WWE Champions General - Despite his claims, DSP is still spending thousands of dollars on the WWE Champions mobile game

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tzgnilki said:
everything filed in a bankruptcy case is public record

hopefully this means bank statements where we'll see once and for all if there are massive payments going to apple, unless he was buying apple store gift cards with cash
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Even if he was buying those with cash, there would be a massive amount of withdrawals from ATMs on bank statements or suspiciously high Fred Meyer totals indicating he would get cash back every time he shopped there. Knowing how lazy Phil is, I can't see him doing either of those things just to get his precious wrasslin' pulls.
 
darkwingosonichugorl said:
I wonder why Phil is so in denial about this. I guess it's because he thinks it would deter paypigs, but I really doubt the regulars would care. He keeps saying he quit before he was with Kathy, so it's not her. It's weird that Phil gets so triggered over a mobile game addiction compared to the other dramas that include real life things.
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Because it would mean he was lying about how he spent all of the money donated to him, and not only was he lying but the money went to mobile games, and not only did it go to mobile games but he spent to the extent that he had to declare bankruptcy. He'd look like the biggest idiot on earth. I do agree that if he was honest from the start (ha ha) he could have fooled his fanbase and probably switched to playing the mobile games he's hooked on for his viewers, but that ship has sailed.
 
Ching_Chong said:
Would his bankruptcy and his finances being public show his transactions for this game or no?

If so, Phil, you may as well admit it's you if it does.
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Normally they will just list the issuing bank as the creditor rather than itemizing the charges. The filing would probably have a single item like "Visa Credit Cards, $some huge amount" rather than some huge number of entries reading "WWE on Apple Store - Charged to Visa - $micropayment".
 
The charges for purchases made on my Android show up as "Scopely" on my credit card statement.

I would assume that you wouldn't get to see specific charges in a bankruptcy filing, but the totality of the whole thing should be pretty amazing.
 
Ching_Chong said:
Would his bankruptcy and his finances being public show his transactions for this game or no?

If so, Phil, you may as well admit it's you if it does.
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He'd probably only file the balances on the credit cards and it would be up to the creditors to challenge them. If he files a Chapter 13 he'll be under more obligation to explain exactly what his monthly expenses are, though, and there's no streaming excuse for spending tens of thousands of dollars on half-naked pixel dudes to rub one out to.

twattycake said:
Normally they will just list the issuing bank as the creditor rather than itemizing the charges. The filing would probably have a single item like "Visa Credit Cards, $some huge amount" rather than some huge number of entries reading "WWE on Apple Store - Charged to Visa - $micropayment".
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Anything that has a substantial unexplained block of money is going to need to be explained.

Also one of the main things filed in a bankruptcy is a "creditor matrix." This is a list of all his creditors along with contact information. I think you can see what's likely to happen with that information. I just think some people, good people I'm sure, will be helpful to the people in that matrix with information about his actual expenditures, out of pure altruism.
 
Guess bankruptcy affects guild ranks too.
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"creditor matrix"

Phil: "You mean I can dodge responsibility?"

The sentient gout that's guided him all along: "When you're ready, you won't have to"
 
Red Bistro said:
From Officer to Recruit? How far a drop is that? Sounds like a hefty demotion.
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If it's anything like guilds in other games... It just means he loses some guild managing privileges like accepting new members, initiating raids/feuds, kicking members, or sending guild-wide mails.

Watch him get pissy about it in the discord that he doesn't know how to use.
 
First of all there is no way the lawyer did not reccomend Phil selling his WAkhando in order to help clean off his debt.
 
I registered just for this topic. It’s my time to shine....

I played WWE Champions for about a good year 2016 to mid 2017, I spent probably $600-$700 on the game including 3 $99 unsuccessful gacha pulls(pulls that that at the time gave you something like 30x tries for the featured wrestler but most of the time you got garbage or duplicates and I indeed got garbage and duplicates every single time) and the rest of the money was spent on either smaller pulls or in game items/currency to boost my existing roster. I had the good sense to stop playing Scopely’s game.

After a year of almost daily playing for several hours per day and pretty much all day during Team Events(which coincided with my days off from work at the time) I had a decent but not great roster built from countless hours of hard work and a decent amount of money spent, but this game really separates people based on how much money they spent, more than any game I’ve ever seen. If you played this game for any amount of time, you could tell just from viewing someone’s roster of characters whether they were a big fat whale,(tens of thousands) a mid sized whale(maybe a few thousand spent), a big fish(someone like me who spent a few hundred) or someone who was free to play.

Spending money is no guarantee in this game, but the odds of good pulls from gacha are so low, if someone has more than 1 or 2 featured wrestlers, they’re at the very least a mid sized whale. And even if you spend a ton of money and get lucky to get featured wrestlers, you still have to invest a lot of time into leveling them up. This is where the REAL big fat whales come in, because Scopely doesn’t just sell gacha for their wrestlers, they also sell gacha for their in game items to level up and enhance those wrestlers. And there’s different ways to enhance them, and each way has items that are sold as gacha bags. So say a unique item is needed to upgrade someone from say a 3 star gold to a 4 star bronze? You betcha there’s a gacha bag for that item. Need some gold to level them up first so you can upgrade them to begin with? Don’t worry, they got gacha bags for gold too ranging from a small amount to a big amount of gold.

And even after spending a lot of money in the game, you still need to work hard, very hard. Especially if you want to get on the leaderboard like DSP. From what I’ve seen from the screenshots posted here of DSP’s team event rosters and his Top 16 wrestlers, I think $40k might be an understatement, especially from someone like him who wants to save time so he can beg for more money on stream. I would not be shocked to hear it’s double what is being suspected.
 
I played WWE Champions said:
I registered just for this topic. It’s my time to shine....

I played WWE Champions for about a good year 2016 to mid 2017, I spent probably $600-$700 on the game including 3 $99 unsuccessful gacha pulls(pulls that that at the time gave you something like 30x tries for the featured wrestler but most of the time you got garbage or duplicates and I indeed got garbage and duplicates every single time) and the rest of the money was spent on either smaller pulls or in game items/currency to boost my existing roster. I had the good sense to stop playing Scopely’s game.

After a year of almost daily playing for several hours per day and pretty much all day during Team Events(which coincided with my days off from work at the time) I had a decent but not great roster built from countless hours of hard work and a decent amount of money spent, but this game really separates people based on how much money they spent, more than any game I’ve ever seen. If you played this game for any amount of time, you could tell just from viewing someone’s roster of characters whether they were a big fat whale,(tens of thousands) a mid sized whale(maybe a few thousand spent), a big fish(someone like me who spent a few hundred) or someone who was free to play.

Spending money is no guarantee in this game, but the odds of good pulls from gacha are so low, if someone has more than 1 or 2 featured wrestlers, they’re at the very least a mid sized whale. And even if you spend a ton of money and get lucky to get featured wrestlers, you still have to invest a lot of time into leveling them up. This is where the REAL big fat whales come in, because Scopely doesn’t just sell gacha for their wrestlers, they also sell gacha for their in game items to level up and enhance those wrestlers. And there’s different ways to enhance them, and each way has items that are sold as gacha bags. So say a unique item is needed to upgrade someone from say a 3 star gold to a 4 star bronze? You betcha there’s a gacha bag for that item. Need some gold to level them up first so you can upgrade them to begin with? Don’t worry, they got gacha bags for gold too ranging from a small amount to a big amount of gold.

And even after spending a lot of money in the game, you still need to work hard, very hard. Especially if you want to get on the leaderboard like DSP. From what I’ve seen from the screenshots posted here of DSP’s team event rosters and his Top 16 wrestlers, I think $40k might be an understatement, especially from someone like him who wants to save time so he can beg for more money on stream. I would not be shocked to hear it’s double what is being suspected.
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Do you need any actual skill to play this game or are the leaderboards based entirely on your roster? How does that element work? If I know one thing about DSP it’s that he terrible at video games and is super insecure about that (seeing as he claims to make a professional living off something he sucks at).
 
There is no skill at all involved in the game. It is a Bejeweled game much like Puzzle Quest. You match the color gems that you need to pull off a wrestling move. The elements are actually just Class Types and are not all that important but they do give multipliers against each other, so for example a Striker(black) does more damage against a Trickster(Purple) but does less damage to and is weak to a Showboat(yellow) to each Class Type has an advantage and weakness against another class.

But at the end of the day that doesn’t matter at the top levels because even an OP character Trickster like Seth Rollins has moves that made him a 1 or 2 turn killer against even Strikers who he’s weak to because certain moves are just overpowered.

So while there are strengths and weaknesses, what you really want are specific characters that you can only obtain through spending big time money. Not only that, but they’ll release big name wrestlers who even just have average moves(I don’t know what Hulk Hogan’s moveset was because that came out long after I stopped playing, but I saw he had Ric Flair who sucked in the game) and people will spend lots of money just to get those new big name wrestlers to show off.

There are also events that are Era or Character specific. So some events you may need a team of Tricksters. Or you may need a team from the Attitude Era. So you need to fill out your roster with as many people as you can, and most people who aren’t whales have to just build those wrestlers up from lower star characters who aren’t as good.

The leaderboards during the events however are in indication that Phil plays all day when he’s not streaming during these events, even if you spend money, if you’re near the top of the leaderboard you have spent every waking moment playing the game, because you have to face off against other factions or against NPCs during these events to get points. You cannot buy points, though you can buy things like medpacks(there are gachas for these too) to heal up so you can play faster
 
I played WWE Champions said:
There is no skill at all involved in the game. It is a Bejeweled game much like Puzzle Quest. You match the color gems that you need to pull off a wrestling move. The elements are actually just Class Types and are not all that important but they do give multipliers against each other, so for example a Striker(black) does more damage against a Trickster(Purple) but does less damage to and is weak to a Showboat(yellow) to each Class Type has an advantage and weakness against another class.

But at the end of the day that doesn’t matter at the top levels because even an OP character Trickster like Seth Rollins has moves that made him a 1 or 2 turn killer against even Strikers who he’s weak to because certain moves are just overpowered.

So while there are strengths and weaknesses, what you really want are specific characters that you can only obtain through spending big time money. Not only that, but they’ll release big name wrestlers who even just have average moves(I don’t know what Hulk Hogan’s moveset was because that came out long after I stopped playing, but I saw he had Ric Flair who sucked in the game) and people will spend lots of money just to get those new big name wrestlers to show off.

There are also events that are Era or Character specific. So some events you may need a team of Tricksters. Or you may need a team from the Attitude Era. So you need to fill out your roster with as many people as you can, and most people who aren’t whales have to just build those wrestlers up from lower star characters who aren’t as good.

The leaderboards during the events however are in indication that Phil plays all day when he’s not streaming during these events, even if you spend money, if you’re near the top of the leaderboard you have spent every waking moment playing the game, because you have to face off against other factions or against NPCs during these events to get points. You cannot buy points, though you can buy things like medpacks(there are gachas for these too) to heal up so you can play faster
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So it’s Wrestle-wrestle Candy Crush. Got it.
 
I played WWE Champions said:
There is no skill at all involved in the game. It is a Bejeweled game much like Puzzle Quest. You match the color gems that you need to pull off a wrestling move. The elements are actually just Class Types and are not all that important but they do give multipliers against each other, so for example a Striker(black) does more damage against a Trickster(Purple) but does less damage to and is weak to a Showboat(yellow) to each Class Type has an advantage and weakness against another class.

But at the end of the day that doesn’t matter at the top levels because even an OP character Trickster like Seth Rollins has moves that made him a 1 or 2 turn killer against even Strikers who he’s weak to because certain moves are just overpowered.

So while there are strengths and weaknesses, what you really want are specific characters that you can only obtain through spending big time money. Not only that, but they’ll release big name wrestlers who even just have average moves(I don’t know what Hulk Hogan’s moveset was because that came out long after I stopped playing, but I saw he had Ric Flair who sucked in the game) and people will spend lots of money just to get those new big name wrestlers to show off.

There are also events that are Era or Character specific. So some events you may need a team of Tricksters. Or you may need a team from the Attitude Era. So you need to fill out your roster with as many people as you can, and most people who aren’t whales have to just build those wrestlers up from lower star characters who aren’t as good.
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That is actually the showboat version of Ric Flair who is very strong with the correct trainers.

Aside from that, pretty much spot on with everything.
 
BT9494 said:
That is actually the showboat version of Ric Flair who is very strong with the correct trainers.

Aside from that, pretty much spot on with everything.
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Oh well it has been a while....I’ve tried to put the wrestle-wrestle candy crush out of my mind

I quit playing mobile games altogether and now only play console games. Almost all single player ones....try to avoid multiplayer since those have loot boxes.
 
Honestly, I am just in shock. I mean, I tend to assume that people like this tend to get away with what they've done/haven't done, but I guess that's not the case for him. He spent ALL that money on ANY game? Jesus...

People have been talking about a "downfall" for years. Looks like it's finally happening unless he is saved. I'm guessing his parents will bail him out. Someone always bails him out.
 
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