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SneEyeMitch said:
Well my understanding is they want to advance technologies and are pushing a massive human experiment to get just that. Other than that no, I'm not a mind reader, their points make zero sense with their own data or reasons given.

The other reason that I can think of is everyone wants to be like China with it's social credit, or the Soviet Union with it's internal passports given that in the UK the ones who advise the government when it comes to covid are members of the communist party, it makes me go hmm.
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I would imagine because the vax has proven itself to be little better than placebo. Considering their great plan is "vax doesn't work against the new spike protein, solution is more of the exact same vax!" It's not like they even updated it. Like they want to force a square peg through the round hole and their solution was to go take the identical square peg from every other set until they find one that will go through that hole. It makes no sense. Like throwing more fuel onto a fire in the hopes it will get tired of burning.
 
SneEyeMitch said:
Sure what will you accept?
A news article?
www.dailymail.co.uk

Social distancing should stay FOREVER, says Communist SAGE scientist

Professor Susan Michie from University College London said she thinks the draconian restrictions should become part of people's every day routine.
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Wikipedia?

Susan Michie - Wikipedia

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Even wiki agrees she's a communist.
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Thanks.

I wasn't doubting just had not heard that before. But most importantly I want something to point to when I mention it.

I wish I could say I was surprised.
 
mdrop22 said:
I think it's funny how the people who were pissed at "big pharma" for the last 10 years because of their lies regarding opiate safety, their ridiculous prices, the lack of public health care, etc now 100% trust Pfizer and Moderna, no questions asked.

They trust the same medical institutions that told them Oxycotin was not addictive. The same institutions that said smoking a single joint of cannabis causes irreversible structural brain damage. The same institutions that said thalidomide is safe. The same institutions that swear aspartame doesn't cause cancer.

They've had their chances to build public trust and they've failed. At this point people don't even trust their own GPs and I don't blame them! I don't even take the medications given to me half the time because it makes no sense. "You have a viral sinus infection, here's a z pack." Wtf? I read the insert on my migraine medication and the common side effects made my head spin. Last script I got was for 500mg Ibuprofen twice daily, I just skipped it and took regular dose Aleve once, why the fuck would I blow up my stomach with that much Ibuprofen?

Take everything a doctor says with a grain of salt. They're listening to their higher ups and tend not to think too much about...anything really. Just diagnose, prescribe, and get the fuck out. That's why people with something to lose here (child bearing age women, athletes, college students) aren't getting the vaccine. They can't risk their health on some political lie.
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Even C students get degrees and all that. I've long suspected that most GPs just leave the room to consult some WebMD for their diagnoses. It's not like med school teaches critical thinking any more than other STEM field. All you need to pass is memorization and a touch of pattern recognition.

People with the chops to follow the scientific method and correlate research exist, but they're few in number. Almost every doctor visit in my adult life, I've already figured out what was wrong and told the doc on my intake form. These Believe Muh Science tards think medicine is magic. Truth is, you can figure out at least half of it as a layperson with the ability to categorize symptoms and figure out what stats mean.
 
Escaped Abortion said:
I would imagine because the vax has proven itself to be little better than placebo. Considering their great plan is "vax doesn't work against the new spike protein, solution is more of the exact same vax!" It's not like they even updated it. Like they want to force a square peg through the round hole and their solution was to go take the identical square peg from every other set until they find one that will go through that hole. It makes no sense. Like throwing more fuel onto a fire in the hopes it will get tired of burning.
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They're opening themselves up to different treatments (expect the ones that aren't experimental...), see Israel approving a "tablet vax".
UK is now opened to using legacy tech with Novavax. (but if you're Russian then screw your legacy tech)

6MillionCoofs said:
Thanks.

I wasn't doubting just had not heard that before. But most importantly I want something to point to when I mention it.

I wish I could say I was surprised.
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Really makes you go hmm, doesn't it. Anyway don't worry about it, I'm just use to people being overly picking when it comes to sources that instead of wasting my time I'll ask you straight up what exactly will you accept as a source.
 
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mdrop22 said:
I think it's funny how the people who were pissed at "big pharma" for the last 10 years because of their lies regarding opiate safety, their ridiculous prices, the lack of public health care, etc now 100% trust Pfizer and Moderna, no questions asked.
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That is the power of social reinforcement via pandering to sub-culture and media supremacy. It was made that questioning the holocoof is a low-status thing to do. Like wokeness it is something you simply not stop doing if you want to keep your cushy urban job. Many of them have over production of workers so everybody is disposable, so keeping true and honest to the "accepted" is mandatory to stay afloat.

A reason why memeflu propaganda feels cringe and weird is the fact that they are aimed at this "reddit" class of people. They simply can't speak the langauge of the average folk. In a way that is their weakness. They simply think the average joe is so inferior, that you don't need to understand them and you can just push them around.

It would have been really easy to present the virus in a way that the hicks get afraid of it. The problem for the system is that the hicks would organize themselves and stockpile resources, while the bugman just runs back to his little flat and dies waiting to get his freedom back. Tyranny is always easier in the cities, diffused towns are a pain.
 
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SouthernBitchBob said:
Even C students get degrees and all that. I've long suspected that most GPs just leave the room to consult some WebMD for their diagnoses. It's not like med school teaches critical thinking any more than other STEM field. All you need to pass is memorization and a touch of pattern recognition.

People with the chops to follow the scientific method and correlate research exist, but they're few in number. Almost every doctor visit in my adult life, I've already figured out what was wrong and told the doc on my intake form. These Believe Muh Science tards think medicine is magic. Truth is, you can figure out at least half of it as a layperson with the ability to categorize symptoms and figure out what stats mean.
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You have to also realize that doctors are not going to say anything that might make them sound Republican for fear of being cancelled either.

The most prominent one I can think of is Dr. Kenneth Zucker. He studied gender dysmorphia for 30 years and was basically THE expert in the field. When they asked him the best course of action for troons, he said therapy first, and they kicked him out for being "transphobic."

The leading expert in the field gave the woke crowd an answer they didn't like, and ended his career.

Kenneth Zucker - Wikipedia

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SneEyeMitch said:
Sure what will you accept?
A news article?
www.dailymail.co.uk

Social distancing should stay FOREVER, says Communist SAGE scientist

Professor Susan Michie from University College London said she thinks the draconian restrictions should become part of people's every day routine.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
Wikipedia?

Susan Michie - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org
Even wiki agrees she's a communist.
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I doubt that SOB will practice social distancing at home. Social distancing for the thee but not for me....
 
The various threads about Monkeypox here and there bring me in mind that article.
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Monkey Business from China – COVID Part Two?

Mark Twain is believed to have uttered this profundity about history, “History doesn’t repeat itself, but it often rhymes.” Are we catching a glimpse of COVID history beginning to rhyme with itself? Today’s story is, &ldquo...
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July 23, 2021

Monkey Business from China – COVID Part Two?​

By Brian C.Joondeph, MD

Mark Twain is believed to have uttered this profundity about history, “History doesn’t repeat itself, but it often rhymes.” Are we catching a glimpse of COVID history beginning to rhyme with itself?
Today’s story is, “Veterinarian dies in China from rare monkey virus.” Substitute “ophthalmologist” for “veterinarian” and “bat” for “monkey” and see if you can hear the rhyme from early 2020.
A year and a half ago, in February 2020, shortly after President Trump banned travel to the US from China, we learned of this story: “Li Wenliang: Coronavirus kills Chinese whistleblower doctor.” He was a Wuhan hospital ophthalmologist who in December 2019 sent a message to fellow doctors through a chat group warning of seven cases he had seen of a virus causing symptoms resembling the SARS virus from 2003.

Four days later he was summoned to the Public Security Bureau, coerced into signing a letter of confession for “making false comments” that had “severely disturbed the social order.” A month later he was diagnosed with coronavirus and a week later he died. What a coincidence.
The next part of rhyming history is how his medical observations were treated by the state. China uses its “Public Security Bureau” while in the US we have Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, and Brian Stelter to determine truth. Credit China for being honest about state-sponsored censorship, unlike doublespeak from the American ruling class.
The Chinese veterinarian who recently died worked in, “A research institute that specialized in nonhuman primate breeding, the report from the Chinese Centre for Disease Control and Prevention said.” He was infected with Monkey B virus, a nasty pathogen with a 70 to 80 percent mortality rate in humans.

The good news is, “There has only been one known case where the Monkey B virus has been transmitted from human to human, in Florida in 1987.” That rhymes with what the World Health Organization assured us of at the same time the Chinese ophthalmologist was “disturbing the social order”.
The WHO tweeted in January 2020, “Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel #coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in #Wuhan.” How did that turn out?

Was this only one case of monkeypox far away in China? No. A few days ago we learned that the CDC was investigating in Texas, “A case of an unusual virus called monkeypox in a traveler coming from Nigeria.” Just a coincidence? Maybe or maybe not.
Days later it is worse. The New York Post reports that the CDC is monitoring for monkeypox, 200 people in 27 states who were exposed to the Nigerian man.
Texas public health officials quickly decided this was nothing to be concerned over, saying "We have determined that there is very little risk to the general public." This statement has a familiar rhyme from last year.
In February 2020, when Dr, Fauci was beginning his never-ending media tour, he told a USA Today reporter, “Risk of coronavirus in USA is 'minuscule'; skip mask and wash hands.” How did that turn out?

There was a short-lived outbreak of monkeypox in the US in 2003, due to a shipment of animals from Ghana. Monkeypox is similar to the Ebola virus in that it is of high lethality but low transmissibility. Such viruses often kill their host before the virus can replicate and spread, making outbreaks short lived.
Smallpox vaccination is also 85 percent effective in preventing monkeypox. Routine smallpox vaccination ended in the US in 1972 with eradication declared in 1980, meaning many Americans are immune to both smallpox and monkeypox. Unless this is not your father’s monkeypox.
What if virology laboratories are playing with these pox viruses, research into transmission or vaccines, or gain of function research as was done with coronaviruses in the Wuhan Institute of Virology?
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Fanatical Pragmatist said:
Ioannidis, Vanden Bossche, Birdle, etc. etc....
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Funny thing about Dr Bridle is one of the so called ‘experts’ from the Ontario science fiction table; who is also a practicing doctor; created a website about dr bridle to discredit his life work. Dr Bridle said he didn’t even have social media accounts. In a podcast he was on, he didn’t specify WHO the person was who created the fake web page but everyone in Ontario knows exactly who it is.
Dr Fisman is who is the suspected slanderer. This clown is still on the science fiction table and no media outlet ever reported on it.

www.trishwoodpodcast.com

EPISODE 58: mRNA INVENTOR ROBERT MALONE BACKS UP PROF. BYRAM BRIDLE — Trish Wood Is Critical

In an explosive interview, impeccably credentialed Malone and Bridle go after critics trying to silence anyone who raises issues about vaccine safety. They explore spike proteins, dosing errors, the coercion of children, the attack on podcaster Bret Weinstein and the absence of risk-benefit ratios —
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clusterfuckk said:
Funny thing about Dr Bridle is one of the so called ‘experts’ from the Ontario science fiction table; who is also a practicing doctor; created a website about dr bridle to discredit his life work. Dr Bridle said he didn’t even have social media accounts. In a podcast he was on, he didn’t specify WHO the person was who created the fake web page but everyone in Ontario knows exactly who it is.
Dr Fisman is who is the suspected slanderer. This clown is still on the science fiction table and no media outlet ever reported on it.

www.trishwoodpodcast.com

EPISODE 58: mRNA INVENTOR ROBERT MALONE BACKS UP PROF. BYRAM BRIDLE — Trish Wood Is Critical

In an explosive interview, impeccably credentialed Malone and Bridle go after critics trying to silence anyone who raises issues about vaccine safety. They explore spike proteins, dosing errors, the coercion of children, the attack on podcaster Bret Weinstein and the absence of risk-benefit ratios —
www.trishwoodpodcast.com www.trishwoodpodcast.com
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It must be a new symptom of COVID-19 that caused these formerly respectable scientists to suddenly go full crackpot grifter in 2020/2021...
 
Salubrious said:
You have to also realize that doctors are not going to say anything that might make them sound Republican for fear of being cancelled either.

The most prominent one I can think of is Dr. Kenneth Zucker. He studied gender dysmorphia for 30 years and was basically THE expert in the field. When they asked him the best course of action for troons, he said therapy first, and they kicked him out for being "transphobic."

The leading expert in the field gave the woke crowd an answer they didn't like, and ended his career.

Kenneth Zucker - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org
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Stories like these have made me long suspect that the replicability crisis is only half the story. I think there's an equally widespread conclusions crisis. Whether it's from ideologically-addled preformulated conclusions or scared scientists reaching the cult-approved answer to save their asses, I've read more than one "study" that appears to have perfectly reasonable data gathered using time-honored methods to ensure it's not a bunch of junk...and then in the summary they find a way to bend over backward to conclude that AKSHULLY the data means the opposite of what it says.

One of my favorite studies that does this is from the Israeli neuroscientist Daphna Joel. Oversimplification of her study: she scanned men and women to find the differences between male and female brains. Unsurprisingly, they're similar in a majority of ways since we're the same species. But if you average the male scans together and average the female scans together, you come up with several clearly different spots on the scans.

But popular feminist orthodoxy dictates that men and women are exactly the same, and she's a True Believer. So in her conclusion, she took this data and wrote that "Even though there are differences between the scans, none of the male brains matched the 'average' male brain exactly, and none of the female brains matched the 'average' exactly. So because male and female brains have variation in them, they're basically exactly the same". She went on a talk show circuit proclaiming that men and women have no notable differences between their brains.

Which is preposterous. But it's got a similar smell to the "the existence of outliers means that averages don't exist at all!" bullshit the Biological Sex Isn't Real crowd tries to pull.
 
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So, not sure if I am amazingly late on this but a search for Poynette High School yielded no results so somehow this might have slipped the radar.

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Wisconsin teacher rants at vaccinated student for not wearing a mask

The Poynette High School teacher was placed on administrative leave after the May 11 incident while an investigation takes place. She called the student a 'dink', a 'jerk' and a 'dumm'y in the exchange.
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This is the shocking moment a Wisconsin teacher berated a vaccinated student because he did not want to wear a mask in the classroom.

The Poynette High School teacher was placed on administrative leave after the incident while an investigation takes place.

Videos of the interaction were posted to TikTok on Tuesday. In the footage, the female teacher can be seen standing over the 17-year-old student who is sitting on the floor with his back against the wall.

This is the shocking moment a Wisconsin teacher bullied a vaccinated student because he did not want to wear a mask in the classroom while he was eating lunch


This is the shocking moment a Wisconsin teacher bullied a vaccinated student because he did not want to wear a mask in the classroom while he was eating lunch



Videos of the interaction were posted to TikTok on Tuesday. In the footage, the female teacher can be seen standing over the 17-year-old student who is sitting on the floor with his back against the wall
'Fine. I don't care if you're vaccinated you little dink', the teacher shouts. 'I don't want to get sick and die. There's other people you can infect, just because you're vaccinated.

'You know what, you're not a special person around here. You should hear how everyone talks about you'.

The student, who is eating, responds: 'I hear how people talk about me. I don't care how people talk about me'.

'You're a jerk', screams the teacher. 'You need to have respect for other people in your life. You're not a big man on campus. Quit walking around here like you have a stick up your butt.'

The boy could be heard saying he walks like that because he doesn't 'want to crease my shoes.'

'It's not literal, you dummy,' she responds at the end of the first footage.

In a second video posted to TikTok, the teacher can be heard telling the student: 'People don't like you. I don't like you'.

He then says, 'In a few years look at me and then you'll be like, 'Oh hey, I was wrong about him.'

'No,' the teacher replies, 'In a few years, I know exactly where you'll be because people with your attitude don't get very far.'

'You treat people like crap,' the teacher says, 'and people who treat people like crap don't get very far, Jimmy.'

The Wisconsin teacher was seen standing over the student, who was eating his lunch in the classroom, while she berated him
'You don't care about people,' she said, 'You are one of the most disrespectful kids I've seen grace the halls of this high school and I've been here 27 years.'

'Grow up,' she says, 'Have a little compassion for other people in the world.'

The boy says 'I do,' to which the teacher says 'show it then, prove me wrong Jimmy. Be nice once. Just be nice to somebody once.'

Jimmy tries to tell her that he's 'nice all the time,' to which the teacher responds, 'you are not.'

The pair of videos were tweeted by Wisconsin talk radio host Vicki McKenna.

District Administrator Matthew Shappell said on Facebook the district 'is aware of an incident that occurred today, May 11th, 2021, involving a teacher and student at the Poynette High School,

'The District is initiating an investigation and the teacher involved has been put on administrative leave pending the outcome of the investigation.'

Shappell wrote on the district's Facebook page that the district was aware of the incident and was providing support to the student


Poynette School District Administrator Matthew Shappell said the district requires students to wear masks in school buildings, but did not say what the penalty is for not wearing one
He added the student had been offered support by the district and that his parents had been contacted, WMTV reported.

The post on social media garnered more than 300 comments, according to KCTV, before district officials disabled comments on the post 'to maintain the integrity of our social media platform.'

He told CNN masks are mandatory in school buildings and on district-sponsored transportation, but did not say what the penalty is for not wearing one.
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I'd like to check out the school's Twitter but forget the specific post, the whole thing is protected now. Funny how having one of your teachers caught being an absolutely awful person can lead to that.
I can empathise to her with a degree. Humans suck donkey nethers. But the fact that she went all in on the "everyone knows you're awful, you'll never amount to anything" I am astounded the school think there's any way to salvage this one.
 
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