WWE Champions General - Despite his claims, DSP is still spending thousands of dollars on the WWE Champions mobile game

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grump said:
Phils financial plan is to spend what he wants and assume his paypigs will pickup the slack and if not, file for bankruptcy and dump it on the laps of taxpayers and the other bank customers. Tbf its worked out so far.
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I still think that will run out eventually. He has found a way to live hand-to-mouth without major car or home repairs or a real medical emergency and any one of those would cost thousands of dollars that he just does not have. I know we joke about "pigroach luck" but going forward he needs those kinds of emergencies to line up with a period where he's eligible for another fraudulent bankruptcy or has easy access to unsecured credit.

This second part is unrelated but double posts are bad form, so here we are: To nobody's surprise, Phil was playing during his 25-minute bathroom break and racked up about 300k talent points for a tourney:


@BT9494 what does this work out to in real money?

EDIT: BT9494 corrected me, the 300k increase is in points for the ongoing event not talent points.
 
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From the cancel stream: "If you don't have any proof, the thing isn't true!" Now of course he was talking about the pwdubs doxing, but if the farms has pages and pages of evidence that Phil is DownFromtheRafters and Phil won't prove he isn't him, by using Phil's own logic it must mean Phil is lying.
 
Sparkletor 2.0 said:
From the cancel stream: "If you don't have any proof, the thing isn't true!" Now of course he was talking about the pwdubs doxing, but if the farms has pages and pages of evidence that Phil is DownFromtheRafters and Phil won't prove he isn't him, by using Phil's own logic it must mean Phil is lying.
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in a court of law, theirs almost no reasonable doubt that down from the rafters isn't him. literally the only thing we don't have is a confession.
 
twattycake said:
I still think that will run out eventually. He has found a way to live hand-to-mouth without major car or home repairs or a real medical emergency and any one of those would cost thousands of dollars that he just does not have. I know we joke about "pigroach luck" but going forward he needs those kinds of emergencies to line up with a period where he's eligible for another fraudulent bankruptcy or has easy access to unsecured credit.

This second part is unrelated but double posts are bad form, so here we are: To nobody's surprise, Phil was playing during his 25-minute bathroom break and racked up about 300k talent points:


@BT9494 what does this work out to in real money?
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Those are points for the current event. Talent refers to the size of Phil's roster, where a 300K increase would probably take months.

It's funny that he plays on his breaks, but this is probably nothing to get too excited about.
 
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If he's not spending very much on this game anymore, then it must be whatever other gacha game he's hooked on, because there's no way Champions is the only one he plays, especially after all this time of it becoming abundantly clear that he'll never be a somebody in it ever again. I wish it was as easy to find his other accounts, but it's good enough to be sure that he's still wasting his money, having learned not a damn thing.
 
TheGoutburglar said:
If he's not spending very much on this game anymore, then it must be whatever other gacha game he's hooked on, because there's no way Champions is the only one he plays, especially after all this time of it becoming abundantly clear that he'll never be a somebody in it ever again.
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I think you are confused about some of the claims being made in this thread. The posts about "It's been a week since he played" are coming from posts about the WWE Champions site which is either broken or being phased out because everybody on there is listed as "last active 9 days ago" including players with zero connection to Phil or his faction.

Autists with access to the in-game tracker have been able to show he's still playing; the only day he may have skipped was the day Twitch removed him from their partnership program. The website wasn't even our best way of tracking his spending - TJGamebox on Twitter has put in a lot of the legwork there for us and he does it just from what he can see in-game.
 
TheGoutburglar said:
If he's not spending very much on this game anymore, then it must be whatever other gacha game he's hooked on, because there's no way Champions is the only one he plays, especially after all this time of it becoming abundantly clear that he'll never be a somebody in it ever again. I wish it was as easy to find his other accounts, but it's good enough to be sure that he's still wasting his money, having learned not a damn thing.
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Remember that this is only one event, and there are at least a dozen of these every month.

Just because one event isn't based on spending doesn't mean he won't go nuts in another. Everything I have seen seems to indicate that he is still firing away at the game. Sometimes it can just be hard to nail down where the cash is going.
 
Come to think of it - are there any other mobile games with an online stats website or API like Champions?
You could probably smoke out Phil's account relatively easily if you just keep filtering it by his stream times. If you find an account on any game that's active during his breaks but never when he's onscreen, it's him.
 
twattycake said:
I think you are confused about some of the claims being made in this thread. The posts about "It's been a week since he played" are coming from posts about the WWE Champions site which is either broken or being phased out because everybody on there is listed as "last active 9 days ago" including players with zero connection to Phil or his faction.

Autists with access to the in-game tracker have been able to show he's still playing; the only day he may have skipped was the day Twitch removed him from their partnership program. The website wasn't even our best way of tracking his spending - TJGamebox on Twitter has put in a lot of the legwork there for us and he does it just from what he can see in-game.
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I'm aware of that, I just figured playing didn't necessarily always equal spending, or at least the kind of spending that puts Phil on track to add another $20k to his total by the end of this year. At least on this game, which is what I was getting at. Any dip in his investment on Champions is sure to yield an increase in spending on another game. The idea of Phil learning to restrain himself is absolutely ludicrous.
BT9494 said:
Remember that this is only one event, and there are at least a dozen of these every month.

Just because one event isn't based on spending doesn't mean he won't go nuts in another. Everything I have seen seems to indicate that he is still firing away at the game. Sometimes it can just be hard to nail down where the cash is going.
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So some events DO require heavy spending? If so, that makes sense, given that people were able to pretty solidly zero in on $40k for his account as it was when it got found over a year ago.

You know, as much as I'm doubtful of this, just for shits and giggles, let's entertain the possibility that gacha doesn't suck up so much of Phil's money that we may as well assume that all the vest streak cash last year went straight to it, and can therefore add that to the $40k estimate. Where else did it go? There's no visible indication of him suddenly getting some hobbies. Let's say half of the vest streak income went to gacha. That still leaves a hefty chunk of change that went... somewhere. I know he spends more than he has to on a number of things, like his internet, but THAT much? I mean, I could probably out-eat Phil with the kind of appetite Mother Nature saw fit to give me, and I still have a hard time imagining that my food bill would be in the thousands per month.

Gacha is the thing that simultaneous makes the least and most amount of sense, which goes to show just how fucked up Phil's brain is.
 
TheGoutburglar said:
You know, as much as I'm doubtful of this, just for shits and giggles, let's entertain the possibility that gacha doesn't suck up so much of Phil's money that we may as well assume that all the vest streak cash last year went straight to it, and can therefore add that to the $40k estimate. Where else did it go?
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Really, the only other options are to Kat or to personal possessions he thought he could get away with hiding in bankruptcy. Neither seems likely to me. (How many $500 coffee machines could he really buy?)
 
TheGoutburglar said:
I'm aware of that, I just figured playing didn't necessarily always equal spending, or at least the kind of spending that puts Phil on track to add another $20k to his total by the end of this year. At least on this game, which is what I was getting at. Any dip in his investment on Champions is sure to yield an increase in spending on another game. The idea of Phil learning to restrain himself is absolutely ludicrous.

So some events DO require heavy spending? If so, that makes sense, given that people were able to pretty solidly zero in on $40k for his account as it was when it got found over a year ago.

You know, as much as I'm doubtful of this, just for shits and giggles, let's entertain the possibility that gacha doesn't suck up so much of Phil's money that we may as well assume that all the vest streak cash last year went straight to it, and can therefore add that to the $40k estimate. Where else did it go? There's no visible indication of him suddenly getting some hobbies. Let's say half of the vest streak income went to gacha. That still leaves a hefty chunk of change that went... somewhere. I know he spends more than he has to on a number of things, like his internet, but THAT much? I mean, I could probably out-eat Phil with the kind of appetite Mother Nature saw fit to give me, and I still have a hard time imagining that my food bill would be in the thousands per month.

Gacha is the thing that simultaneous makes the least and most amount of sense, which goes to show just how fucked up Phil's brain is.
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Well, we could go with - Phail isn't lying about WWE - and is banking his retirement. But then that just means he's lying about something else.
 
Kosher Dill said:
Really, the only other options are to Kat or to personal possessions he thought he could get away with hiding in bankruptcy. Neither seems likely to me. (How many $500 coffee machines could he really buy?)
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The fact that Nancy found him to have nothing of value does a lot to dispel the notion that Phil does anything other than waste a lot of money.
Iron Hamster said:
Well, we could go with - Phail isn't lying about WWE - and is banking his retirement. But then that just means he's lying about something else.
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If he was the type to have a retirement fund, we wouldn't be here.
 
TheGoutburglar said:
The fact that Nancy found him to have nothing of value does a lot to dispel the notion that Phil does anything other than waste a lot of money.

If he was the type to have a retirement fund, we wouldn't be here.
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DSP has made over $2 million in gross in the last decade, and his only asset of value is the home equity in the WA condo that he built up by accident despite only making minimum payments. He has literally nothing else of any significant monetary value.
 
If his little coping about his gacha addiction recently is anything to go on, and I do think it is, Phil probably tries desperately to stave off feelings of guilt and regret over that by telling himself that he had fun with whatever he spent money on, therefore it is okay that he doesn't own any real assets despite his income. You don't tell yourself such things if you're blissfully, completely unaware. Why would it occur to you? Phil knows that he should have quite a nice nest egg right now, and he knows exactly why he doesn't, but he won't accept it. He pushes it away because it hurts too much.

This is how I know he's going to whale his way into homelessness. He's not going to face his addiction, it's too much work and pain for him.
 
twattycake said:
There are videos about the psychology of these games
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I guess I'll just be that guy and ask if anybody in here knows of one about Game of War. I watched it a while ago and have never been able to find it again since. Talked a lot about how much wealth can get wiped out and easing the players into spending more and more. Good video.
 
TheGoutburglar said:
So some events DO require heavy spending? If so, that makes sense, given that people were able to pretty solidly zero in on $40k for his account as it was when it got found over a year ago.
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To be clear about the $40k, this was not for an event. This was how much it would cost to get the highest VIP ranking, which Phil has.
 
Sparkletor 2.0 said:
To be clear about the $40k, this was not for an event. This was how much it would cost to get the highest VIP ranking, which Phil has.
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What I meant is that if all events required big spending, I would expect an account with the highest VIP ranking to have a bigger investment than that in it, whereas only some of them being expensive jives better with an estimate of $40k for such a dedicated player. Obviously I don't have a great frame of reference for this, but if some other folks have unwittingly spent thousands in a short amount of time, then surely it's not ridiculous for someone like Phil, who we know is a very dedicated player, to go way beyond that over the course of several years.
 
Phil had only recently hit the top VIP level when we started tracking him in early 2020, and all indications are that his spending has been roughly constant over time. If VIP 13 was 40K, maybe he's 50K now, but I don't believe his entire 5K/month "business expenses" were ever going entirely to WWE or anything like that.

Also, remember from the WWE whale doxing that most of the players with comparable rankings are white trash around Phil's age who have families and children to raise. Despite being wealthier and having fewer responsiblities, Phil is probably not spending more than them.
 
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