WWE Champions General - Despite his claims, DSP is still spending thousands of dollars on the WWE Champions mobile game

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tzgnilki said:
dsp in the top 25 for a "spend mtx for prizes" event

I think it's more important now to try and keep track of this, then we can hopefully match it up to his finances when they're made public

spending for this event would be 15-16 Jan 2020

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With Phil officially declaring bankruptcy, would this spending not be considered fraud? I'm really unfamiliar with the whole process, but if he intends to not payoff his CC debts, he would still be liable to pay for these microtransactions if they exceed a certain amount. This is just a random article on Luxury Items and Bankruptcy:

Credit Card Charges for Luxury Items
"The presumptive fraud rule prevents a debtor from discharging credit card purchases from one creditor for luxury items made within 90 days of a bankruptcy filing if the total amount of those charges is greater than $725. (This figure is accurate for cases filed between April 1, 2019, and March 31, 2022.)

Any lavish purchases made on credit during the 90 days before the bankruptcy filing are presumed to be fraudulent. The creditor doesn’t have to present evidence to the court that there was no intent to pay at the time that the purchases were made to prove fraud. As long as the debtor made the purchases in the 90-day period, the creditor need only file an adversary proceeding (lawsuit in the bankruptcy court called a complaint to determine dischargeability).

While it is technically the creditor's burden to show that the purchases were for luxury items, you are often stuck with the debt unless you can convince the court that the purchases were not for luxury items. If you challenge the creditor’s characterization of a particular charge as a luxury item, the judge will make the determination after a trial on the matter."
 
subtleT said:
While it is technically the creditor's burden to show that the purchases were for luxury items, you are often stuck with the debt unless you can convince the court that the purchases were not for luxury items. If you challenge the creditor’s characterization of a particular charge as a luxury item, the judge will make the determination after a trial on the matter."
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And they won't take it from the WWE gacha game either, they'll just view that part of the debt as nondischargeable and Phil will have to cough it up.
 
I wonder why Phil is so in denial about this. I guess it's because he thinks it would deter paypigs, but I really doubt the regulars would care. He keeps saying he quit before he was with Kathy, so it's not her. It's weird that Phil gets so triggered over a mobile game addiction compared to the other dramas that include real life things.
 
I like how in his 'Fuck you' rant he low-key admitted he still has an active WWE Champions account with the app installed on his phone that he could easily pull up and show at any moment.

Phil is a fucking mobile game addict. In his own words in this rant: he played WWE SuperCard (and sank several thousand into the game), in the 1st clip he says "I got really addicted to it", he then got disgusted when the game introduced 'Season 2' and Season 1 cards could not be used in match-ups against Season 2 cards, he describes quitting the game 'cold turkey' (even though he had multiple other mobile games he was still playing at the time), and a year after quitting he reinstalled the game to play it again! He also lied about quitting the game in this 1st clip after he got exposed and didn't actually quit for 6 more months.

WWE SuperCard released August 14th 2014 and Phil, in his own words, played it for a year, then quit because of season 2. Phil was playing WWE SuperCard from release day.
WWE SuperCard season 2 released around August 2015, so Phil went back to WWE SuperCard late 2016 to play again.

He also played WWE Immortals, a mobile game which released January 15th 2015. The date in this 1st clip he admits to playing this game 1½ months after release, he was likely playing this game since launch day too. In the 2nd clip from March 8th 2016 Phil is lamenting these fun WWE games he used to play. . .and then he remembered HearthStone so he thought he'd check that out.

Guess what game launched March 8th 2016? WWE motherfucking Champions. Phil is wishing he had a fun WWE mobile game to play. . .the day WWE Champions launched. So we have Phil who has a history of keeping up with new WWE mobile games, and a Discord account with the exact same handle as his Twitter and Instagram and Marvel: Final Fight account and etc. claiming they've had the account since launch day.

In the first 2 years Phil may have only spent $2K to $3K on the game per year, just like he did in WWE SuperCard, but with the WWE Champions update adding up to VIP lvl 13 Phil has likely spent $10K or more per year on this game in 2018 and 2019. That would be around $250 per week or a little more, or as Phil would call it "pissing money".
 
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Prince Lotor said:
I like how in his 'Fuck you' rant he low-key admitted he still has an active WWE Champions account with the app installed on his phone that he could easily pull up and show at any moment.

Phil is a fucking mobile game addict. In his own words in this rant: he played WWE SuperCard (and sank several thousand into the game), he got disgusted when the game introduced 'Season 2' and reset everyone's progress to zero, he describes quitting the game 'cold turkey' (even though he had multiple other mobile games he was still playing at the time), and a year after quitting he reinstalled the game to play it again! He also lied about quitting the game when he got exposed and didn't actually quit for many more months.

WWE SuperCard released August 14th 2014 and Phil, in his own words, played it for a year, then quit because of season 2. Phil was playing WWE SuperCard from release day.
WWE SuperCard season 2 released around August 2015, so Phil went back to WWE SuperCard late 2016 to play again.

He also played WWE Immortals, a mobile game which released January 15th 2015. The date in this 1st clip he admits to playing this game 1½ months after release, he was likely playing this game since launch day. In the 2nd clip from March 8th 2016 Phil is lamenting these WWE games he use to play. . .and then he remembered HearthStone so he thought he'd check that out.

Guess what game launched March 8th 2016? WWE motherfucking Champions. Phil is wishing he had a fun WWE mobile game to play. . .the day WWE Champions launched. So we have Phil who has a history of keeping up with new WWE mobile games, and a Discord account with the exact same handle as his Twitter and Instagram and Marvel: Final Fight account and etc. claiming they've had the account since launch day.

In the first 2 years Phil may have only spent $2K to $3K on the game per year, just like he did in WWE SuperCard, but with the WWE Champions update adding up to VIP lvl 13 Phil has likely spent $10K or more per year on this game in 2018 and 2019, and it's possibly the only mobile game he plays anymore. That would be around $250 per week or a little more, or as Phil would call it "pissing money".
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the VIP function in wwe champions was released in two parts, first was level 1-8, then it was upped from 8-13 at a different date, and rewards wern't retroactively applied

he could possibly have been after the initial level 8 cap and got no VIP levels from it
 
Phil just said again that he has no interest in starting a Discord because he doesn't want to have to learn new software. Twitch chat is good enough.

Curious, then, having it on your desktop.
 
Some 'troll' just asked Phil to debunk the rumour that he played mobile games on the plane.
Phil said yes, he could.
You see... he did play mobile games on the flight.

That's apparently what passes for debunking... when it debunks the thing YOU lied about...
But Phil went on to explain that it was 'random mobile games' including a fishing one. But he DID NOT play the game that he 'supposedly spent $140k on.'

Now he's bitching that people take him too literally. For example "I never played mobile games after my wife moved in!" "Well, of course I played a few since then."
"People will take whatever I say, and always turn it into something so messed up that it makes me look like the villian."

So, in conclusion, I guess never assume Phil is ever telling you the full truth. That's actually pretty reasonable advice.

EDIT: People aren't supposed to remember things that he said in previous podcasts and single them out to call him a liar. Everything has a logical explanation, but we turn it into something insane.
For some reason, asking for the logical explanation merits a meltdown though.
 
darkwingosonichugorl said:
I wonder why Phil is so in denial about this. I guess it's because he thinks it would deter paypigs, but I really doubt the regulars would care. He keeps saying he quit before he was with Kathy, so it's not her. It's weird that Phil gets so triggered over a mobile game addiction compared to the other dramas that include real life things.
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While it is by no means the only reason he gets by, part of what appeals to Phil's paypigs is his underdog/victimized status. These ones donate because they think Phil is being bullied for being a true and honest gamer who doesn't shill out to the big man, but that honesty comes at the cost of having his finances destroyed. These paypigs get to feel like they're part of something bigger and important by helping Phil fight back, showing the bullies can't keep him down.

If the truth were to come out, they'd realize that instead of bravely helping Phil endure bullying from an overly dedicated troll community, they're helping him get more virtual scantily clad men rolling on the ground together. That would be bad on its own, but it also turns out his financial difficulties weren't lies either, he just chose to pay for his games instead of being a responsible adult.

Basically, it takes Phil from that scrappy average Joe underdog who just can't get a break because he refuses to be a shill and turns him into a spoiled manchild who would rather throw thousands of dollars into a mobile game of all things.

Phil does have a surprisingly loyal audience, but it isn't an ironclad thing. We've seen him lose plenty of paypigs, both large and small, over similar things. People generally don't like being lied to, especially when the lie takes them from being a hero who is helping someone down on his luck get by with food and rent to someone who is just fueling a game addiction. It's also something that tends to be mocked in gamer communities, which is technically what Phil claims the goutsphere is part of, despite his general lack of gaming skills. Actually, it is double dipping as being part of the wrestling community, which also tends to be mocked by larger audiences.

It also ruins any future begging, because the question would inevitably come up on whether Phil was really paying his bills for the 10th time that week, or if it was going into the next pay to win wrestling event.

What I think makes this whole thing especially funny is Phil is so addicted/invested, he can't stop, even in light of everything coming out on top of his ongoing financial trouble. He's shown if it comes to paying off part of his tax payment plan or pouring money into his mobile game, the game wins out. I'm honestly not sure if he's more worried about losing his condo or losing the ability to keep up in his pay to win games. I mean, we certainly know that up until his financial woes got particularly real, he was prioritizing the game. There are going to be plenty of interesting developments if the bankruptcy saga truly becomes a thing, but I think one of the most interesting things to see is whether it finally makes him cut back on his addiction or if he continues to make it a priority.
 
Cyber Bowling said:
Phil does have a surprisingly loyal audience, but it isn't an ironclad thing. We've seen him lose plenty of paypigs, both large and small, over similar things. People generally don't like being lied to, especially when the lie takes them from being a hero who is helping someone down on his luck get by with food and rent to someone who is just fueling a game addiction. It's also something that tends to be mocked in gamer communities, which is technically what Phil claims the goutsphere is part of, despite his general lack of gaming skills. Actually, it is double dipping as being part of the wrestling community, which also tends to be mocked by larger audiences.

It also ruins any future begging, because the question would inevitably come up on whether Phil was really paying his bills for the 10th time that week, or if it was going into the next pay to win wrestling event.
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He's definitely losing at least some people from this. Mostly because of the blatant lying--there were too many "that's a detractor meme!" and "nonsense" comments over the last month for him to try and retcon it to "I didn't deny it outright, so it's not technically a lie!"

Cyber Bowling said:
What I think makes this whole thing especially funny is Phil is so addicted/invested, he can't stop, even in light of everything coming out on top of his ongoing financial trouble. He's shown if it comes to paying off part of his tax payment plan or pouring money into his mobile game, the game wins out. I'm honestly not sure if he's more worried about losing his condo or losing the ability to keep up in his pay to win games. I mean, we certainly know that up until his financial woes got particularly real, he was prioritizing the game. There are going to be plenty of interesting developments if the bankruptcy saga truly becomes a thing, but I think one of the most interesting things to see is whether it finally makes him cut back on his addiction or if he continues to make it a priority.
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Speaking of.... @tzgnilki and @BT9494, did he log on immediately tonight? He definitely seemed drunk, so it wouldn't surprise me.
 
actually said:
He's definitely losing at least some people from this. Mostly because of the blatant lying--there were too many "that's a detractor meme!" and "nonsense" comments over the last month for him to try and retcon it to "I didn't deny it outright, so it's not technically a lie!"



Speaking of.... @tzgnilki and @BT9494, did he log on immediately tonight? He definitely seemed drunk, so it wouldn't surprise me.
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last seen online 21hrs ago
 
Cyber Bowling said:
He's shown if it comes to paying off part of his tax payment plan or pouring money into his mobile game, the game wins out. I'm honestly not sure if he's more worried about losing his condo or losing the ability to keep up in his pay to win games.
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If he's financially ruined by this it will be like Hulk Hogan taking another victim. First Gawker, now the Pigroach.
 
darkwingosonichugorl said:
I wonder why Phil is so in denial about this. I guess it's because he thinks it would deter paypigs, but I really doubt the regulars would care. He keeps saying he quit before he was with Kathy, so it's not her. It's weird that Phil gets so triggered over a mobile game addiction compared to the other dramas that include real life things.
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spreadsheet meme, gonna try to keep track of his account level, might look cool in a graph in the future maybe

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Ching_Chong said:
Would his bankruptcy and his finances being public show his transactions for this game or no?

If so, Phil, you may as well admit it's you if it does.
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everything filed in a bankruptcy case is public record

hopefully this means bank statements where we'll see once and for all if there are massive payments going to apple, unless he was buying apple store gift cards with cash
 
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