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If your opinion is different from theirs, if you tell them something that they weren't expecting, if you try to correct them, if you have some new information that they haven't heard of before or some new argument for them to consider, if you have a new idea that wasn't already on the socially-approved list of ideas, then they cannot process it logically.
They're not curious to learn more and figure it out. They do not have any sort of an adult response to it. They just get straight-up mad at you.
It really seems to be something bizarre, related to this:
Main Character Syndrome really should be studied more, though I think we have a decent answer in the form of "literacy interpretation" that we were taught in schools. Asking "What did Shakespeare mean by the door being red?" instead of just letting the door be red because it happens to be fucking red
Not only with people thinking nothing will happen to them because they are "main characters", but also because they cannot be told "no" or "see they are wrong.
I really want to do the good-faith, endlessly-gracious thing and say that "all sides have people who are like this, and it's just an emotional trap that we all have to be vigilant about not falling into ourselves..."
But, fuck it, this pattern applies almost exclusively to people on the Left. It's getting increasingly more common among them.
I mean, I have seen it with what one may call "Neo-nazis" & such (Groypers, more like it) behaving in such retarded fashion. And yet, this does seem to be exclusive to people to "shitlibs", indeed.
Two things:
1. She used the word "degeneracy" in a title, which is basically like pouring a bucket of blood in a pool which would eventually attract breadtube sharks
2. This basically follows one but basicly what she criticizes what Tumblr helped spawn. Aka fanfiction and smut. Obviously fandom spaces and the sjw crowd are two heavily overlapping circles and there are those who are going to be hyper defensive over their "feminist" smut.

But it's mostly 1, no one would care otherwise.
It feels like a "don't touch my drugs!" scenario. With porn and smut being what gets these degenerates off, and she is basically pointing to a shady looking neighbourhood, and this attracts the ire of unsavoury types.
 
I saw Hilary uploaded a new video a couple weeks ago that I hadn't noticed (looks like it's about AI writing), but before I watch that one, I saw this:

It sounds like the rabbithole of "sensitivity readers" has gone deeper than I thought. This shit's been around in colleges and universities before it became more open in publishing houses.

Anyhoo, some comments:
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Lol guess I'mma be double-posting, saying I'm just now starting Hilary's newer video on AI, and it starts with a text quote from Uncle Ted.

#OneOfUs
 
My local Barnes and Noble has expanded the ya romance section and the bookslop is now leaking into the other sections. It’s the same repetitive smut stories with the same psuedo art-nouveau style or fanart tier art on the covers. Children have to go walk through all of that to get to the back of the store. This is why reading, especially women reading, is now seen as a joke because people now automatically think they are reading crap like this first and foremost.
 
My local Barnes and Noble has expanded the ya romance section and the bookslop is now leaking into the other sections. It’s the same repetitive smut stories with the same psuedo art-nouveau style or fanart tier art on the covers. Children have to go walk through all of that to get to the back of the store. This is why reading, especially women reading, is now seen as a joke because people now automatically think they are reading crap like this first and foremost.
On the topic of that "pseudo art-nouveau style or fanart tier art", really, what is that style? A pastel palette similar to Corporate Memphis but with realistic proportions and skin tones, cartoony and superficially says "child friendly" but actually signals at bare minimum some sort of smut, oftentimes homosexual or otherwise "queer"... It's so odd to see this manifest in the mainstream so suddenly, so consistently, within the last couple of years, a rapid metastasization from some literary niche I'd have rather stayed private.
 
I can't really picture what you're referencing.
Do you have any examples?
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Perhaps the quoted description refers to a different but related trend in book cover art than what I believed it to be gesturing towards, but there's a certain style that looks straight out of Tumblr which I think my description does do justice to.

I found all of these examples by looking at some nearby libraries and searching for A/YA books with "lgbtq" / "queer" / "lesbian" / "gay" in the subject headings, and this is just a smattering.
 

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On the topic of that "pseudo art-nouveau style or fanart tier art", really, what is that style? A pastel palette similar to Corporate Memphis but with realistic proportions and skin tones, cartoony and superficially says "child friendly" but actually signals at bare minimum some sort of smut, oftentimes homosexual or otherwise "queer"... It's so odd to see this manifest in the mainstream so suddenly, so consistently, within the last couple of years, a rapid metastasization from some literary niche I'd have rather stayed private.
"Instagrammable" with hints of ugly Tumblr art.
 
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Perhaps the quoted description refers to a different but related trend in book cover art than what I believed it to be gesturing towards, but there's a certain style that looks straight out of Tumblr which I think my description does do justice to.

I found all of these examples by looking at some nearby libraries and searching for A/YA books with "lgbtq" / "queer" / "lesbian" / "gay" in the subject headings, and this is just a smattering.
This doesn't look at all like pseudo art nouveau. It looks like the same slop from 2010 minus flowers and shit
 
I saw Hilary uploaded a new video a couple weeks ago that I hadn't noticed (looks like it's about AI writing), but before I watch that one, I saw this:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=9XqO34RGn4A
Shame it came from the same website that has Why Antizionism is Antisemitism a week earlier. Just terrible logic there. Censorship is only good when done for/by Israel.

Better critics of MFAs by this dysgenic minor poet Dan Scheider.

Better critics of sensitivity readers was provided 2 years ago by The Guardian.

Publishers are cynically using ‘sensitivity readers’ to protect their bottom lines​

Zoe Dubno

As books become intellectual property assets, publishers become asset managers trying to future-proof their toxic investments
 
I looked up "romantasy" to just see what sort of covers google would show me.

There are quite a few of them with covers that are using vaguely turn-of-the-century or art nouveau aesthetics. Not in an authentic way, in that their book is actually about anything that would have historically been associated with art nouveau, or anything that would have been concurrent with the style's heyday. They just want to use the style to confer a bit of its charm and elegance to their own book. It's just marketing.

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To take just one example, the font for the Lightlark series titles seems to be doing this. You could imagine the title on a poster for an theater a hundred years ago being done in a big, expressive font like that, all slanted and curving and ornamental. Or maybe an advertisement for a circus. I'm probably drifting away from the borders of "art nouveau" now, but this feels like it's still somewhere in the neighborhood.
The ornamental frame around the edges made by the details in the corners seems like part of this aesthetic, too... but at some point the connection is vague enough that you could just as easily connect it to a dozen other styles.

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Still, there are a lot of ornamental frame designs out there, and some of them seem closer to art nouveau than others.

Also, the point of art nouveau (to today's audience) is to evoke that old turn-of-the-century world. It's to signal that your setting is like theirs—a place caught between the peace, romance, and wistfulness of an old world of light and nature and thin fabrics and soft watercolors, and optimism for a harsh, gleaming new world of gold and chrome and iron, being reshaped by early industrialization, with trains and skyscrapers and other man-made wonders.
I know enough about the Lightlark series to know that it has absolutely nothing to do with that.
I bet that the disconnect is that a lot of current writers and publishers genuinely don't even know about the world that art nouveau comes from, and what they're evoking by using it. I bet that they just think that it looks cool.


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Juniper & Thorn seems like a good example of proper art nouveau aesthetics. It's not just a vague collection of art nouveau elements that seem pretty.
The aesthetic still feels off and out-of-place. It's such an unusual and deliberate choice that it makes you suspicious of why the author or publisher picked it.
Looking up the description of the story, art nouveau actually seems like a really good choice. Google says that it's a fairytale retelling in a setting where "magic and industry collide" or something. But until a reader knows that, I feel like the art style is going to seem really odd. Maybe that's just me.
If I saw this cover in a store, it wouldn't make me want to pick it up myself, but I definitely appreciate it as an art piece just taking it by itself now. I think it looks a lot better than the other books that only go part of the way with a few art nouveau elements.

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The Bridge Kingdom series leapt out to me as a cross between art nouveau and art deco, which are similar enough that I think people confuse them for one another. Art nouveau is a park in Paris just before the Great War. Art deco is the monument at the Hoover Dam.
Honestly, setting aside the subject matter on the covers, I really like this art style. I would hate to learn that it's being associated with romantasy now.
 
The Bridge Kingdom
Is your most basic no-magic no-fantastical elements secondary world series. Each two books is a separate romance in the same setting. The first book actually has a fantastic introduction but it goes downhill and the characters turn annoying and stupid and predictable. It has more in common with historical romance than with fantasy.

Eta: these are also the updated covers from when Jensen went trad pub. The originals are pretty meh but they communicate what the book is about better :

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Haven't read it yet, but this book and Ava Reid in general get "this book isn't actually romantasy 🙄" complaints a lot. Usually that means it's not full of the normal generic tropes or writing straight from ao3/Wattpad.
 
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It’s the same repetitive smut stories with the same psuedo art-nouveau style or fanart tier art on the covers.
This:
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Its flat, little shading, and less detailed bright background makes it worse.

I can't really picture what you're referencing.
Do you have any examples?
Sorry I’m late, but stuff like referencing this 19th century style of decorative borders, flowery brocades, and whiplash lines, but done poorly that it looks ai:

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This is what it looks like ideally:

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Man I love me some mucha 🤤



Another pet peeve is how classic books covers have been updated and while they don’t look bad per se they blend into each other and lose uniqueness

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