Andy Bandy Man
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Can you imagine working in pay 4 cosmetic gaming, and knowing most income comes in from pay pigs like dsp, and building your content around that demograpgic?
WWE Champions General - Despite his claims, DSP is still spending thousands of dollars on the WWE Champions mobile game
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How did he do it before?
Get a Visa card. Max it out. Pay it with Master Card. Max it out. Pay it with Discover. Max it out. Pay it with Sam's Club. Max it out. Pay it with etc. Etc. Etc.
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Yeah but that's amateur level, that's what he's done up until now. What if you set a 7 year timer and he has to do it with like 30 cards.
I mean I knew a dude who managed this level of bankruptcy, but he was pretty smart. Phil isn't. He will fuck this shit up, I guarantee it, until I remember fucking pigroach luck.
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They fucking delight in it. They lean into it. DSP is their perfect consoomer. In 2019, their SVP Spencer Tucker was a little too honest in a panel session given about game monetization. The interview was truncated once they realized their mistake, but then shortly restored when they realized it made them look as guilty as they were: https://archive.md/szFrU
One of the things they accidentally said is that the odds are bullshit, there's a fixed number of items you can buy, and they are isolated by faction groups and other demographics. They prey on people's inability to sense when things are rigged against them. They liken it *exactly* to a gacha machine in this response (SVP Tucker speaking first):
Note the vocabulary here from Tucker. "Chasing". They know exactly what buttons to push to get people stuck in a loop of buying and playing.
Chasing the thing, chasing the refresh. They want their consoomers on the most straightforward and unabashed treadmill they can be, wallet to game, as much as possible.
Finally they know full well that factions induce social pressure to spend more money, and they love it (Tucker again):
"PUSHING PEOPLE TO STRETCH BEYOND THEIR NORMAL CAPACITY TO SPEND" does that sound familiar to anyone?
Phil is the perfect fucking idiot for Scopely. He won't ask any questions. He'll keep throwing in money, he won't try and understand the odds, he'll offer up no resistance to any predatory change they choose to make. His faction will need him to spend more, and he'll spend more. He'll need the best fighters, and so he'll spend more.
I'll end this unexpectedly long post with a terrifying look at the kinds of decisions WWE Champions players make when they're trying to fucking play this game.
First off: look how many fucking kinds of "tokens" you could possibly need. I don't know what the fuck any of this shit is. I think they're individual wrester "types", "showboat", "powerhouse", and the rest, but I don't fucking know.
BT9494 suggests these prices may not be real-world-currency, but the need for people to make these flowcharts to navigate the misleading odds and make sense of all the token types still points to the predatory nature of the game.
Fucking scam top to bottom.
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tzgnilki
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I remember something saying the mobile games industry is bigger than music, movies and regular games.. combined
it's nuts
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Look at a publicly-traded company's investor report sometime. Something like Zynga. It really is nuts how much people spend on mobile games.
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The fact that anyone would willingly go into this fuckery is crazy. F2P games pummeling you into spending with a million traps is bad enough, but this shit...
So I did some internet searching to see if cheaters get banned over there. There's a mention of a banwave after a mass cheating issue in 2018. So basically same shit as GTA Online or anything with huge player numbers. In short, they don't ban, unless the cheating is outrageous and well documented. So yeah, you might as well go right ahead and cheat.
One comment in the reddit thread caught my eye. People in the community seem to say it. So does one handsome and succesful streamer, who totally isn't DownFromTheRafters.
If you ever feel the need to whale out on gacha games, just reevaluate your life. It's pointless. Some chucklenuts with a little know how and a memory editor can give himself all the sweaty bejeweled beefcake you could dream of in 30 seconds and then crush your """cheap""" team you spent """only""" 5 thousand dollars on.
EDIT: It just boggles my mind that Phil's paypigs empty their wallets into his so he can empty his wallet into Champions. This is one of the most wasteful, dangerous and destructive addictions you could have. At least a sex addiction is fun. At least a drug addiciton will kill you faster than you'd normally die, making it a self sorting issue to some degree. At least a gambling addiction ocasionally pays off.
At his heart of hearts Phil is STILL chasing the thrice damned Wolverine Figure. He wants the rare wrestlers and he doesn't care what it takes. His wheelchairs are now his dad, providing him with the money he needs for his autistic thirst for toys. His soulmaid is his mom, taking him for walkies on Tuesday and heating up microwaveable treats. Phil isn't even a mature adult.
Again, kids or young adults falling for this shit I somewhat understand, but a pudgy middle aged man falling for such a scam, and in turn pushing another scam on even more gullible people has to be a Clownworld exclusive. Only on this timeline.
You know, Phil, I think it would be in all of our interests to just have you play something you can lose at. It's been too long. You've savescummed Hitman, you're hellbent on 100%ing Yakoozer with a guide, you're still stalling on Valhalla... Just bring up Divinity. Make it happen. Without you sucking at videogames, or sticking to things with no failstates since at least November, all that remains is how slimy, greedy, and toxic you are. Fleecing actual, literal wheelchairs to feed a worthless addiction. Distract us from this by just being good ol' retard Phil, unable to grasp the subtleties of videogames. By the way, you beat Resident Evil 2 Remake on EASY, using adaptive difficulty to worm your way through. Not on Hardcore. How about a redemption run? Village is coming out soon.
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I think you are right. About five to ten years ago he described kiting as this brilliant way to never pay interest on his cards and how he specifically knew to look for the low-or no-introductory APR ones. Obviously because he's an autistic narcissist he never used the word "kiting" and portrayed it as his own idea but the core concept is there. Considering the amount of debt he had spread across all those cards and the Discover Bank filings showing he was accruing tons of interest I feel comfortable saying he fucked it up.
We are also going to be in a very strange time now that COVID has happened - plenty of responsible people who own businesses have had major hardships or gone bankrupt while deadbeats are being protected from collections or eviction, so the old system for assessing creditworthiness will probably end up being junked. I'm just musing out loud here, I have no idea if this would help or hurt Phil.
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Not to detract from your otherwise excellent post, but this part isn't true. As far as Phil is concerned, his factions can go to hell. They're just there to help him masturbate. He won't even click the "Help Button" to help them, let alone spend money on their behalf.
Fortunately for Scopely, he doesn't need any additional encouragement to spend every dime he has.
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Might be why they decided to use such a naked reference to "Chasing the dragon" to describe what they want their users to be doing.
Which definitely shouldn't raise any red flags.
That is fucking insane. Seeing those prices, I thought they were talking about an in-game currency.
Fucking $1250 for an 8.3% chance to get one kind of token. So it should only cost you $15060.241...
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This isn't relative to DSPiledriver being a dumb faggot who can't handle the responsibility of Daddychat giving him his own cell phone, or the math or science behind that.
I'm just popping in to say that I watched Ready to Rumble last night with the guy who taught me everything I know about wrestling, & it was mad awesome. We caught it together the night it opened in theaters 21 years ago & try to watch it together at least once a year ever since, despite the complications of that task as a teenager vs. your 30s.
Half the wrestlers in that movie are dead now <3 & filmed in 1999, it wound up a great sendoff party that no one knew they were throwing for the last days of the WCW.
Peak hilarious (if you get off on lowbrow lulz like I do). 10/10. Top 10 of all time favorites for me. Emphatically recommend, whether you're into wrestling or not. (And 2nd best commentary track of all time, watch it with that too.)
I'm just popping in to say that I watched Ready to Rumble last night with the guy who taught me everything I know about wrestling, & it was mad awesome. We caught it together the night it opened in theaters 21 years ago & try to watch it together at least once a year ever since, despite the complications of that task as a teenager vs. your 30s.
Half the wrestlers in that movie are dead now <3 & filmed in 1999, it wound up a great sendoff party that no one knew they were throwing for the last days of the WCW.
Peak hilarious (if you get off on lowbrow lulz like I do). 10/10. Top 10 of all time favorites for me. Emphatically recommend, whether you're into wrestling or not. (And 2nd best commentary track of all time, watch it with that too.)
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BT9494
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I have never seen this chart and there is certainly a lot going on there.
However, I think that these are referring to IGC and not USD. The tokens shown there are readily available all over the place and are worth 1/100th of what is being suggested here. Paying for two and three star tokens would be the nut low.
I haven't logged into the game in a while but I feel confident in saying this. Sorry in advance if this has already been addressed.
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If that's true, I apologize for the misinformation. Do you know the range of prices for the in-game purchases? It seems weird they'd make a fuss over, say a 450 in-game-currency bag vs a 200 in-game-currency bag, if we accept all these prices are 100 times the real-world-currency they're worth.
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No matter what, this game makes EA sports look honest by comparison.
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The distinction was because you have to unlock the $450 by upgrading a wrestler to a certain level. If you don't have that milestone you couldn't do it so you'd have to settle for the lower rate.
BT9494
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I can only guess that this is an old chart from a time when those tokens were more valuable. I could see this being relevant in the pre-four star days but not now.
Every time a new star level debuts, there are a lot of these options in the store. In typical Scopely fashion they will advertise 1000 IGC for a "four star bag" which includes every level of token from one to four star. Needless to say, the drop rates for the better tokens is much lower.
I think that the exchange rate in the store is roughly $1/100 IGC. Although if you purchase the more expensive bundles they usually throw in an extra 20% or something like that.
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A family member of mine had to declare bankruptcy in 2018 due to their business going under. Within 6 months post-discharge, they were receiving credit card offers in the mail, disguised as a way to "rebuild their credit". The credit limit is small (under 1k) and if I recall correctly, it was a very high APR something like 28.99%.
When Phil says you can't get credit until 7 years post-bankruptcy, he is full of shit. You may not be able to get credit for a new house or a million dollar yacht, but you can still get credit.