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Venus said:
There’s a cow slap fight a brewing!
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Does she really think people care that much? I'm reading the whole thread. The only people who give a shit about stupid GoodReads drama are not the type you should want on your side anyway. She says people wouldn't be able to find her like that's a bad thing. Does she truly think anyone reading this book who would actually care enough to try to find her would ever try to reach out to her for the full story? They'd either go to her Twitter to laugh at her Tweets in silence or they'd go there to pick on her. Also, Paige, get over yourself. Even if they spelled your name correctly, do you know how many women named 'Ashleigh' there are? I know at least one IRL who spells her name exactly like that. Paige is even more common. What makes you think they could find you? If anyone knew your surname, Twitter trolls would be the least of your issues.
 
Also legally, I don't believe authors are allowed to name real people they know portraying the actual event(s) they partook in in their books without permission (memoirs may be an exception). Kathleen had to take liberties in order to avoid a potential lawsuit given the contents of this book from the looks of it.
 
If I recall correctly, for any legal action to be taken the other person needs to be making false claims about you.
 
Save the Loli said:
Probably because their precious characters keep getting called out for being Mary Sues. I never once heard about the term Mary Sue being sexist until some exceptional thinkpiece article shilling for Disney Star Wars said that calling Rey a Mary Sue was proof of sexism. These people are incapable of taking responsibility for anything, and that includes their shit writing. Their only response is to blame it all on conspiracies of racists and sexists and what not.
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I kinda have a guess on why this often affects female characters rather than male ones (with certain exceptions, like Wesley Crusher). It's because women are more likely to insert themselves in stories. For what I've seen myself, boys want to be Batman or Superman, while girls want to be Batman's girlfriend. I definitely need to read more about this, but I think that's basically the problem. Now, these girls who have been receiving constant feminist propaganda dont' want to be Batman's gf, but his aid or the ones that simply solves all his problems and save the day, but the feeling behind it it's the same. They portray THEMSELVES in the story, while boys want to be the archetype. If I had the chance, I'd like to ask Peterson about this question.


Kari Kamiya said:
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(Fuck, I hate the present tense.)
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Present tense (or present overall) is quite hard to write and doesn't fit all genres. I'd recommend it for a story about a detective or a journalist because the plot in these is about the person discovering things and the reader can relate. For the boring, blank drama they write, ordinary past is good.
 
How I imagine everyone who likes it when one of these books gets canceled:

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Venus said:
Here’s a link to the NB book preview: https://books.google.ca/books/about...=frontcover&source=kp_read_button&redir_esc=y

Good god what a boring introduction.
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Good God that's clunky.

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This could easily be two sentences. Commas don't make run-on sentences proper paragraphs, I hate seeing this in published books.

EDIT 2: See, here it is again with the run-on sentence paragraph:
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Why is this acceptable, again? I was taught in English that a paragraph (at least in essays) consist of at least three sentences. Why do they then pull this shit in actual books? It just looks so tacky. Not every single narrated line needs its own paragraph.
 
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Tasty Tatty said:
I kinda have a guess on why this often affects female characters rather than male ones (with certain exceptions, like Wesley Crusher). It's because women are more likely to insert themselves in stories. For what I've seen myself, boys want to be Batman or Superman, while girls want to be Batman's girlfriend. I definitely need to read more about this, but I think that's basically the problem. Now, these girls who have been receiving constant feminist propaganda dont' want to be Batman's gf, but his aid or the ones that simply solves all his problems and save the day, but the feeling behind it it's the same. They portray THEMSELVES in the story, while boys want to be the archetype. If I had the chance, I'd like to ask Peterson about this question.
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I dunno dude. Women are into some weird fucking shit. It takes about thirty seconds to be off the atlas when it comes to interacting with a female writer in my experience. While they are on a person's back in the story mostly, a bunch of times they're all shattered between the characters. Reading book reviews fucking sucks for this exact reason sometimes. I don't think this is a fucked up human trait limited to only one gender.
 
I need to get out of editor mode, but what the fuck is this?
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"Now that's a woman." Wh-what? Who says that while in the middle of a movie, especially during the shower scene and while his wife's sitting right by him? I was going to brush off the dialogue because it's pretty mundane but what you expect in a YA first-person POV novel, but what this is exceptionally bad.
 
Kari Kamiya said:
I need to get out of editor mode, but what the fuck is this?
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"Now that's a woman." Wh-what? Who says that while in the middle of a movie, especially during the shower scene and while his wife's sitting right by him? I was going to brush off the dialogue because it's pretty mundane but what you expect in a YA first-person POV novel, but what this is exceptionally bad.
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Well, that made me ill instantly.

She's basically associating her Dad's opinion of a "real woman" while noticing he's eating something she puts in way too much detail. This is the creation of a fetish, being put into words. You should get the fuck off this site before its too late dude if this is the kind of stuff that keeps you up at night.
 
Kari Kamiya said:
I need to get out of editor mode, but what the fuck is this?
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"Now that's a woman." Wh-what? Who says that while in the middle of a movie, especially during the shower scene and while his wife's sitting right by him? I was going to brush off the dialogue because it's pretty mundane but what you expect in a YA first-person POV novel, but what this is exceptionally bad.
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I could maybe excuse the father talking like that if the story took place in 1929, not 2019, since mindsets like that did exist. I’m aware that the author is trying to make the father look as huge of an asshole as possible, but this is going into comical villain territory (which isn’t really a good thing unless you’re specifically writing a comedy novel- but even then this comes off as incredibly cringe inducing).

This is probably the first book I dropped within five pages- which is saying a lot because I’ve forced myself through many terrible books.
 
Kari Kamiya said:
I need to get out of editor mode, but what the fuck is this?
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"Now that's a woman." Wh-what? Who says that while in the middle of a movie, especially during the shower scene and while his wife's sitting right by him? I was going to brush off the dialogue because it's pretty mundane but what you expect in a YA first-person POV novel, but what this is exceptionally bad.
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The author wants us to dislike the dad but is too lazy to actually develop an antagonist, so they're tacking on cartoony levels of misogyny and calling it a day. I'm going to assume he's one of many straw-men that are found in this book.
 
Venus said:
Here’s a link to the NB book preview: https://books.google.ca/books/about...=frontcover&source=kp_read_button&redir_esc=y

Good god what a boring introduction.
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Dear Lord, it's so boring. Nobody cares about dinner table talk. If it's not relevant to the story (or can be told in a less boring way), it can go. The only thing really relevant in the first few pages is that he's sick and that he's now Art Club president. Both of those things could have been discussed later. It just feels like useless exposition here.

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If she's muttering, it's to herself. That last part was completely redundant.

It's clear the Dad is the 'villain' and the mother is the superior parent. You don't have to be so obvious, Deaver.

I got to somewhere in chapter 3, because I hate myself.
 
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Did the author just have a minority checklist they were going off of? This is so hamfisted. Mariam has no personality, of course. They're just in the book so the author can show how not-islamophobic they are. I keep reading this book, but I still don't know what nonbinary is supposed to mean, which is kind of amazing since that's what the whole book is about. I assume that it's like being trans, but the character doesn't seem to have Dysphoria. When the character does talk about their body, it's a meaningless word salad like this:
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Like, what is that even supposed to mean?
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Gender Dysphoria has nothing to do with acne or good hair, obviously. And this is all the character talks about. He isn't uncomfortable with his male features at all, nor does he express a desire to dress more femininely. So according to this book, all nonbinary means is "I wanna be called they, while I continue to look and act like a boy and have no discomfort from doing so."

This book feels like reading a collection of Tumblr posts instead of an actual narrative. Nobody seems to be developing in any meaningful way, probably because they didn't have personalities to start with. Everyone is either perfect or an evil strawman, there is no in-between. It boggles my mind that this got published. There are tons of LGBT people who can write a compelling story. Publishers don't need to throw money at the first one to come along.
 
Venus said:
Here’s a link to the NB book preview: https://books.google.ca/books/about...=frontcover&source=kp_read_button&redir_esc=y

Good god what a boring introduction.
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Reading through the first chapter, and it feels like the setup for a horror movie. It's like the scene with the parents in Rampage, where they're making awkward small talk and the tension just keeps building as you wait for the other shoe to drop.

The actual reveal is somehow less impactful than the beyond cliche coming out scene, which is impressive after a fashion. And of course getting thrown out of the house and the subsequent pity party for our poor little POV character.
 
Krokodil Overdose said:
Reading through the first chapter, and it feels like the setup for a horror movie. It's like the scene with the parents in Rampage, where they're making awkward small talk and the tension just keeps building as you wait for the other shoe to drop.

The actual reveal is somehow less impactful than the beyond cliche coming out scene, which is impressive after a fashion. And of course getting thrown out of the house and the subsequent pity party for our poor little POV character.
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I mean, how many parents these days would just throw their kid out of the house because they refused to identify as a gender without coming under a lot of scrutiny?

What would have been more believable is if the dad just laughs it off as a cringe inducing phase- which is the general reaction people have to the non binary label people place onto themselves.
 
Piga Dgrifm said:
The author wants us to dislike the dad but is too lazy to actually develop an antagonist, so they're tacking on cartoony levels of misogyny and calling it a day. I'm going to assume he's one of many straw-men that are found in this book.
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I interpreted it as something Al Bundy would say, so underdog anti-hero circa 1990's. Sometimes these books are set in the author's youth, is this YA fiction actually a sloppy autobiography in disguise? :story:
 
Most SJW publications have a lot of chatting to carry their plots because they're unable to craft a good story and develop it. It's only characters talking and talking AND TALKING about their days and grievances. The villains are often people who say "inconvenient" things rather than people whose actions are meant to be antagonist.

e.g. Marvel comics.
 
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