Xbox Mega FTC leak catastrophe mega thread

[el bandito loco]

Playing mobile games doesn't exclude from playing games on other platforms, only fanboys believe of platform loyalism that way.

And you admit to use your non-Japanese friend viewing things from the workplace/transits as a frame of reference that (esp. home) consoles are dead there, which is silly.
Despite we have Famitsu & Media Creates hard data to prove console gaming still remains as popular amongst the Japanese populace as things were in the 2000's, if not considerably stronger than before thanks to digital distribution. It's a combination of game development taking longer the more powerful the hardware is (to aim for high fidelity graphics), large companies (such as Squeenix) making retarded decisions and finally Playstation currently dying over there, thus prompting to an undergoing massive industrial shift (when PS used to be the default turf of JP third-parties for three decades) where the main platforms these days are Nintendo Switch, PC and mobile.

And any proper research in Japanese can tell anyone there has been a large number of role-playing console games in each generation since the 7th one, divided between portable and home consoles.

I absolutely never said console gaming is dead there I just meant that basically everyone in Japan play's phone games which obviously makes it a bigger target market. I also never said they ONLY play those I made a point to mention I assume that being bigger is also why handhelds were bigger there than the usa. I just agreed it absolutely is true based on what I know the mobile game market is bigger than the console market. which is true everywhere just by fact more people have phones w candy crush they fuck around on then homes have consoles. I am not putting a dog in any fight and I never once mentioned home consoles with my own frame of reference I was just agreeing that to my knowledge the Japanese audience is very mobile focused and why that makes sense to me. I never mentioned the amount of RPGs releasing in the market either. I have to assume a lot of the shit on phones probably is because its a popular genre there. Any proper research into anything would tell you that a higher player base will mean higher players in a specific target system regardless of the other ones they have or use. my point wasn't any of that retarded shit, just that more people use mobile games there so its likely more people treat that as more of their primary bc they use it more and their actual game consoles aren't their primary focus. I mean fuck, I own a blu ray player but watch most movies from downloads that doesn't mean I don't own and use a br device. just its not a daily driver as I said

 

[Mike Matei's Penis]

Lol, bullshit. Keep telling yourselves that somehow buying a new console is somehow less wasteful than buying discs, consoomers.

Can you explain this? (I don't play AAA games because my PC is too shit.) Can't you mute annoying wankers on voice chat any more?

Seeing as this feature is even available on multiplayer phone games, that is rather exceptional of MS.

An old joke among nerds back in the day was, "Microsoft is the only company ever named after the state of the founder's penis."

As it was then, so it is now.

You still can, more showing that in the old days that was Microsoft's sanctioned and approved way of dealing with "trolls", just mute them and move on. New Xbox rules are a whole other ballgame where all that is recorded is sent to AI moderation (at least, I know CoD is going forward with AI moderation. Think PS5 has it with that mic on the controller too.)

According to this pic calling someone a troon is 3x worse than actually cheating in a game.

 

[Kheapathic]

You still can, more showing that in the old days that was Microsoft's sanctioned and approved way of dealing with "trolls", just mute them and move on. New Xbox rules are a whole other ballgame where all that is recorded is sent to AI moderation (at least, I know CoD is going forward with AI moderation. Think PS5 has it with that mic on the controller too.)

According to this pic calling someone a troon is 3x worse than actually cheating in a game.

Sony has the fucking ADL whispering in their ear.

https://www.blacklistednews.com/article/78263/after-partnering-with-adl-playstation-releases-update-to-spy-on-users-voice-chat-for.html

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

I have a similar prediction, and I also suspect that they're going to prune away basic shit that used to be something that every character could do and turn them into perks, much like Starfield did with stealth. Crouching for stealth and pickpocketing won't even be available unless you pick the requisite "sticky fingers" perk, or whatever. Same goes for being able to dual wield, they'll almost certainly make that into something you can only do if you pick the "dual wield one handed" perk.

They will make it so that nobody "accidentally" stumbles onto a mechanic that isn't just clicking M1 to hit the bad guy and potentially gets scared off by even the slightest hint of complexity. It'll be as retard-proof as Emil can make it, all for the sake of that "keep it simple, stupid" mantra he clings to.

COD did this with infinite sprinting, something that was/is a staple in most FPS games. take away skills and resell them as perks/points/dlc.

 

[LiquidKid]

Phil Spencer is such a sleazy scumbag, and these emails display that perfectly.
Why do people pretend that he’s some great head for Xbox? He’s literally the Bob Iger of Xbox. “Buy stuff to be relevant rather than make our own.”
And not a single project has really been successful under Spencer. Starfield is doing well, but they purchased that midway, they didn’t develop it.

I’m no Nintendo fanboy, but I hope they never see Nintendo come close to them just to spite Spencer. Of course, seeing as Nintendo products actually make money, I don’t see them ever have that opportunity. Same thing for Valve.

 

[CaptainAutism69]

You misunderstood what I said, if you read the rest you would see that I agree with you, maybe I worded it poorly. I said its retarted that they are shilling it like its a new thing when the 360 HAD swappable AA batteries, but then they removed them with the Xbone.

I have two xbone controllers, and they both have swappable AA's...but now I use rechargable packs

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

And not a single project has really been successful under Spencer

Spencer was in charge of Xbox division and was the one who greenlit the Xbone. Yet it was Don Mattrick who took for fall as he was somehow a worse suit than spencer.

Spencer should have been fired the second he walked on stage wearing a 'craig' t-shirt. Joking about a failure that franchise fans were disgusted about, should have sent alarm bells to MS that he wasn't taking his duties, or the success of their flagship franchise, seriously enough.

 

[LiquidKid]

Spencer was in charge of Xbox division and was the one who greenlit the Xbone. Yet it was Don Mattrick who took for fall as he was somehow a worse suit than spencer.

Spencer should have been fired the second he walked on stage wearing a 'craig' t-shirt. Joking about a failure that franchise fans were disgusted about, should have sent alarm bells to MS that he wasn't taking his duties, or the success of their flagship franchise, seriously enough.

Over the years I’ve had manny discussions and debates about Mattrick vs Spencer, and to use the Disney analogy again, it’s very much a Eisner vs Iger situation.

Mattrick new how to ship product, get things made on time, and see results, but he was an insufferable douche bag on stage. The Xbone reveal event easily painted him as the most punchable person in a room full of extremely punchable people.
Phil on the other hand is the dude walking on stage in a zip up sweater and a t-shirt. He portrays himself as a “casual bro who totally gets it.” And I think the mere optics of a man who wasn’t Mattrick did more for him than any of the plans he made.

People praise gamepass, and it’s a neat idea for sure, but outside of Xbox owned games, everything on there is several years out of date and the majority of people already played them. And it’s done nothing but lose money.

Everything else under Spencer has just been failure after failure.

Just look at Halo. Yes, Combat Evolved anniversary was a train wreck that Mattrick launched, but Master Chief collection is still a train wreck that Spencer launched. As was Halo 5, as was infinite. The list of other games can go on and on, but it’s really incredible how unsuccessful Spencer has been.

Xbox has more studios than Nintendo and Sony, but they ship significantly less games than either, and the games they do ship lack all cultural relevance.

I’m reminded a lot of when Sega bought Atlus in 2013. It was a bizarre purchase no one really understood. But Sega handled it right. They upfront said “we bought them for Persona” and the same day they announced Persona 5 and they shipped it 2 years later(3 if you count the international release). Microsoft never announces plans for the studios they buy. The only thing we knew about Bethesda’s future was the games Bethesda already had announced they were making.

It’s like Phil Spencer just hopes he can eventually land on another Minecraft sized purchase.

Meanwhile Sony launches stuff like god of war to tens of millions of units and Nintendo just launched one of their biggest games of all time a few months ago and their current console may end up beating PS2’s record.

The valve part is even sillier. Steam’s return policy alone makes it something Microsoft could never manage, and seeing as unlike epic they’re forced to sell their games on steam because no one uses the Microsoft store, it’s clear Valve curbstomps their Pc releases.

I really do think Spencer needs to be replaced. Of course, much like Iger, his replacement will likely be an even bigger retard than he is and people will immediately go to begging for him to return

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

Mattrick new how to ship product, get things made on time, and see results, but he was an insufferable douche bag on stage. The Xbone reveal event easily painted him as the most punchable person in a room full of extremely punchable people.
Phil on the other hand is the dude walking on stage in a zip up sweater and a t-shirt. He portrays himself as a “casual bro who totally gets it.” And I think the mere optics of a man who wasn’t Mattrick did more for him than any of the plans he made.

I hated Mattrick and I blamed him for retarded ideas like the Xbox slim/elite and Kinect, when he should have been launching a new console to crush Sony before they could get back on their feet with ps3, which they did, and sold more than Xbox while having enough good will to see the PS4 tank the Xbone.

I do wonder how many of Mattricks decisions were his? For all his faults, I can't knock the guy for his follow through. He had an idea, no matter how retarded, and sold it. He was a suit who knew he was a suit and while his efforts to try and be likable were laughably fake, he wasn't hateable. Yeah, you wanted to punch the guy for being a smarmy twat, but I believe he enjoyed the xbox brand. He was just misguided on what xbox was/should have been.

That said, Spencer is leagues worse than Mattrick, a guy so bad at PR that he created the "we have a console for people who X" meme and launched the worst, most-poorly received piece of electronics in our time; the xbox one. Yet, Spencer is worse than that guy.

People praise gamepass, and it’s a neat idea for sure, but outside of Xbox owned games, everything on there is several years out of date and the majority of people already played them. And it’s done nothing but lose money.

Gamepass is a neat idea for people who hate your platform. I have gamepass and 1x. I play the old games and the odd niche titles that appear now and then. Some are genuinely fantastic titles; Operencia the stolen sun, battlechasers and Chained Echos (best 2d/sprite/rpg i've ever played, even better than Shining force), but I hate xbox.

I used to be a massive fan, but there's no way I'm buying their games. I know gamepass costs them money and I do the GP family share with my brother who got 3 years for £3. Piracy is more expensive.

So now I use GP to access 'free' games. 90% are shite, 9% are playable and 1% are excellent. GP is a missed opportunity though and a PR nightmare. When GP fails, and all subscription services say it will, MS can't go back to selling games how they normally do. They should sell games traditionally and use GP as an xboxarcade indy/B-tier showcase. two lots of revenue instead of one. But, Spencer is beyond retarded.

Xbox has more studios than Nintendo and Sony, but they ship significantly less games than either, and the games they do ship lack all cultural relevance.

To think that Microsoft owns the studios that made some of gaming greatest, genre defining games; Doom, Quake, Fallout, BG, Halo (OG Halo was a phenomenon) and they have done less than fucking zero with these franchises and in most cases killed them.

Their strategy is nonsense. They don't know talent and they let good talent and good franchises die. Where's wasteland 4? A conker remake? Viva Pinata sequel? And to think they will soon own Diablo, COD and Overwatch? Why? Doom, Halo and CoD all competing for the same space is pencils-up-nose, wubble, levels of retarded.

 

[BananaSplit²]

I absolutely never said console gaming is dead there I just meant that basically everyone in Japan play's phone games which obviously makes it a bigger target market. I also never said they ONLY play those I made a point to mention I assume that being bigger is also why handhelds were bigger there than the usa. I just agreed it absolutely is true based on what I know the mobile game market is bigger than the console market. which is true everywhere just by fact more people have phones w candy crush they fuck around on then homes have consoles. I am not putting a dog in any fight and I never once mentioned home consoles with my own frame of reference I was just agreeing that to my knowledge the Japanese audience is very mobile focused and why that makes sense to me

We have Nintendo Switch games dominating japanese record retail sales tracked back as far from the 80's (the yearly ratio of total retail sales by amount of games remain more or less the same throughout the decades too - and this is not counting digital sales), and it's been confirmed that Japan has become the fastest-growing PC market in the span of half a decade during a conference talk at the TGS 2023.

This whole western coping mechanism & exaggerated caricature of "Japanese consumers are obsessed with phone gacha games (and not interested to play REAL games)" no longer has any leg to stand on. Again, there were several more factors to take account but I guess mobile was an easy scapegoat.

 

[LiquidKid]

That said, Spencer is leagues worse than Mattrick, a guy so bad at PR that he created the "we have a console for people who X" meme and launched the worst, most-poorly received piece of electronics in our time; the xbox one. Yet, Spencer is worse than that guy

It’s also worth pointing out that if you check news headlines from literally any year since Spencer has taken charge, he’s had to say “X failed” or “y was a mistake”
It’s like the dude can’t go 6 months without having to take an L on something.

Microsoft owns a lot of excellent IPs and we never see anything from them. I don’t even know what the majority of their studios do, because they sure as hell aren’t launching games.

 

[Beavis]

You can theoretically have good thermals with that design but Apple bungled their thermals like always. I assume this will be the same.

With Apple silicon they can now do wacky designs like the trash can and not have to worry about thermals.

What I’m saying is bring back the mac cube!

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

If/When Microsoft bow out of the console race, which American tech giant will/should take their place?

Musk
Apple
Disney
Amazon
Google

Take your pic

 

[Mikoyan]

If/When Microsoft bow out of the console race, which American tech giant will/should take their place?

Musk
Apple
Disney
Amazon
Google

Take your pic

None of the big techs would do it, they're all in on 'cloud gaming'. Apple might, but Iiii dunno. They'd probably go the Nintendo route of making do with absolutely mid hardware.

 

[LiquidKid]

With Apple silicon they can now do wacky designs like the trash can and not have to worry about thermals.

What I’m saying is bring back the mac cube!

The G4 cube only existed because Jobs was bitter that nobody bought the NeXt cube. 90’s era Steve Jobs was obsessed with cubes, which is also why the main apple store in New York is a giant cube

If/When Microsoft bow out of the console race, which American tech giant will/should take their place?

Musk
Apple
Disney
Amazon
Google

Take your pic

The Console market is dead due to how common pc gaming is now. Google failed with stadia and Amazon has their streaming service. Apple has Apple Arcade so no console for them, and Disney seems to avoid all video games. Musk could do it, but I doubt he wants to

 

[Swingletonthesimpleton]

So if the leak is still accurate and the old leaks of them using unreal engine too is real, and the running theory is that they'll be doing some kind of dual engine thing for an oblivion remake... that means that bethesda will not only be doing something with 2 engines.

but they'll also be using an engine they didn't make when they can barely use their own

dear god in heaven

 

[Epoch]

So if the leak is still accurate and the old leaks of them using unreal engine too is real, and the running theory is that they'll be doing some kind of dual engine thing for an oblivion remake... that means that bethesda will not only be doing something with 2 engines.

but they'll also be using an engine they didn't make when they can barely use their own

dear god in heaven

I don't know why people think Bethesda are the ones handling these remasters. They are always outsourced, and the prior leak said it was Virtuos doing Oblivion.

If/When Microsoft bow out of the console race, which American tech giant will/should take their place?

Valve

 

[Swingletonthesimpleton]

Virtuos

That's even worse.

 

[Raging Capybara]

Valve

Steam deck is a computer, not a console.

 

[Epoch]

Steam deck is a computer, not a console.

Exactly