WWE Champions General - Despite his claims, DSP is still spending thousands of dollars on the WWE Champions mobile game

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He was up to 1140 members before the Argentina saga. He thought he had a minimum of $4548 coming in just membershipbux alone at the minimum rate. He has top tier members so...........
So he still has a minimum of $2200 coming from membershipbux plus some, since the Argentinabux are still there. Just not in the form of $2300 more.
Plus he cranked up the ad revenue
 
Don't forget, he also has his ReACK channel and his Thrown back channel. While he currently has only standard members on said channel who knows if there aren't already a few as Phil doesn't show who actually is a member of this channel
 
BPD Gunt Rider said:
TJ is legit with his numbers, I can safely confirm that.

Remember that Phil had 14 (FOURTEEN) sources of credit racking up thousands of debt each. He doesn't care.
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Okay not trying to be an asshole here but how exactly do we know TJ is accurate and by how much? I don't got anything against the guy and obviously phil is spending, but I've never seen detailed info on how he comes by his estimates. I make estimates off the bank leaks and the WWE champions subreddit chart which at least I've seen a more solid foundation for and are still substantial.
 
grump said:
Okay not trying to be an asshole here but how exactly do we know TJ is accurate and by how much? I don't got anything against the guy and obviously phil is spending, but I've never seen detailed info on how he comes by his estimates. I make estimates off the bank leaks and the WWE champions subreddit chart which at least I've seen a more solid foundation for and are still substantial.
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Soooo I've been following TJ's numbers for years now and essentially what he does is he takes the maximum number of points you can get in a contest for FREE and subtracts it from Phil's total. So let's say TJ has 1,000,000 points from just playing the game normally and not pulling Hogans and Phil has 10,000,000. That leaves us with 9,000,000 points that were gained from purchasing packs, tokens, or w/e the fuck they are in that game. From my knowledge, TJ also uses the most efficient/value pack in his calculations, which is probably the $99.99 pack compared to the cheaper packs to calculate how much Phil has spent. In essence, TJ's numbers are on the conservative side all things considered. Phil is likely spending slightly more money, maybe like $50-$100 more per contest than TJ reports. Also, see bank leaks. His numbers are pretty damn close.
 
Little Bill said:
Soooo I've been following TJ's numbers for years now and essentially what he does is he takes the maximum number of points you can get in a contest for FREE and subtracts it from Phil's total. So let's say TJ has 1,000,000 points from just playing the game normally and not pulling Hogans and Phil has 10,000,000. That leaves us with 9,000,000 points that were gained from purchasing packs, tokens, or w/e the fuck they are in that game. From my knowledge, TJ also uses the most efficient/value pack in his calculations, which is probably the $99.99 pack compared to the cheaper packs to calculate how much Phil has spent. In essence, TJ's numbers are on the conservative side all things considered. Phil is likely spending slightly more money, maybe like $50-$100 more per contest than TJ reports. Also, see bank leaks. His numbers are pretty damn close.
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in your honest personal opinion and with the current knowledge: do you believe/not believe/have doubt that it's Phils account?
 
Little Bill said:
Soooo I've been following TJ's numbers for years now and essentially what he does is he takes the maximum number of points you can get in a contest for FREE and subtracts it from Phil's total. So let's say TJ has 1,000,000 points from just playing the game normally and not pulling Hogans and Phil has 10,000,000. That leaves us with 9,000,000 points that were gained from purchasing packs, tokens, or w/e the fuck they are in that game. From my knowledge, TJ also uses the most efficient/value pack in his calculations, which is probably the $99.99 pack compared to the cheaper packs to calculate how much Phil has spent. In essence, TJ's numbers are on the conservative side all things considered. Phil is likely spending slightly more money, maybe like $50-$100 more per contest than TJ reports. Also, see bank leaks. His numbers are pretty damn close.
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Considering the amount of money you've given Phil, you could claim half of his jpeg roster as your own.
 
grump said:
Okay not trying to be an asshole here but how exactly do we know TJ is accurate and by how much? I don't got anything against the guy and obviously phil is spending, but I've never seen detailed info on how he comes by his estimates. I make estimates off the bank leaks and the WWE champions subreddit chart which at least I've seen a more solid foundation for and are still substantial.
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Late to this, but I'll also attempt to walkthrough how he got to those numbers; obviously, credits for doing this type of tracking go to TjGamebox.
Pertinent Tweets:
https://twitter.com/TjGamebox/status/1748660884359000123
https://archive.ph/312A1
https://twitter.com/tjgamebox/status/1748849244935458996
https://archive.md/Sjzle

First, he substracted his own points (collected by doing free stuff), from DSP's:
tj1.jpg

Which gives a total of 7861000.
Now, since you earn 2000000 additional points if you get the wrestler and do his missions (and DSP most likely did get the wrestler), it totals 5861000 of difference.

This difference is the one that needs to be earned through some form of payment, as no more free stuff can be done to get to that number. And the way (for this particular contest) to do so, is by spending the "loot coins", giving you 10000 extra points per coin spent.
tj2.jpg

So you divide 5861000 by 10000, which gives the number of coins spent, and that is 586.1, which you acquire at the store; the price:
tj3.jpg

A hundred dollars per 40 coins.
Then 586.1/40 = 14.6525 >>> 14.6525 * 100$ = 1465$
 
Little Bill said:
Soooo I've been following TJ's numbers for years now and essentially what he does is he takes the maximum number of points you can get in a contest for FREE and subtracts it from Phil's total. So let's say TJ has 1,000,000 points from just playing the game normally and not pulling Hogans and Phil has 10,000,000. That leaves us with 9,000,000 points that were gained from purchasing packs, tokens, or w/e the fuck they are in that game. From my knowledge, TJ also uses the most efficient/value pack in his calculations, which is probably the $99.99 pack compared to the cheaper packs to calculate how much Phil has spent. In essence, TJ's numbers are on the conservative side all things considered. Phil is likely spending slightly more money, maybe like $50-$100 more per contest than TJ reports. Also, see bank leaks. His numbers are pretty damn close.
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Your time would be better spent setting up fake accounts for mid-tier members on the reacts channel, dent
 
Re: the money, don't forget the bank leaks showed us that he was a) often overdrafting, and b) we had constant, near endless $16.51 transactions to itunes. Every fucking spare cent went to that. He at least had the good sense to attempt to pay bills first. He gets a fair stack in. Even before tips.

And as we learned in the bankruptcy he also supplemented it with credit cards. Which is horrifying to think about on top of what the bank leaks revealed. Although, did we ever hear any credit card payments during those?
 
Jaracainofthewind said:
Although, did we ever hear any credit card payments during those?
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Phil has NEVER paid off a credit debt, apart from his car, and whatever Amazon lets him buy on credit, and he only pays that because Jeff Bezos takes the money straight out of his account each month. Was probably a similar direct debit situation on his car too, otherwise Phil would have spent all the money on Hogans and doordash then begged even more.
 
Jaracainofthewind said:
Re: the money, don't forget the bank leaks showed us that he was a) often overdrafting, and b) we had constant, near endless $16.51 transactions to itunes. Every fucking spare cent went to that. He at least had the good sense to attempt to pay bills first. He gets a fair stack in. Even before tips.

And as we learned in the bankruptcy he also supplemented it with credit cards. Which is horrifying to think about on top of what the bank leaks revealed. Although, did we ever hear any credit card payments during those?
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The bank leaks happened after his bankruptcy. He wouldn't have had any credit card payments.
 
grump said:
Okay not trying to be an asshole here but how exactly do we know TJ is accurate and by how much? I don't got anything against the guy and obviously phil is spending, but I've never seen detailed info on how he comes by his estimates. I make estimates off the bank leaks and the WWE champions subreddit chart which at least I've seen a more solid foundation for and are still substantial.
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I have small experience in WWE Champions, and can say that what Coffee Cuck said is correct. TJ's estimates are not unfounded bullshit, they're pretty easy to figure out.

Also, the numbers that TJ estimate are MINIMUMS. Dave could well be spending more recklessly in some of these events.
 
Prince Lotor said:
Just think about all the things Phil says he can't afford that he could literally afford with what he spends on WWEC every month. New PC, fix the shower, get central air + AC installed, etc.
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If Kat knew they had the money to visit Japan, buy AC, fix everything in the house and Phil was spending it all on WWEC I wonder how furious she would be
 
We Are The Witches said:
Late to this, but I'll also attempt to walkthrough how he got to those numbers; obviously, credits for doing this type of tracking go to TjGamebox.
Pertinent Tweets:
https://twitter.com/TjGamebox/status/1748660884359000123
https://archive.ph/312A1
https://twitter.com/tjgamebox/status/1748849244935458996
https://archive.md/Sjzle

First, he substracted his own points (collected by doing free stuff), from DSP's:
View attachment 5657275

Which gives a total of 7861000.
Now, since you earn 2000000 additional points if you get the wrestler and do his missions (and DSP most likely did get the wrestler), it totals 5861000 of difference.

This difference is the one that needs to be earned through some form of payment, as no more free stuff can be done to get to that number. And the way (for this particular contest) to do so, is by spending the "loot coins", giving you 10000 extra points per coin spent.
View attachment 5657320

So you divide 5861000 by 10000, which gives the number of coins spent, and that is 586.1, which you acquire at the store; the price:
View attachment 5657334

A hundred dollars per 40 coins.
Then 586.1/40 = 14.6525 >>> 14.6525 * 100$ = 1465$
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BPD Gunt Rider said:
I have small experience in WWE Champions, and can say that what Coffee Cuck said is correct. TJ's estimates are not unfounded bullshit, they're pretty easy to figure out.

Also, the numbers that TJ estimate are MINIMUMS. Dave could well be spending more recklessly in some of these events.
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Okay sounds reasonable. Is there some place that tracks all his estimates with the dates and collates them together? Sorry, I don't feel like going back through this thread one by one.
 
grump said:
Okay sounds reasonable. Is there some place that tracks all his estimates with the dates and collates them together? Sorry, I don't feel like going back through this thread one by one.
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Not really, just Gamebox's Twitter as far as I know. But I usually just see the updates here. Would be a good idea to have it all laid out somewhere so it's easy to track.

Maybe it will even show us some spending patterns we haven't noticed before. But with these things we'd need someone to take one for the team and take notes of all the autism.

And for this to be accurate it would have to be someone who knows, or is willing to learn about the game and that certainly ain't me.

Did all my gem crushing on Candy Crush in 2012 so I'm not going back.
 
So, WPIG did an iceberg video on Phil's history on WWE Supercard last week, and I highly recommend everyone watch it. It showed how addicted Phil was to that game, and gets you clued in on the mindset that's current feeding Phil's addiction to Champions. It's 4 hours long btw.

 
Cucktry Roads said:
It's 4 hours long btw.
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The DSP detractor community has an epidemic of long windedness. There is zero reason a video about a mans mobile game addiction needs to be longer then 45 minutes. I remember Steveofthedead once made a 5 hour video on the "psychology" of Phils interactions with Jasper the cat. Cut the bullshit out some of us have jobs.
 
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