WWE Champions General - Despite his claims, DSP is still spending thousands of dollars on the WWE Champions mobile game

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Rainyday Hedge Fund said:
Gamblers always think they can better their situation or come out of a hole if they play just a little longer.
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I know it's not an original observation, but still ...
Gamblers might actually win back their losses. This stuff? It's impossible. It's a pure money sink with no way to cash out. Nobody has been told they can cash out.
But it goes on, and it's just dumbfounding to me. Can you imagine writing a character with a Gacha addiction and trying to make it credible?
 
RockHawk said:
Same as any other gambling addict. He knows he's spent a lot. But just as long as he doesn't see a hard number he can convince himself that it isn't that bad and he's still in control.
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Open offer to Dave: Gimme your statements and I'll add a sheet to the tips tracker to track your gacha spending for you free of charge! 🤓👍


Or maybe if you ever actually came to terms with how much money you've burned on a mobile game you'd lose what little remained of your sanity?
 
DarkScrubPhil said:
I really don't see how anyone can reasonably say that DownfromtheRafters is not DSP at this point.
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No one can.

The one thing that just can't ever be disproven by anyone (including Phil) is that he had a Discord account that had several posts on some WWE Champions servers just some time before this thread was created.

@We Are The Witches posted about it some time ago, a very organized post showing how Phil's account was tagged by users in those servers, even though the account had already been deleted by the time the screenshots were taken.

That was the smoking gun. I don't see how there's any need for any other absolute proof. Seriously, there's literally no explanation for that other than "Phil both owned the account, and had it hacked at the same time, but also was the one who chose to delete it", which would only make sense to a Derich.
 
DZoomer said:
No one can.

The one thing that just can't ever be disproven by anyone (including Phil) is that he had a Discord account that had several posts on some WWE Champions servers just some time before this thread was created.

@We Are The Witches posted about it some time ago, a very organized post showing how Phil's account was tagged by users in those servers, even though the account had already been deleted by the time the screenshots were taken.

That was the smoking gun. I don't see how there's any need for any other absolute proof. Seriously, there's literally no explanation for that other than "Phil both owned the account, and had it hacked at the same time, but also was the one who chose to delete it", which would only make sense to a Derich.
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Hey whoa, people accused him once of hiring an escort and it turned out to be fake and it was those dirty detractors that were involved with it (forget the part where it was KF that debunked and ratted out the fake). That means everything detractors say is just a made up lie, any mature adult could see that they spent meticulous amounts of time and energy to doctor those images because they are mentally deranged.
 
I don't know if anyone has mentioned this, but Scopely made it possible to play the game in browser with the Scopely ID thing. He doesn't even need his phone to play anymore.
 
DiabeticSP said:
I assume Phil just puts money into a bank account and whales it dry, telling himself its 'fun' money so not hurting anything while refusing to think about how he whaled away 5+ xboxes.
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You think the money ever hits his bank account? It surely goes right from Paypal to Scopely.
 
Gramh said:
Hey whoa, people accused him once of hiring an escort and it turned out to be fake and it was those dirty detractors that were involved with it (forget the part where it was KF that debunked and ratted out the fake). That means everything detractors say is just a made up lie, any mature adult could see that they spent meticulous amounts of time and energy to doctor those images because they are mentally deranged.
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Except DSP really did hire an escort. That's what made it so funny when we discovered a fake escort at the exact same time.

There's really no denying DSP flew Kat 2000 miles for the "girlfriend experience.". If DSP didn't sleep with Kat at the time, that just makes it even funnier.
 
Salubrious said:
Except DSP really did hire an escort. That's what made it so funny when we discovered a fake escort at the exact same time.

There's really no denying DSP flew Kat 2000 miles for the "girlfriend experience.". If DSP didn't sleep with Kat at the time, that just makes it even funnier.
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Yeah, but Phail didn't get the "girlfriend experience", more like the roommate experience.

Then again, he does spend a lot of time in that "office" that is more like a closet, so...
 
I do think DSP sometimes gets a thrill out of lying, just like what the "I'm good at lying" meme shows, but it's not a joke, he might even take pride on it as if he were in control of something. I don't know how many remember when everyone guessed that his tips goal for some event was a red vest (and a dark one), but apparently they were completely wrong because "he thought" he bought an orange-ish one. It was reminiscing of the Jasper situation, an example of his level of decency.

I also think he applies the concept that in order to deceive more convincingly sometimes you must believe your own lies, but only while talking on camera, he knows exactly what he's doing.

If anyone missed some info, not one but multiple of his mods have confirmed that it's him based on his now deleted Discord account, not even mentioning all the other evidence. The troll theory fails from every single angle, it already has been discussed in detail. What surprises me is the attitude of some of his mods that know the truth but decided to let it slide, and ones that just don't get it like Madara.

Imagine letting someone blatantly lie to your face and all your friends in chat just so that you can keep the green sword (now it's a wrench). If it was for me every bit of data in the #4058 mod chat would've been documented and posted a long time ago, who knows how much nonsense was in that old server. People acted too late, otherwise this would've been over and him feigning distress would be clear to anyone that can put 2 and 2 together.

Just to end with this, if you think about it, the "conspiracy theory" is what DSP wants everyone to believe, because in order to be true several people are lying and fabricating stuff, including those who are near him. You also must dismiss extreme coincidences, consider near impossible scenarios and believe really bad excuses.
 
We Are The Witches said:
I do think DSP sometimes gets a thrill out of lying, just like what the "I'm good at lying" meme shows, but it's not a joke, he might even take pride on it as if he were in control of something. I don't know how many remember when everyone guessed that his tips goal for some event was a red vest (and a dark one), but apparently they were completely wrong because "he thought" he bought an orange-ish one. It was reminiscing of the Jasper situation, an example of his level of decency.

I also think he applies the concept that in order to deceive more convincingly sometimes you must believe your own lies, but only while talking on camera, he knows exactly what he's doing.

If anyone missed some info, not one but multiple of his mods have confirmed that it's him based on his now deleted Discord account, not even mentioning all the other evidence. The troll theory fails from every single angle, it already has been discussed in detail. What surprises me is the attitude of some of his mods that know the truth but decided to let it slide, and ones that just don't get it like Madara.

Imagine letting someone blatantly lie to your face and all your friends in chat just so that you can keep the green sword (now it's a wrench). If it was for me every bit of data in the #4058 mod chat would've been documented and posted a long time ago, who knows how much nonsense was in that old server. People acted too late, otherwise this would've been over and him feigning distress would be clear to anyone that can put 2 and 2 together.

Just to end with this, if you think about it, the "conspiracy theory" is what DSP wants everyone to believe, because in order to be true several people are lying and fabricating stuff, including those who are near him. You also must dismiss extreme coincidences, consider near impossible scenarios and believe really bad excuses.
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On the first part...his new twitter name is a good example of him getting a thrill out of lying

On the mods point...its entirely possible the mods are withholding tips as a result. Remember, he hasnt really hit the goal in a fortnight and new whales arent really beaching themselves on his streams just yet. This is speculation, but quite possible since they have now recognised that tips just go to his mobile game addiction
 
Rainyday Hedge Fund said:
Gamblers always think they can better their situation or come out of a hole if they play just a little longer. @QwahlityKahntent asked a question I've wonder about Dave. I'm sure its been brought up before but with DSP being weird with money he has to have a general ballpark figure, right? Then again I've seen times he let money burn.
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Everything I've ever read says gambling addicts don't actually care if they win or lose (despite what they may say), what they get their dopamine hit from is the anticipation of a win, it's why they can't stop.
So for gatcha players it's probably that moment they click on the loot box (or whatever) and it's spinning and sparking and their brain is high as a kite and then it crashes when the loot is revealed, and then they buy more loot boxes to chase that feeling, and the game is always adding new shit so they can rationalize opening more loot boxes.

And oh yeah, he has such a huge boner right now over that wink to his new jpeg on twitter, he thinks he owned us hard blowing tens of thousands of dollars on that worthless game
 
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What someone else was saying before about gambling, I wanted to expand with a short analogy, when it comes to typical gambling, it's a large fairly deep hole, but eventually if you're able to win some money back, sure you wasted more money then you ever would have gained, but at least you crawled out with a small fortune, if you're in it for that small victory in a sea of failures, you can keep doing down the hole again and again and keep crawling back out for that dopamine hit, even though you won't even really come out a winner.

With your typical gacha mobile games, it is essentially a bottomless pit, you can dump as a much money as you want into something in order to get that immediate pahsitive feedback but you're gonna keep falling as you waste away your money on that experience, you're not actually ever winning anything back like you potentially could with typical gambling at poker or with slot machines, you likely can't do anything with your gacha item nick nacks that you spent a fortune on and it's forever stored in this intangible database that can cease to exist as soon as the company realises not enough people are jumping down the bottomless pit, and shut the server off forever.

So Phil has fallen victim to a worse money pit trap then even dementia ridden boomers, desperate lottery winners and wealthy individuals who gained most of their money from an inheritance, he's only chucking in money on gacha games completely wasting it away on something that he can never get back, the money itself, the time lost in gaining that money, and the realisation that he's in some bottomless pit.
 
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We Are The Witches said:
I do think DSP sometimes gets a thrill out of lying, just like what the "I'm good at lying" meme shows, but it's not a joke, he might even take pride on it as if he were in control of something. I don't know how many remember when everyone guessed that his tips goal for some event was a red vest (and a dark one), but apparently they were completely wrong because "he thought" he bought an orange-ish one. It was reminiscing of the Jasper situation, an example of his level of decency.

I also think he applies the concept that in order to deceive more convincingly sometimes you must believe your own lies, but only while talking on camera, he knows exactly what he's doing.

If anyone missed some info, not one but multiple of his mods have confirmed that it's him based on his now deleted Discord account, not even mentioning all the other evidence. The troll theory fails from every single angle, it already has been discussed in detail. What surprises me is the attitude of some of his mods that know the truth but decided to let it slide, and ones that just don't get it like Madara.

Imagine letting someone blatantly lie to your face and all your friends in chat just so that you can keep the green sword (now it's a wrench). If it was for me every bit of data in the #4058 mod chat would've been documented and posted a long time ago, who knows how much nonsense was in that old server. People acted too late, otherwise this would've been over and him feigning distress would be clear to anyone that can put 2 and 2 together.

Just to end with this, if you think about it, the "conspiracy theory" is what DSP wants everyone to believe, because in order to be true several people are lying and fabricating stuff, including those who are near him. You also must dismiss extreme coincidences, consider near impossible scenarios and believe really bad excuses.
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Listen here you fucking troll idiot kid, it's actually really explainable, any adult would agree with me.

Some troll simply hacked into Phil's email, discord, and smartphone and simply has been siphoning money into this game for years, but in a way Phil would never notice and only whenever Phil wasn't streaming. This is all an elaborate setup to make you look stupid for believing that a $100k+ , multi year troll setup is the actual real thing hahahahaha
 
gaarashatan said:
Imagine if phil wasnt a secretly raging homosexual and was still a horn dog for underage chicks. Prolly wouldve had to take out a 2nd mortgage for genshin
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At least you get something beneficial when you chuck your money to MiHoYo. You get 3D characters and not JPEGS. Damn, when the mainland Chinese have put more effort into their gacha games than you have, it's time to pull the plug on what you do.
 
REGENDarySumanai said:
At least you get something beneficial when you chuck your money to MiHoYo. You get 3D characters and not JPEGS. Damn, when the mainland Chinese have put more effort into their gacha games than you have, it's time to pull the plug on what you do.
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I mean, cope, those are going to be going away too as soon as the game isn't profitable
 
DiabeticSP said:
Edit: I will say a major difference is Phil is spending money on CONSTANT pvp events which is baffling since 99% of gachas no matter how fucked don't do that to their players. Its WILD.
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Yep, these WWE games are the most predatory in the gacha genre. This along with their blatant you need to pay exorbitant amounts of money to do anything. The pinnacle of "Fuck you. Give us your money." I can't hate because it works, Scopely is extremely successful.
 
darkwingosonichugorl said:
Yep, these WWE games are the most predatory in the gacha genre. This along with their blatant you need to pay exorbitant amounts of money to do anything. The pinnacle of "Fuck you. Give us your money." I can't hate because it works, Scopely is extremely successful.
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Its almost like Dave has doppelganger and they play the games that he does in his streams to get that money. Scopley needs that money, they really do.
 
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