"Y'all" - The shitlib's catch phrase - and a sign to disregard their opinion on anything

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Preacher ✝ said:
For the record any time I've used it was purely as part of the cowboy aesthetic of my account.

The increase in use by faggots has sucked the fun out of a nice western word, and that's a shame.

That said, I don't think we should just cede the word to them so easily.
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Preacher (I wish we had a vocative case in this most useless language):

I do not know if you're a southerner IRL even if you play one on TV so to speak.

I speak southern dialect naturally. I say "y'all" in speech, but I wouldn't write it ever on a keyboard. Ya'll is an elision that follows southern phonotactics in speech and thereby makes it simpler to articulate the movements of the mouth in order to make those sounds, but writing it on a keyboard is hard, because the keys that spell it are on opposite sides of the keyboard. This increases the thought it takes to type it, which makes it ergnomically more "costly" than simply something like "you guys" where all the keys are together.

To me as a native southern speaker who uses y'all in speech, it almost never makes sense to say it in text because it's simply easier to type different second person plurals. Fuck, as a latinist, I'd rather just say "vos" even or "vobis" than "y'all" because it's simply easier to type and fuck off pretending to halfway speak latin to you.

Now then, really, in all my speaking on this forum, I've only ever used a second person plural construct once, when I was arguing against gnostics. 2 or 3 guys were talking about that religion, and I had to beat the shit out of that broke ass ideology (and I said "you guys"). But other than that, I can't even think of a time I even used a second person plural on the internet! The reason for this is that logical internet communcations outside of a live feed like a chat are 1:1. Like I'm replying to you alone, preacher. You yourself are replying to OP. Comment chains are directed at individuals. You only ever need to use the second person singular in meaningful communication.

If you're using the second person plural at all, you're being didactic. No real communication on the internet necessitates it. And if you're using a regional dialectic form, you're doing so intentionally for the sake of a style. Like OP says, and like I'd summarize: you're basically imitating a black school teacher.
 
23iwakura23 said:
you're doing so intentionally for the sake of a style
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Explicitly this. my account is a reference to the main character in Pale Rider, a Clint Eastwood western, the profile picture should make that clear enough. Any use of "y'all" was part of that bit which has since been dropped due to a combination of me getting tired of it and the phenomenon being discussed in this thread. Rather than a black school teacher I was imitating a traditional western cowboy aesthetic.

Anyway, because the wild west/cowboy aesthetic is unique to America, and not exclusive to the south as many like to think, I do not consider being a southerner necessary to engage with it. People all over the country should be free to say howdy and wear cowboy hats and cowboy boots if they please, especially the boots since they're really comfortable and not as overt as the hats. That's also why I think its a shame that faggots have tainted "y'all" and why we as a society shouldn't just let them have it.
 
Preacher ✝ said:
Explicitly this. my account is a reference to the main character in Pale Rider, a Clint Eastwood western, the profile picture should make that clear enough. Any use of "y'all" was part of that bit which has since been dropped due to a combination of me getting tired of it and the phenomenon being discussed in this thread. Rather than a black school teacher I was imitating a traditional western cowboy aesthetic.

Anyway, because the wild west/cowboy aesthetic is unique to America, and not exclusive to the south as many like to think, I do not consider being a southerner necessary to engage with it. People all over the country should be free to say howdy and wear cowboy hats and cowboy boots if they please, especially the boots since they're really comfortable and not as overt as the hats. That's also why I think its a shame that faggots have tainted "y'all" and why we as a society shouldn't just let them have it.
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Nah, I totally get that you're the cowboy persona from a film, you've told me that. And I'm not particularly shitting on you if you've ever used "y'all" in a sentence. I'm speaking to the OP's point. But, never the less, I'm speaking to it by speaking in a direct second person singular to you.

I'm speaking to a plural audience, but I'm not speaking in the grammatical sense to them at all. Our conversation by being public speaks to the topic at hand, but I'll never have to say "hey y'all do you get what me and preach are talking about?" No, because that's stupid and not cogent to the format of internet communication.

What I'm saying is that if a person needs to say "y'all", they're doing it for a stylistic purpose, and a didactic purpose that supercedes typical use of internet communication means. They're trying to imitate a "black school teacher" in order to assume a voice of authority in conversation, like OP seems to think.

I don't think I've seen that with you. I don't really think I've seen you use a second person plural construct even, since really it's unnatural to internet communication and you're surely human.
 
Ly Erg said:
Y'all may be annoying when used by online libs but it has somewhat of an excuse when used by people from the south.

People who use "Yikes" however are 100% the type we can expect them to be. An annoying fucking cunt.
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I think the joke here is merely "what is meaningful communication?"

Like I think I illustrated above why its not meaningful, even as a southerner, to ever type "y'all".

Similar with like "yikes". If your whole post is just an expletive, we get it: you disagree. We're in a text format, though. Disagree, but disagree meaningfully and with documentation.

Forums are ticket queues for people lodging problems with social issues.

To me, if I answered a ticket at work with "lol this is useless fuck off, Jim", I'd get fired, even though it's technically correct, because the client legitmately is a retard and needs to have it explained to him verbose for his own documentation so that he doesn't get sued when it all fucks up.

Similarly, "yikes" or some stupid shit like that is the same sort of useless answer. It's like putting "lol because your engineer is a retard" in a ticket reply to a multi-million dollar client. You know there's probably some sentiment behind it that's true, but it doesn't sufficiently answer the question, and doesn't show a professional degree of seriousness to the topic at hand that matters and would seem to demand.
 
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deleuzeon said:
Yep. Obama did this as a way to make himself, a foreign transplant* with an Ivy League pedigree, seem "folksy" and "southern" (same thing with using the word folks all the time). All shitlibs after him are following the pattern. An elitist shitlib always wants to be seen as the underdog populist.

* Whether Hawaii or otherwise.
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His wife utilizes both "Y'all" and "Folks" a lot as well and I can't unhear it now. It drives me nuts.
 
Affectations of speech are very gay. If it's naturally part of your native dialect, then by definition it is not an affectation.
 
Preacher ✝ said:
People all over the country should be free to say howdy and wear cowboy hats and cowboy boots if they please, especially the boots since they're really comfortable and not as overt as the hats. That's also why I think its a shame that faggots have tainted "y'all" and why we as a society shouldn't just let them have it.
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I don't want to live in a world where blue-haired faggots culturally appropriate "howdy" into their speech.
 
Im an east European in ky and I say the y'all with a w before the ll. If I hear a flat yah-ll, youre a fake ass faggot and we recognize you
 
Ly Erg said:
Y'all may be annoying when used by online libs but it has somewhat of an excuse when used by people from the south.

People who use "Yikes" however are 100% the type we can expect them to be. An annoying fucking cunt.
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The infantilization of English online really kicked in around 2008 or so, when you'd start seeing people who should goddamned well have a mature vocabulary start calling things "gross" and saying "yikes" like they were 5 fucking years old.

It annoyed me then, it pisses me off now.

Speak like a fucking adult, or don't speak at all if you wish to be taken seriously.
 
Samuel Fuller said:
The infantilization of English online really kicked in around 2008 or so, when you'd start seeing people who should goddamned well have a mature vocabulary start calling things "gross" and saying "yikes" like they were 5 fucking years old.
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Obama + Reddit.
 
Maybe this thread can be my "y'all in the wild" compilation?

y'all per capita.jpg
nigga proves they can't comprehend per capita
Context: everyone around the world hate Blacks

y'all nigger car crash.jpg
nigga whataboutism
Context: negligent nigga and friends cause car crash
 
23iwakura23 said:
second person plurals.
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This is the only point worth focusing on. While most of the comments on here have focused on the political meaning behind the current use of the word (and I think it can be distilled down to modern leftwing individuals attempting to channel their sassy, inner-black woman when evoking the word "y'all"), the real point of discussion is the necessity in regular conversation of a second-person plural.

And English used to have that, in fact, "you" used to be it. Previously, the second-person singular was "thou/thee/thy." The Brits, who by default must ruin every good thing they have, also ruined the use of "thou" since "you" was used in the respectful case, just as is "vous" instead of "tu" for French. Non-wikipedia source. Long story short: it's suspsect due to people not knowing whether to use "thou" or "you" based on someone's relative social heirarchy, so just chose one and keep it simple. Fun note, "thou" and "you" both end in "ou"!

Lacking a second-person plural is an annoying roadbump in a language that should be able to convey thought at the level which English is capable. Being a native English speaker and having become fluent in a language that does have a second-person plural, I find it to now necessary to employ one in the English language, and the most widely accepted one (that also checks the boxes of a single syllable and single word, as long as you count contractions as single words) is simply: y'all.

Despite my unfavorable position on niggers, kikes, trannies, etc., I will still casually employ "'y'all" in spoken language. One particular example is if exiting a group setting, whether it's friends, co-workers, or a family, I will say without thinking, "See y'all later." There are other situations to, and while meaning can be inferred by the audience as to whether the speaker is addressing them directly (singular) or the crowd as a group (plural), there do exist autists who struggle with that distinction.

So I strongly support the use of it, or any other substitute for the second-person plural, but purely from a linguistics standpoint. And as some people have said, posting it online in discussion will have very few use cases, short of certain multiplayer video games, and I suspect they naturally are attempting to be the Yas Queen negress, as I posited above.

P.S. y'all is niggers
 
I think very few of us genuinely have any problems with using y'all as a way of referring to a group like your example of "see y'all later" Other valid examples "where y'all goin'" "what 'yall doin'" etc

It's just that in Internet discourse, it is used far too often in an antagonistic way (eg examples given in first post). To paraphrase Trump, wokies turned that word into shit.
 
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