WWE Champions General - Despite his claims, DSP is still spending thousands of dollars on the WWE Champions mobile game

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I suppose the possibility of a "detractor" buying his debt is pretty hilarious.
His bankruptcy application looking as authentic as a third-grader forging their dad’s signature on a report card and him thinking he would get away with it has provided a lot of entertainment, even before the CitiBank troll.
 
Well, tonight Phil repeatedly referred to the detractor stuff going on right now, quite carefully, as 'nonsense' and only as 'nonsense'.
The last time he did this was with the foreclosure; he later clarified that he never said it was wrong or a lie, he said it was 'nonsense'.

Make of that what you will.
 
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Well, tonight Phil repeatedly referred to the detractor stuff going on right now, quite carefully, as 'nonsense' and only as 'nonsense'.
The last time he did that with the foreclosure; he later clarified that he never said it was wrong or a lie, he said it was 'nonsense'.

Make of that what you will.

the origin of two of my favorite DSP logic-enders;
“I never lied because I never addressed it! You’re the idiots who believed it!” and “it’s totally false I don’t need more help! In fact I need more help than ever!”
 
Ngl, I was 5% doubt on this whole thing before the mod messages came out, not because I'm a DSP cuck, or I was cautious because of the escort shit.

But how is anyone possibly retarded enough to do this? Dude puts himself through 6 hours of misery everyday, talking to people he hates, playing games he doesn't like and shilling the crap out of a shitty vest just to throw it away at shitty PS2 quality JPGs in an app that's barely even bothering to pretend it's a game??

It's like the only thing that can get this guy remotely hard is by flaunting his epeen to randos in a discord server. I bet he doesn't even dip his toe into the small-talk channels and only drops in to flex to people that has no relevance to his life.

Un-real
 
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Ngl, I was 5% doubt on this whole thing before the mod messages came out, not because I'm a DSP cuck, or I was cautious because of the escort shit.

But how is anyone possibly exceptional enough to do this? Dude puts himself through 6 hours of misery everyday, talking to people he hates, playing games he doesn't like and shilling the crap out of a shitty vest just to throw it away at shitty PS2 quality JPGs in an app that's barely even bothering to pretend it's a game??

It's like the only thing that can get this guy remotely hard is by flaunting his epeen to randos in a discord server. I bet he doesn't even dip his role into the small-talk channels and only drops in to flex to people that has no relevance to his life.

Un-real
In my eyes, when trying to figure out what this guy—a guy who has no hobbies, no friends, no stories to tell, no conversational ability whatsoever, who has never travelled anywhere, who ‘doesn't care’ about anything—does with his money and free time, it's the ONLY thing that makes sense. Nothing has made more sense to me in the world of DSP than him spending all of his money and time on this perfect manifestation of cultural death in America
 
Yeah was just trying to explain that even if you change your nickname the profile name with number stays the same.

Also afaik you can't change icons (or at least I've never found a way to) which is why it matching makes sense instead of being gay ops.
You def can change your icon(I’m you mean profile picture. And I’m definitely sure you can change the name next to the numbers

E: I’m exceptional, thought he meant in general
 
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Putting all your eggs in the 2004 or dismissal basket is gonna be a bad time.

Like most lolcow's here Phil has achieved the survivorship bias threshold of skating along just managing to not fuck up enough to ever have repercussions.

Its safer to assume he'll get his chapter 7 and keep the WAkondo and provide us years of entertainment being a gacha addict manbaby streamer.

The real fun will be whenever this game stops being supported and Phil realizes in some small corner of his brain he's spent nearly six figures on nothing.
the way that people talk about 'pigroach luck' on this site has always felt kind of off, and i think i'm starting to realize why.

over and over people proclaim that "THIS will be the end of DSP!!" over little things like being banned from blip or being removed from machinima and then being sorely disappointed when it doesn't work out the way they envisioned, but i think the people who do such a thing are really overlooking some very important truth. each of these bans and removals is inconsequential to the grand scheme of things. his bans from adsense and twitch would surely have been sore losses if they'd stuck, but people seem to overlook the fact that both of those platforms benefit directly from having Phil remain on them and using them, as they get a direct cut of profits he makes. why on earth would they fret about some dude who streams to >300 people every day and yet has over double that in total subscriber numbers? their return on investment with Phil is insane, and with his low attendance it's very easy for his gaffes and stupid rants to go unnoticed by the public at large, meaning that he's not even particularly risky to keep around.

the key difference between Phil losing one of his platforms and this bankruptcy, however, are that for the first time, some very powerful forces have a vested, monetary interest in taking him for all they can get. Banks don't just look the other way when you try and swindle them of 30k+ in debt, and Nancy also gets very real monetary motivation to pursue every avenue available through which Phil's debt can be paid back. a large part of Phil's arrogance still going into this likely has to do with the fact that he's never been faced with this sort of situation, and has no idea just who he's trying to steal from.

tl;dr 'pigroach luck' was never a thing, people just assumed that minor setbacks were going to sink him and now he's faced with an actual monster that threatens to upend his entire way of life yet people (and Phil) convince themselves that because nothing stopped him before, this time won't be any different.
 
tl;dr 'pigroach luck' was never a thing, people just assumed that minor setbacks were going to sink him and now he's faced with an actual monster that threatens to upend his entire way of life yet people (and Phil) convince themselves that because nothing stopped him before, this time won't be any different.

I'll see you in 8 months when Phil's chapter 7 is completed, his 120k in debt gone, his underwater condo gone, yes his ps4/xbox and statues gone but replaced with the brand new ps5/xbox 2 that his fans bought him out of pity (and the new oled tv) as him jasper and kat stream away in their middle unit triplex as a happy fucking pigroach horse hybrid family. and in 10 years, Dark starts the cycle again.

pigroach luck is fucking real, dont doubt it

PS. I think this is 100% him but I am not sure I believe the money spent estimates, they seem a bit high and i have seen people saying for example some contest was $3k for sure and then someone who actually plays the game comes in and says it could be done for $300. How many of those does it take to inflate this account? IDK, i dont play shit mobile games. I believe most likely Phil was spending barely nothing on this game before the October, at least compared to now, i dont think this game made him go bankrupt at all, i think its just what he is chosing to burn his money on now so the banks dont get it. i think i asked before and people showed his spending went up big time after october (when he stopped paying his debts and had thousands extra a month now). Its perfect phil to not let the banks take a dime of his money and the most creative way he can think of is to just waste it in his favorite gacha game LOL
 
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PS. I think this is 100% him but I am not sure I believe the money spent estimates, they seem a bit high and i have seen people saying for example some contest was $3k for sure and then someone who actually plays the game comes in and says it could be done for $300. How many of those does it take to inflate this account? IDK, i dont play shit mobile games. I believe most likely Phil was spending barely nothing on this game before the October, at least compared to now, i dont think this game made him go bankrupt at all, i think its just what he is chosing to burn his money on now so the banks dont get it. i think i asked before and people showed his spending went up big time after october (when he stopped paying his debts and had thousands extra a month now). Its perfect phil to not let the banks take a dime of his money and the most creative way he can think of is to just waste it in his favorite gacha game LOL
The way most mobile games work are basically the same idea.

The game is free to download. Sounds good so far. Then they blast you with offers to buy gold or diamonds or whatever they call in game currency. You will pass on that, you're not a sucker, right?

The gameplay is simple and the stages are easy. You gain levels like crazy. Why would you spend money on this? I've only played an hour and I'm already level 20!

Then you hit the wall. You literally make little to no progress in the game unless you spend money. You need to buy items to upgrade tour equipment, or you ran out of stamina that let's you keep playing.

I want to beat this stupid stage but I can't! Ok, fine I will buy $5 worth of diamonds.

Then you can't win because other people are buying diamonds too and are way stronger. So you buy more diamonds to beat them. Then they buy more to beat you. Ad nauseam. Before too long the only way to progress is by spending hundreds of dollars.

Crazy, I know. People could have a brand new television, new game console, and the newest games and instead spend money on buying pixels in a phone game.

Theoretically Phil could get 3000 points in this WWE game over a weekend, bit he would have to be playing nonstop. He is on camera for way too many hours a day to accomplish this. The only way would be to pay to win.
 
I'll see you in 8 months when Phil's chapter 7 is completed, his 120k in debt gone, his underwater condo gone, yes his ps4/xbox and statues gone but replaced with the brand new ps5/xbox 2 that his fans bought him out of pity (and the new oled tv) as him jasper and kat stream away in their middle unit triplex as a happy fucking pigroach horse hybrid family. and in 10 years, Dark starts the cycle again.

pigroach luck is fucking real, dont doubt it

This why I always tend to believe that he'll be okay no matter what happens. I guess I get a bit cynical with the outcomes of people like him.
 
In an autistic thought process, a voice from my shoulder, tells me this could still be partially fake. Someone who is bored and doesn't care for any party and just Photoshops for the LOLs could just invest some time in his quarantine shelter. This doesn't need to fulfill a purpose, this doesn't need to make sense, boredom is a strong motivator.
All he has to do is take real leaks but change Phil's avatar, maybe the name, and fake the user information. That's not a lot of work.

I'm 99% convinced those leaks are real and Phil burns money in WWE Champions. 1% to doubt for the pool of autism. A video usually kills those doubts, but I'm not sure the originators would go to this additional effort.
 
In an autistic thought process, a voice from my shoulder, tells me this could still be partially fake. Someone who is bored and doesn't care for any party and just Photoshops for the LOLs could just invest some time in his quarantine shelter. This doesn't need to fulfill a purpose, this doesn't need to make sense, boredom is a strong motivator.
All he has to do is take real leaks but change Phil's avatar, maybe the name, and fake the user information. That's not a lot of work.

I'm 99% convinced those leaks are real and Phil burns money in WWE Champions. 1% to doubt for the pool of autism. A video usually kills those doubts, but I'm not sure the originators would go to this additional effort.

I'm still amazed people still have some level of skepticism about all this, maybe the Discord leaks sound too convenient, and that's not enough proof... but you gotta keep in mind that yes, this thread has gotten long, and some of the pages do consist of other doubters and people debating if this could REALLY be DSP so it's a lot to read through, but there's been too many things brought up in this thread to ignore.

He has a history with mobile games, specifically another WWE-themed mobile game called WWE SuperCard. He was stupid enough to post on the official forums for the game under his own name and it didn't take long for detractors to find out. People started putting things together in regards to his stream behavior and noted that he specifically cancelled a stream or two in the past because he chose to grind all night for a SuperCard event instead. When he got called out on this, he was pissed off but also straight up admitted that he played the game during breaks to brag about the fact that nobody "noticed" him doing it. Makes a lot more sense as to what he could possibly be doing during his 30+ minute breaks now, right? Old habits die hard and I guarantee you he's still doing it. It's been proven that his participation in WWE Champions-related events goes up on the leaderboards when he's either on break or not streaming, and especially on his days off. When the camera's off, he's clicking away on his phone.

He gets upset whenever anyone brings the game up and tries to act like people are speaking gibberish. Despite the fact that he's admitted to playing the game on his stream, you're not allowed to discuss it there now. Why? Because he realized he fucked up with his mobile game yet again and wants to keep his spending hush-hush, lest his paypigs discover the truth (although at this point I'm not sure how many of them would actually stop giving him money)

It's difficult to pin down how much money he's spent, estimations on every event have been all over the place but whenever a new wrestler gets added, it's almost always pay to get a chance to unlock them, and Phil always pays because we can see his character roster growing. He must have everything, he must get the respect of his (not-so) secret faction. While the exact amount won't be known unless we ever see his PayPal receipts, people have done the math to determine how many VIP points are needed to get the highest VIP rank of 13, which Phil just happens to have. We know he spent a minimum of $40,000 just to get there, and at this point that's a conservative total if you factor in that he's been spending more since then. If there was a rank above 13, he might just have it. https://www.reddit.com/r/WWEChampions/comments/881f0b/cost_to_advance_each_vip_tier/

And unlike what people might want to believe about Discord screenshots being faked or whatever... the account VIP level of whoever owns the TheyCallMeDSP account in WWE Champions is not faked. Anyone with the game can verify it for themselves by searching under the Faction section for the "Uselessness" faction, and then clicking on his profile (he's ranked 2nd in the faction, meaning that someone other than him has a higher total talent level for their roster and I'm sure that's eating him up inside).

Some people may still want to say that's not him, that somebody else chose to use that name and just happened to completely whale out on the game and play it all the times DSP isn't busy streaming. Anybody who thinks this is a long con, that somebody chose that name on purpose to "own" the detractors, by spending $40,000 of their own money instead of just giving it straight to DSP himself, is a fucking loon. There's too much time and money invested in that account, and it belongs to someone who doesn't want to publically admit it's theirs.
 
To explain what VIP levels are to those people who don't play mobile games. VIP 100% costs money.

In some games they "hook" players by giving a free VIP membership for like a week. This gives you some small bonus in games like you get to open a free loot box once a day or you get more points than normal or whatever. Once the week is up, you don't get that free box or you notice you're not getting as many points. Oh shit, better buy that VIP again.

Each level gives you more bonus garbage and obviously costs more. I don't know if the VIP in WWE is time based like some games or not. If it is, Phil has to continually pay every time it expires to keep his cool and fun benefits.
 
To explain what VIP levels are to those people who don't play mobile games. VIP 100% costs money.

In some games they "hook" players by giving a free VIP membership for like a week. This gives you some small bonus in games like you get to open a free loot box once a day or you get more points than normal or whatever. Once the week is up, you don't get that free box or you notice you're not getting as many points. Oh shit, better buy that VIP again.

Each level gives you more bonus garbage and obviously costs more. I don't know if the VIP in WWE is time based like some games or not. If it is, Phil has to continually pay every time it expires to keep his cool and fun benefits.
As far as I understand it, the VIP rank grows with the amount of money spent (or ingame currecny bought / spent). It is to signal other players "it's ok to spend money, others do it too". Like a twitch prime batch. I don't know if the VIP rank had any impact on the game other than paypig epenis.
I think there is a seperate premium function you jave to pay monthly. But it's all from memory from stuff I read here, I don't play the game.
 
tl;dr 'pigroach luck' was never a thing, people just assumed that minor setbacks were going to sink him and now he's faced with an actual monster that threatens to upend his entire way of life yet people (and Phil) convince themselves that because nothing stopped him before, this time won't be any different.

Yeah, one thing people forget when talking about Phil is that most people have some amount of shame they are unwilling to let go of, so when shit gets so unbearable and embarassing, they'll tap out and move on with their lives. If Phil ever had that, he sold it along with his soul a long time ago. When shit goes wrong for him, it hurts him, but he just goes lower and begs harder. If he got banned from Twitch tomorrow, he'd survive by going to YouTube and crying to his paypigs who would feel bad for him and give him donations, and he'd cry to Twitch support and tell some minimum wage contract worker every bad thing that ever happened to him and every time he stubbed his toe until the guy just gives him what he wants to get him to hang up, because he doesn't have that part of him that is too ashamed to cry like a four year old who didn't get a Wolverine toy. Finally, he's facing a system designed to not respond to shit like that and I truly think he's going to get a rude awakening. Maybe not go to prison rude, but he's going to face someone who will not settle for his whining and will demand cold hard proof, and he can't cry away $40K+ in microtransactions to Scopely.
 
As far as I understand it, the VIP rank grows with the amount of money spent (or ingame currecny bought / spent). It is to signal other players "it's ok to spend money, others do it too". Like a twitch prime batch. I don't know if the VIP rank had any impact on the game other than paypig epenis.
I think there is a seperate premium function you jave to pay monthly. But it's all from memory from stuff I read here, I don't play the game.
The reddit post shows you get +55% points at VIP 13. It costs almost $39,000 to get to level VIP 13 from even level VIP 8...


Edit: reading some of the comments on there. It's people getting mad that the game changed companies or something and some of the whales lost VIP levels. One guy said he spent $1,500 and only got to VIP 6.

Nobody in the comments is saying this $40,000 number is false. They are saying it costs too much. If Phil is VIP 13 he did spend almost forty thousand American dollars to look at sweaty half naked man pixels.
 
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As far as I understand it, the VIP rank grows with the amount of money spent (or ingame currecny bought / spent). It is to signal other players "it's ok to spend money, others do it too". Like a twitch prime batch. I don't know if the VIP rank had any impact on the game other than paypig epenis.
I think there is a seperate premium function you jave to pay monthly. But it's all from memory from stuff I read here, I don't play the game.

Each VIP rank gives you more of things like health boosts, random lootboxes after a match is over, autoclear tickets to win matches without playing them at all, etc.

Apparently your VIP rank means nothing if you don't have an active monthly membership. They start at $9.99 a month and go up to $49.99 a month, I think. Chump change for vest boy.
 
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