WWE Champions General - Despite his claims, DSP is still spending thousands of dollars on the WWE Champions mobile game

[Prince Lotor]

Nice try??? And if the account is from before he got doxxed, I.e. 6 years ago. I think its something that someone with shit-for-brains like Phil could forget about entirely. I think its extremely reasonable to consider that Phil could've genuinely forgotten.

Phil has an iphone. LINE didn't release for iOS until October 2014, so that means this has been Phil's phone number since before it was possible for him to download the app. This was 100% Phil's phone number when the account was created, unless he: got a new number in the last 30 days and a detractor got assigned his old number and randomly signed him up for the LINE app.

https://line.fandom.com/wiki/LINE

Phil has owned an iphone5 since at least June 2013, this phone number was associated with an iphone since before LINE was available for iOS. The LINE account was not created before this was Phil's phone number.
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[Anal birth]

He does treat Kat like he treated Pandalee minus Pandalee taking shots at him on stream. He wasn't helpful in any of the factions he was in, he was trying to flex his wallet and his "skill" at the game and of course he would continue doing that. I think you're trying to stitch together strands of logic that don't flow together here to be devils advocate.

It is entirely possible that we're both right, you understand that surely? My belief is pretty much that I agree its his account, I just think there's no definitive proof that it was for WWE champions or is currently being used for it so we shoul be skeptical about viewing this as a nail in the coffin. Anything other than proof he is playing mobile games is a reach until we see chatlogs from the factions. At that point I'll happily accept that its active. I want this to be true as much as everyone else but I'm not going to let my desire cloud my judgement.

It's true that you can use Line for anything, but it's also true that Phil would only use Line for communicating with gacha guilds. It's not like he has friends or is a weeb.

As above, currently this only goes to show that at a point in time Phil has been in factions on gacha games, it doesn't add much or anything at all to the already huge amount of evidence that Downfromtherafters is him.

You're either saying he still plays casually or once played but just forgot. I'm saying a guy who can't even be arsed to upgrade to direct capture even having an account shows he was/is serious about the game so that eliminates the phil is a casual theories. This app is supposedly a big deal in game so the theories he is hardcore but forgot about it doesn't seem all too likely either. What other possibilities are you thinking of?

Again, you're strawmanning me. As above I'm saying that it doesn't really add weight to the evidence, it just shows that he's played mobile games at a point in time. I believe Downfromtherafters is Phil based on the other evidence. His denial of the app could be for a plethora of reasons, one of which, I agree is for hiding the truth but that doesn't mean we should rule out the other possibilities. I think there is reason enough to be doubtful and we should keep that in mind

 

[Prince Lotor]

It is entirely possible that we're both right, you understand that surely? My belief is pretty much that I agree its his account, I just think there's no definitive proof that it was for WWE champions or is currently being used for it so we shoul be skeptical about viewing this as a nail in the coffin. Anything other than proof he is playing mobile games is a reach until we see chatlogs from the factions. At that point I'll happily accept that its active. I want this to be true as much as everyone else but I'm not going to let my desire cloud my judgement.


As above, currently this only goes to show that at a point in time Phil has been in factions on gacha games, it doesn't add much or anything at all to the already huge amount of evidence that Downfromtherafters is him.


Again, you're strawmanning me. As above I'm saying that it doesn't really add weight to the evidence, it just shows that he's played mobile games at a point in time. I believe Downfromtherafters is Phil based on the other evidence. His denial of the app could be for a plethora of reasons, one of which, I agree is for hiding the truth but that doesn't mean we should rule out the other possibilities. I think there is reason enough to be doubtful and we should keep that in mind

I'm all for it if people want to try to get some type of LINE app chatlogs or group-call data or something from members of some of the previous factions he was in.

Might be sort of difficult considering they probably aren't too well disposed towards the people who would be asking considering why he was kicked out though.

Also Phil will have to go back on his vehement blanket denials of ANY knowledge of the app to try to pretend he had some other use for a 2nd messaging app on his phone he forgot about, and in his response to MoraMoria he said "I know nothing about it. I've never used it and I certainly never made any account in it." and then when on for multiple paragraphs REE'ing about how a troll must have made that account using his information when that isn't possible, so it will be very funny seeing him try to retcon and explain how a troll made that account to frame him and he accidentally replied with the confirmation code to create the account.

 

[Anal birth]

I'm all for it if people want to try to get some type of LINE app chatlogs or group-call data or something from members of some of the previos factions he was in.

Might be sort of difficult considering they probably aren't too well disposed towards the people who would be asking considering why he was kicked out though.

Also Phil will have to go back on his vehement blanket denials of ANY knowledge of the app to try to pretend he had some other use for a 2nd messaging app on his phone he forgot about, and in his response to MoraMoria he said "I know nothing about it. I've never used it and I certainly never made any account in it." and then when on for multiple paragraphs REE'ing about how a troll must have made that account using his information when that isn't possible, so it will be very funny seeing him try to retcon and explain how a troll made that account to frame him and he accidentally replied with the confirmation code to create the account.

For sure, I'm bringing up my doubts because I have them primarily but secondly if we know all the avenues for him to try and pigsplain his way out we can close them before he tries it. I'm 100% convinced its his account just like everyone else, I just want to be certain that it can be conclusively linked to his WWE account

 

[PieceofShet]

Im not sure what shocks me more: him spending 60k+ dollars on a mobile game or the fact that he never changed his phone number after got doxxed.

 

[tzgnilki]

Can you name every app you used in the last 5 or so years? I don't get why you're trying to strawman me,I think its entirely reasonable to suggest he could have just forgotten about the app completely. I'm not sure the second half of your post even matters, I'm not trying to suggest it isn't his account at all, I'm just saying that I don't think it is the final nail in the coffin nor is it evidence for him using WWE champions at all. Several people have pointed out correctly that WWE champions isn't unique for people using line and his name not being his ingame name is a major red flag. I think its entirely possible to come to the conclusion that yes Phil plays WWE champions but this line account isn't evidence for that, its just general evidence that he plays these kinda games.


I would take it the other way. We all know Phil and we all know what an entitled fuck he is. I would imagine that would be the case if he was still in faction with other whales he was trying to impress. But right now he's a big fish in a tiny pond and he probably views himself as being above everyone else and refuses to do anything. I see your point but I would imagine for either of us to be correct we would need to see the faction chat. Up until that point I would argue that given that there is doubt around it we have to maintain that its doubtful until we see evidence to the contrary.

we've seen phil float between factions who use, discord, facebook, whatsapp, now Line

the pattern I see is an attempt to hide behind obscure communities

.onion faction next

 

[grump]

we've seen phil float between factions who use, discord, facebook, whatsapp, now Line

the pattern I see is an attempt to hide behind obscure communities

.onion faction next

The fact that he has LINE adds weight that he is a gacha fiend by itself.

Saying this adds no weight is like finding out someone once had a Grindr Platinum account and you go 'well this doesn't mean anything at all.. Maybe he just signed up for it on a lark and forgot.'

 

[Swirling weeb]

“So you see your honor even though that is my car that is clearly on tape running over that hobo and you have me on cctv on a store a few blocks away from the accident that is not me! That’s muh wife khat she was buying supplies for our son jasper” That’s what this whole thing sounds like

 

[Iron Hamster]

Maybe it has already been mentioned and maybe my thought process is too simple, but:

Can't we get in contact with some members of his previous factions, ask them if they used Line and if so if our friend TheyCallMeDSP was active in one of them. At least that would take away any doubts regarding the timeframe of this account being active. Hell, maybe they could even leak the conversations to spot some of the Burnell linguistic specials.

Like I said, maybe I'm too simple minded but I do recall @Nigel of Ukip being in contact with some of these clowns, maybe there is some magic to be worked there?

Not sure they'd be too willing to lend a hand after being doxed.

They clearly don't use the faction chat seeing as they have a line account so I would say its entirely possible that that's a moot point seeing as he will appear everywhere else to be 'Downfromtherafters'

It was discovered that the only thing that changed was the name of the team. Everything else on the app still has TheCallMeDSP. It's a couple pages back.

 

[Iron Hamster]

Just to add on to the "how do you know I didn't change my number?" It costs money to change your mobile phone number. Any major carrier charges around 40 to 50 to do it. I also seem to recall wingz crying about having to change his number less than a year ago after it got leaked, and him saying something like 70 bucks. Thats off the top of my head, so pardon if it's incorrect. And while he wouldn't want to announce publicly that he got a new number, he would 100% cry about the fee to change it, and thats not even debatable. Judging from what we know due to the bankruptcy, this piece of shit isn't spending money on anything but the bare minimum, unless of course its for mobile games, statue's, food, junk, etc. Which also means he ain't spending 50 bucks (or more), plus go through the hassle of calling the mobile carrier and taking the time to do it (especially when he has important champions business meetings to attend via the line app).

Somebody also pointed out upthread that he just recently admitted to having the same number after he went shopping for an alarm clock (expensive I'm sure). This was like 2 or 3 months ago. Get fucked,

You're either saying he still plays casually or once played but just forgot. I'm saying a guy who can't even be arsed to upgrade to direct capture even having an account shows he was/is serious about the game so that eliminates the phil is a casual theories. This app is supposedly a big deal in game so the theories he is hardcore but forgot about it doesn't seem all too likely either. What other possibilities are you thinking of?

He also melted down because he 'doesn't have time' to cancel a $33 sub he says he doesn't use but got charged for.

 

[The Penultimate Warrior]

“So you see your honor even though that is my car that is clearly on tape running over that hobo and you have me on cctv on a store a few blocks away from the accident that is not me! That’s muh wife khat she was buying supplies for our son jasper” That’s what this whole thing sounds like

It's more like "ok Your Aaahnaah, this mentally ill detractor is claiming I own this make of German car, which I've never even heard of. The truth of the matter is I've never owned it, it's just some other troll using my name on the insurance and registration. Because there's this complete shithead called Tevin who steals my content, and he should be in the dock instead of me. This all started when I got fired from my job at the helicopter plant FOR NO REASON........."

Several years later, at the parole hearing

"well we've still got a lot of idiots in the room saying I owned that BMW that ran over the hobo. Uh actually, the BMW is on finance and you don't own the car until it's fully paid off. I'm still making payments, although it's a real struggle at the moment since contributions are really low. Therefore, the finance company still owns it. DEBUNKED.

 

[SauceRyuKen]

We are trending on TKOH!

"New Detractor Meme"

Upon hearing the “new detractor meme”, (thanks for coining that term, after today, further use of it will not help your case), about a Line account and you denying its existence, I have to ask you, what is your argument? You seem surprised that the “WWEChampions” still goes on, and you pretend to...

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think im missing something, why does the post about the TheyCallMeDSP account on the guild discord have the discord id hidden? I can see the mod screenshot where the TheyCallMeDSP account has the 4058 at the end of it, but I don't see a screenshot with the TheyCallMeDSP guild discord account with the numbers at the end of it? How do we know they are the same account?

I haven't gone through the posts in detail, but what it seems like to me is that the discord pics are supposed to be the most damning evidence. Why was the discord id blocked from those screenshots?

How do we know that the discord user in the guild isn't a mod or someone who is aware of the what the real DSP's discord profile pic is? How do we know it's not someone who made an account on WWE Champions, used the same profile pic, and deliberately logs onto the app when phil is not streaming to make it look like it's phil?

EDIT: nvm, just saw that the accounts according to the screenshots do have the same number. i didnt see the number in the search bar the first time

Roughly similar writing style, although Mora's is better punctuated. Sharpie's back to the thread now. And Mora basically makes all the points we made back then to Sharpie. Fair to say Mora reads here at the very least... Or Sharpie is Mora hiding his powerlevel. Optimistic, I know. Welp, you stay off your pignosis, man. It seems like all you paypigs always come crawling back to your master's gouty feet.

EDIT: To be honest, Phil's caught red handed with his hand in the cookie jar, dood. Not that he wasn't before, but this really is a nail in the coffin. Phil still has the same number, Phil has a Line account and it's under the TheyCallMeDSP name. Basically, going by Hanlon's razor, again... And Moria mentioned Hitchen's razor in his post when I mentioned Hanlon's to Sharpie before, lol...

This entirely rules out the possibility of it being a troll, leaving us with one possibility. The man with the phone number, that uses the weeaboo messaging app, that Phil doesn't even know about, shocker... Is likely to be linked to the WWEC account that has TheyCallMeDSP as a screen name. Just nut up and cook up some shitty sob story about your depression forcing you into adickshun, Pig. Not like the paypigs are gonna stop throwing their disability checks at you. Grace us with some Champions streams, let us know just how shit you are with money.

Simply put, the 0.5% chance Phil was clinging onto, the fact that it COULD be a super rich, limitless resources troll who could put SuperHound's autism to utter shame with 0 effort is fucking gone. If TheyCallMeDSP was indeed NotDSP, he'd have a different phone number for Line. If Phil isn't Rafters, then why does he have a Line account? And why is it called TheyCallMeDSP?

 

[Mr. Brown]

Big boy joined a new faction.

Paging @Nigel of Ukip

All credit to LightSydePhil:

https://twitter.com/LightSydeGaming

 

[SkippyLongbottom]

"...so back in 2014..."

That's where he lost me already. I can scan that entire post and see just a bunch of bullshit. Wow, he's really good at making you forget what the post is even about and from the looks of it, he is using every fallacy he can from his book of victimhood.

Bro, it's not so deep on everyone elses end to see you using a Lineapp with your number, requires your verification, and also being in a WWE Champs guild that is required. That fuckin vomit of paragraph victimhood is not gonna derail anyone.

 

[Iron Hamster]

What is that dsp is a hacker tweet?

 

[LostMy1stAccount]

What is that dsp is a hacker tweet?

I would guess they can't fathom how someone can spent so much on the game and called him a cheater for it.

 

[SkippyLongbottom]

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Roughly similar writing style, although Mora's is better punctuated. Sharpie's back to the thread now. And Mora basically makes all the points we made back then to Sharpie. Fair to say Mora reads here at the very least... Or Sharpie is Mora hiding his powerlevel. Optimistic, I know. Welp, you stay off your pignosis, man. It seems like all you paypigs always come crawling back to your master's gouty feet.

EDIT: To be honest, Phil's caught red handed with his hand in the cookie jar, dood. Not that he wasn't before, but this really is a nail in the coffin. Phil still has the same number, Phil has a Line account and it's under the TheyCallMeDSP name. Basically, going by Hanlon's razor, again... And Moria mentioned Hitchen's razor in his post when I mentioned Hanlon's to Sharpie before, lol...

This entirely rules out the possibility of it being a troll, leaving us with one possibility. The man with the phone number, that uses the weeaboo messaging app, that Phil doesn't even know about, shocker... Is likely to be linked to the WWEC account that has TheyCallMeDSP as a screen name. Just nut up and cook up some shitty sob story about your depression forcing you into adickshun, Pig. Not like the paypigs are gonna stop throwing their disability checks at you. Grace us with some Champions streams, let us know just how shit you are with money.

Simply put, the 0.5% chance Phil was clinging onto, the fact that it COULD be a super rich, limitless resources troll who could put SuperHound's autism to utter shame with 0 effort is fucking gone. If TheyCallMeDSP was indeed NotDSP, he'd have a different phone number for Line. If Phil isn't Rafters, then why does he have a Line account? And why is it called TheyCallMeDSP?

I think Moira has been digging into it as of recently since I saw a Plebbit thread three days ago, wanting to be spoonfed on the thing when a simple Google search "DSP WWE Champions" goes right to this thread. Person wanted all the details and it was probably the most Moira thing I've seen on a page dedicated to discussing how stupid Phil is.

 

[Generic_Detractor2021]

Big boy joined a new faction.

Paging @Nigel of Ukip

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All credit to LightSydePhil:

https://twitter.com/LightSydeGaming

Why, Phil, why?? This is becoming unrealistic at this point. I mean if it's just out of spite, then ok, I can KIND OF understand that. But everyone knows it's you!! I mean everyone, even your own fans that were under years of pignosis.

Anyone that's been around an addict or has been one themselves knows that the person with the addiction becomes almost unrecognizable after a certain point. They do things that they wouldn't normally do, they lie, they deny, they cover up, they scheme, anything to get their fix. It's hard to even say whether it's the addiction, because he's acted this way for so long. He lied his way through the bankruptcy, he seems to think he is clear from any repercussions of the foreclosure (which I doubt, but we'll see), he has his wife/parents/whales (maybe?) convinced.. He seems to able to get away with everything, and yet, he can't get out of his own way.

I pity you, Phil. You really need some form of help. But then your pre-stream starts, and you open your big fat fucking mouth and spew all kinds of "toxicity", and then I remember why this thread (and your own section exists). And then I don't pity you anymore. Fuck you, Phil! No really, I mean that, fuck you!

 

[strandedcastaway]

Why is there a debate even going on at this point?

Who's even heard of Line and why would anyone have it installed other than for weird shit like this?

Why would Phil bother changing the name to cover his tracks when it's linked to his Phone number? The username could be SuperHoundTevin42069 it wouldn't matter because it's his phone number.

Why would you deny having ever installed it when you clearly did unless it was to cover up you being a degenerate gacha fiend.

Agree 100%, but it is very KF for it to be proven that Phil used his own, documented phone number to register the TheyCallMeDSP account and you still have some people saying, "Well yeah, it looks bad, but maybe someone stole Phil's phone, confirmed the account, then snuck the phone back into Phil's house and pretended to be him in a mobile game for the next few years...."

 

[UncleTusky]

Big boy joined a new faction.

Paging @Nigel of Ukip

These point numbers look lower than Phil's (I thought he had like 1-2 million last we checked). Does the point counter reset after events or when you move factions?

I'm not questioning our Top Autists I'm trying to figure out why he's not on the leaderboard already.

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Agree 100%, but it is very KF for it to be proven that Phil used his own, documented phone number to register the TheyCallMeDSP account and you still have some people saying, "Well yeah, it looks bad, but maybe someone stole Phil's phone, confirmed the account, then snuck the phone back into Phil's house and pretended to be him in a mobile game for the next few years...."

Don't forget the part where the troll spent tens of thousands of dollars in less than four years.

This is the other thing that separates this from "Mystery Woman" in my opinion, whatever the Bronsgeests did to commandeer + maintain that site was probably inexpensive and looking up Phil's tweets + flight data is free. If somebody actually spent $40,000 or got hired at Scopely just to impersonate Phil then we're talking about gay ops that would put Fred Fuchs to shame. Somebody that dedicated to fucking with Phil could get more results with bullshit lawsuits, whatever it is SuperHound does for DMCA claims, you get the idea, all without wasting a year's salary.