WWE Champions General - Despite his claims, DSP is still spending thousands of dollars on the WWE Champions mobile game

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Freshtodeath said:
He barely ever drives so he would be better off just buying a car outright. He thinks paying minimum payments means he's winning though or something.
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Because if he makes minimum payments then he has more money now to piss away. If he was to buy a car outright he'd have far less money for immediate spending on gacha and doordash. Plus if he wanted anything better than an old piece of shit (which of course he wants, he always buys the most expensive just because he buys the lie that higher price means higher quality) he'd have to save money which even he can't even do between streams.
 
twattycake said:
I also disagree with the "nothing of value to sell" claim because he had a ton of junk that could have been liquidated: The Wall of DVDs could have sold for $100
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The court system isn't going to bother with a stray $100 here or there for the bankruptcy of "Half-a-Mil Phil".
 
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Can anyone tell me what the latest estimate of total money sunk into WWE Champions since the first post in this thread? It was minimum $10,000 in Jan 2020 when the thread started, although probably a lot more than that given some of the other context.
 
Space_Dandy said:
Can anyone tell me what the latest estimate of total money sunk into WWE Champions since the first post in this thread? It was minimum $10,000 in Jan 2020 when the thread started, although probably a lot more than that given some of the other context.
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Over $100,000+
 
Space_Dandy said:
Can anyone tell me what the latest estimate of total money sunk into WWE Champions since the first post in this thread? It was minimum $10,000 in Jan 2020 when the thread started, although probably a lot more than that given some of the other context.
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The information gained from the bank leaks shows that he spent approximately 21% of his money on WWE Champions. If you estimate that he's raking in at least $100k a year, that means he's probably spending about $21,000 a year on this game.
 
Sparkletor 2.0 said:
The information gained from the bank leaks shows that he spent approximately 21% of his money on WWE Champions. If you estimate that he's raking in at least $100k a year, that means he's probably spending about $21,000 a year on this game.
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What's crazy is that his idiocy prevents it from being much higher, because that trait caps not only his earnings but diverts a lot more money than is necessary, to the act of keeping himself alive and satisfied in other respects. For example, if he would cook for himself, he could spend more like 25% of his income on Champions. Or if he didn't drink so much, it could go even higher, to 30%.

I've said before, Phil sucks at sucking, and this is a fantastic example. As absurd as it is to devote so much of one's earnings to a mobile game, the Gouty One takes it a step further, and half-asses the act of being a gacha fiend. This is how we know this addiction isn't actually more powerful than the others, it's just the one that's easiest to spend so much on. His others aren't relenting in order to accommodate it, at all. In fact, it's probably a constant brawl in his head.
 
Space_Dandy said:
Can anyone tell me what the latest estimate of total money sunk into WWE Champions since the first post in this thread? It was minimum $10,000 in Jan 2020 when the thread started, although probably a lot more than that given some of the other context.
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Shirō Ishii said:
Over $100,000+
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Sparkletor 2.0 said:
The information gained from the bank leaks shows that he spent approximately 21% of his money on WWE Champions. If you estimate that he's raking in at least $100k a year, that means he's probably spending about $21,000 a year on this game.
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No need to guesstimate, the bank leaks gave us the exact amount he spent on micropayments - $44,950.30 over 18.5 months on gross income of roughly of $130k/year (source). That works out to just under $2,430 a month or just over $29,160 a year and even that could be an underestimate - we know from the most recent set of discord leaks that he is very fond of donated gift cards and paying for WWE Champions with those would be impossible for us to detect unless/until his lineup becomes too good for the amount of spending he does.

Edit: Based on my post upthread the estimate I came up with since the game released was just over $150,000 over the game's lifetime. Just bear in mind there is a large amount of uncertainty on that number because it assumes he has been spending the same amount since launch; depending on how much of his credit card debt in the begruptcy was principal due to his Champions spending that could be a pretty large over- or under- estimate.
 
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twattycake said:
we know from the most recent set of discord leaks that he is very fond of donated gift cards and paying for WWE Champions with those would be impossible for us to detect unless/until his lineup becomes too good for the amount of spending he does.
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I didn't know he could use them to pay for Champions. Now I REALLY want to see what's actually in that section, because if the amount of gift cards he's receiving is way beyond what he needs for buying games to play on stream, then we know why it's being hidden away like that.
 
TheGoutburglar said:
I didn't know he could use them to pay for Champions. Now I REALLY want to see what's actually in that section, because if the amount of gift cards he's receiving is way beyond what he needs for buying games to play on stream, then we know why it's being hidden away like that.
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I see no reason why he couldn't, he probably realizes that asking for iTunes cards directly would be tough to explain but prepaid Visa can be used anywhere while Amazon sells iTunes gift cards without even charging a processing or courtesy fee. He could ask for Amazon cards to "help the stream", use them to buy iTunes gift cards, spend it on gacha, then come up with some BS story for where the money went and there would be zero evidence in his bank statements. Phil was really into credit card kiting pre-begruptcy so this would be in-character for him and definitely within his abilities.
 
twattycake said:
I see no reason why he couldn't, he probably realizes that asking for iTunes cards directly would be tough to explain but prepaid Visa can be used anywhere while Amazon sells iTunes gift cards without even charging a processing or courtesy fee. He could ask for Amazon cards to "help the stream", use them to buy iTunes gift cards, spend it on gacha, then come up with some BS story for where the money went and there would be zero evidence in his bank statements. Phil was really into credit card kiting pre-begruptcy so this would be in-character for him and definitely within his abilities.
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And fits right in line with how he's only willing to put thought and effort into things that are just plain wrong, if they help him get away with shit. He definitely has reason these days to not want evidence ANYWHERE.

Though if that section of his Discord is filled with people gifting him cards that he doesn't talk about on stream, that by itself is tough to explain, especially considering what his comments in there are probably like.
 
twattycake said:
No need to guesstimate, the bank leaks gave us the exact amount he spent on micropayments - $44,950.30 over 18.5 months on gross income of roughly of $130k/year (source). That works out to just under $2,430 a month or just over $29,160 a year and even that could be an underestimate - we know from the most recent set of discord leaks that he is very fond of donated gift cards and paying for WWE Champions with those would be impossible for us to detect unless/until his lineup becomes too good for the amount of spending he does.

Edit: Based on my post upthread the estimate I came up with since the game released was just over $150,000 over the game's lifetime. Just bear in mind there is a large amount of uncertainty on that number because it assumes he has been spending the same amount since launch; depending on how much of his credit card debt in the begruptcy was principal due to his Champions spending that could be a pretty large over- or under- estimate.
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Whoo, thank you sir for the in-depth explanation. I know there's uncertainty here but this is some pretty good data, and also pretty sad. Over 100K, possibly 150K, all spent on one mobile game?

This is just for that one game or is this all mobile microtransactions? Well, either way this is ridiculous. I'm sure his wife appreciates it.
 
TheGoutburglar said:
Though if that section of his Discord is filled with people gifting him cards that he doesn't talk about on stream, that by itself is tough to explain, especially considering what his comments in there are probably like.
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How is it hard to explain? His narrative on-stream is that viewers need to donate because he is one missed tips goal away from being unable to pay his bills. If it came out that he's been receiving more than enough to make up the difference, it might scare some of the small donors away - from Phil's perspective any donor walking away is unacceptable even if it's not one of the whales.

Equally importantly it would mean admitting that the Farms was right. Rule #1 of DSP is that the trolls must never win even if it means making a fool out of himself.

Space_Dandy said:
This is just for that one game or is this all mobile microtransactions? Well, either way this is ridiculous. I'm sure his wife appreciates it.
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Just this one game; he has also mentioned playing Marvel Future Fight, WWE Supercard, Final Fantasy Brave Exvius, and Dokkan Battle on his own time and briefly played Hearthstone on stream. He may have played WWE Immortals as well but there is no way to know for certain because the servers were shut down just over 3 years ago.

The reason we are focusing so much effort on tracking Phil's spending in Champions specifically is that anybody can view player profiles (here is his) and leaderboards which really helped us estimate his spending to date when the profile was first discovered along with spending on every event since then. @actually did some digging into Phil's Marvel Future Fight profile and might be able to give you an estimate of his spending in that game but many of the other gacha games we know he's played provide too little information to give even a rough estimate.
 
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twattycake said:
How is it hard to explain? His narrative on-stream is that viewers need to donate because he is one missed tips goal away from being unable to pay his bills. If it came out that he's been receiving more than enough to make up the difference, it might scare some of the small donors away - from Phil's perspective any donor walking away is unacceptable even if it's not one of the whales.

Equally importantly it would mean admitting that the Farms was right. Rule #1 of DSP is that the trolls must never win even if it means making a fool out of himself.


Just this one game; he has also mentioned playing Marvel Future Fight, WWE Supercard, Final Fantasy Brave Exvius, and Dokkan Battle on his own time and briefly played Hearthstone on stream. He may have played WWE Immortals as well but there is no way to know for certain because the servers were shut down just over 3 years ago.

The reason we are focusing so much effort on tracking Phil's spending in Champions specifically is that anybody can view player profiles (here is his) and leaderboards which really helped us estimate his spending to date when the profile was first discovered along with spending on every event since then. @actually did some digging into Phil's Marvel Future Fight profile and might be able to give you an estimate of his spending in that game but many of the other gacha games we know he's played provide too little information to give even a rough estimate.
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So just to make this clear for the slow in class (me), he could easily have spend $200K-$250K on mobile gatcha games and maybe even as much as $300K in total?
 
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