WWE Champions General - Despite his claims, DSP is still spending thousands of dollars on the WWE Champions mobile game

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TheTractor said:
In an alternate universe DSP is happily married to Rambo, Leanna received a proper education and never got groomed, Khet and her sister have been properly exorcised by the Vatican and Derich ended up in a COOMED tissue left by his father.
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And I neck myself out of boredom at work because I never discover the Farms. Run by Chris Chan.

Generic_Detractor2021 said:
Lets start taking bets as to when we can change it to "millions"...

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Well he made 7 grand in tips this last month? And thats his best month in tips? Saying 5 grand is his regular. And he only spends his tips at that. That is roughly 200 months. Sooooo how close are we to that? I know thats almost 20 years, but we have been saying 40k way back at the start? How long ago was that?
 
Somehow, DSP whaling in this game is still not as wasteful as him paying the mortgage and HOA fees on the CT condo for four years without even attempting to rent it out or sell it.

This thread is, at best, only the second dumbest thing he's ever done financially.
 
Madre Muerte said:
How does spending money in a game even help you if you still suck at the core game?
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At the level of whaling Dave does in this game you basically instawin as soon as you start playing, since you only need to match 1 or 2 bejeweled rows to win.
 
Salubrious said:
Somehow, DSP whaling in this game is still not as wasteful as him paying the mortgage and HOA fees on the CT condo for four years without even attempting to rent it out or sell it.

This thread is, at best, only the second dumbest thing he's ever done financially.
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The former gout shack will be eliminated eventually though.
 
Iron Hamster said:
The former gout shack will be eliminated eventually though.
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And he'll have wasted at least $10K on it minimum rather than just selling it before moving out.

Also remember, when he moved, DSP was still with Machinima. He could have easily rented out an apartment or some place month-to-month (or else, even paid a year's rent upfront), or do what a lot of people do and move in with his parents for a couple months until the sale closed and he moved across country.

I know there are theories as to why DSP was in such a rush that he picked like the 3rd or 4th place he saw and bolted, but it's still fascinating to me that part of DSP's lore that only gets brought up in passing. Not only did he move across the country for no real reason, but he did it in a hurry.
 
Okay here we go.

Here's Phil's total wrestler count and roster talent, last 30days of battles, and last 30 days of faction missions for the past 7 days:
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The month of March:
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And the whole of 2021 so far:
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Again, disclaimer: I don't play this game and I don't know how money gets spent in it. DSP seems to play a consistent amount of battles a day across all of March, while continuing to increase his wrestler count and roster talent. But is there anything I can point to and say, that's definitely where DSP's excess donations (especially the 700 dollars on Monday) goes to? Not really.

EDIT: As far as I can tell I think the base strategy is to spend in-game currency on token bags that contain shards used to upgrade wrestlers from bronze-silver-gold and from 1 star to 4 star (5 star superstars seem to be a recent addition to the game and I can't tell if they're part of this process or not)

EDIT 2: For reference, a post from a random Redditor about a year ago:
I can’t even complete basic battles without having a four star superstar. I’ve spent close to $600 on this game since I’ve started and the highest level superstar is a 3-star Bronze Austin 3:16 at 3553.
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For comparison, DSP's best superstars are:
1. a 5-star with ~21,000 talent.
2. a 5-star with ~20,000 talent.
3. a 5-star with ~20,000 talent.
4. a 5-star with ~20,000 talent.
5. a 5-star with ~20,000 talent.

And he has over thirty 5-star wrestlers.
 
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Watch that Canadian retard's videos. You spend $50 for some gatcha pulls. There are several different types of "shards" or whaterver you want to call them. I guess you get the shards and use them to level up. I think you can pull duplicate wrestlers to level up too. I don't play anything but RuneScape so I have no idea.
 
Salubrious said:
Also remember, when he moved, DSP was still with Machinima. He could have easily rented out an apartment or some place month-to-month (or else, even paid a year's rent upfront), or do what a lot of people do and move in with his parents for a couple months until the sale closed and he moved across country.
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People repeatedly told him this and he'd just respond by tard raging and calling them idiots, while himself coming up with completely idiotic reasons he couldn't.
 
Red Bistro said:
Okay here we go.

Here's Phil's total wrestler count and roster talent, last 30days of battles, and last 30 days of faction missions for the past 7 days:View attachment 2056428

The month of March:
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And the whole of 2021 so far:
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Again, disclaimer: I don't play this game and I don't know how money gets spent in it. DSP seems to play a consistent amount of battles a day across all of March, while continuing to increase his wrestler count and roster talent. But is there anything I can point to and say, that's definitely where DSP's excess donations (especially the 700 dollars on Monday) goes to? Not really.

EDIT: As far as I can tell I think the base strategy is to spend in-game currency on token bags that contain shards used to upgrade wrestlers from bronze-silver-gold and from 1 star to 4 star (5 star superstars seem to be a recent addition to the game and I can't tell if they're part of this process or not)

EDIT 2: For reference, a post from a random Redditor about a year ago:

For comparison, DSP's best superstars are:
1. a 5-star with ~21,000 talent.
2. a 5-star with ~20,000 talent.
3. a 5-star with ~20,000 talent.
4. a 5-star with ~20,000 talent.
5. a 5-star with ~20,000 talent.

And he has over thirty 5-star wrestlers.
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Full disclosure: Once my roster hit one million and they introduced five star guys, I put the game down and haven't logged on since. So I may be lacking some knowledge with the latest stuff.

That being said, this is one of those areas where it is tough to nail down exact numbers. Some of the events have point totals that correlate perfectly with money spent, and thus make it easy on us. However when it comes to coins/TP/USD spent on each wrestler, that is more difficult.

With the sheer amount of pulls he is doing, there are bound to be shards that can be used to upgrade moves. Sometimes you would save shards to fuse a guy to a higher level, but DSP is probably pulling characters at high rarities with his pay to win playstyle and doesn't need to worry about that.

I was always astonished that he had enough coins to take his characters straight up to max level. Coins are the most basic unit of currency on Champions, and are available in decent amounts by completing matches/tours. However, it took tens of millions of coins to get a guy from level one to max four star gold level (either level 100 or 120...can't remember). No matter what rarity you pull a character, it always starts at level one. I can't even imagine how many coins it takes to achieve the 20 levels for five star bronze and still another 20 for five star silver.

In summary, while I think the majority of his spending is mega pulls it is a strong possibility that he buys select resource packages as well. These usually cost between $10 - $100, and will bundle a bunch of coins/TP/tokens to make the player feel that they are getting some kind of deal. Anyone that has seen screenshots of the WWE Champions store knows just how many ways to spend there are in this game.
 
Gezkill said:
Humor me on this one and lets play devils advocate.

Is there any kind of evidence out there that shows that he's right and we are wrong about his sweaty men addiction?
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The only single shred left is that he himself hasn't admitted to it.
So in other words, no.
 
Gezkill said:
Humor me on this one and lets play devils advocate.

Is there any kind of evidence out there that shows that he's right and we are wrong about his sweaty men addiction?
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Well if we're going full devil's advocate, all the evidence provided that it's him could be fabricated. For this to be a reality though, it would take a team of people with a large amount of financial resources and uniquely talented folk who would have to have a hate-boner stronger than Superhound's and autism levels that would put him to shame and they would have to be solely focused on DSP's schedule on and off Twitch to manufacture not only the playschedule of NotDSP over the course of ~3 years but also all the time spent socializing with others involved in WWE Champions playing as DSP. A team this nefarious would be able to topple small governments but would have to think that of all the other applicable benefits of having these skills and resources that a relative nobody streamer who scams wheelchairs for a living would be worthy of such endeavors to not hurt him financially, not hurt him legally, but simply make him look like more of a ridiculous human being knowing that all he has to do to ignore this scandal is deny and ban people talking about it till it goes away.
 
Gezkill said:
Humor me on this one and lets play devils advocate.

Is there any kind of evidence out there that shows that he's right and we are wrong about his sweaty men addiction?
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No, none. We know "TheyCallMeDSP" and "Down from the Rafters" are the same account, we've seen the login times, we've had educated guesses on how much that account is worth. There are some unresolved questions like the exact timeline of his Discord accounts and how much his mods knew/know but those are comparatively minor. At some point even the most committed or autistic troll has to concede that all that's left is nitpicking.

The other thing to keep in mind is that even if we grant that it's not Phil and is an absurd coincidence or committed troll, it raises the question of how the hell he managed to go bankrupt. The filing showed he had a ton of credit card debt so he was obviously blowing tons of money somewhere even if we assume it wasn't Champions, and there just aren't many ways to spend that much in only a few years. I know the WWE Champions saga can sound ridiculous to a newcomer but it's the least insane explanation any of us can think of.
 
Gezkill said:
Humor me on this one and lets play devils advocate.

Is there any kind of evidence out there that shows that he's right and we are wrong about his sweaty men addiction?
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All Phil would have to do to prove us wrong is show us his username.

But the proof we have it's phil is:
  • The username - who else would use "TheyCallMeDSP"?
  • Writing analysis of the players discord messages is a match for Phil
  • The Line app a faction uses linked Phils phone number to the account in question
  • The player has a discord user ID which matched Phils old discord
  • The player has a discord avatar which was an uncropped image that phil used elsewhere
  • The amount this player spends on the game matches the $1000's in expenses that Phil claimed on his bankruptcy
You have to be a fucking retard to not think that this player is DSP at this point and this is just the stuff I can remember from the top of my head.

twattycake said:
The filing showed he had a ton of credit card debt so he was obviously blowing tons of money somewhere even if we assume it wasn't Champions, and there just aren't many ways to spend that much in only a few years.
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It's not just that, it's how did Phil spend all that money on credit cards and have NOTHING to show for it? At least go buy some clothes or a boat, holidays, cars, motorcycles, expensive furniture or TV's and shit.

How do you spend $400k and have literally nothing that the court can take from you to pay back the debt?

Phil points out "well it can't be me because the bankruptcy was approved". It's not the courts job to decide if you spent the money in a reasonable way, he could have gambled it all away at a casino and the bankruptcy would still get approved. It's the courts job to decide that if Phil has the income or assets to pay back the debt. He also managed to put his CPA into pignosis by getting him to sign off his mobile game spending as a business expense because the guy isn't going to sit there and cross reference 100's of hours of youtube videos to decide which games Phil can put as expenses and which he can't... He just takes Phils word for it.
 
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