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longtimelurkerfirsttimepo said:
No need to be a faggot, just show me reasonable evidence.

If that was the case, why would the entire world be reacting to the virus and developing vaccines? A larger population is more man-power and labour to both exploit and expand to create a stronger country. Why would the rich/powerful be getting them as well?

The "vaccines are deadly" argument hinges on the basis that there are no real independent players when it comes to countries, which really isn't true. (Russia, China, USA, UK, the EU, South American countries all aren't working together, and the minor players would all be happy to see the playing field leveled out a bit.) That's not even mentioning the fact that very few people even trust their government when it comes to most things,
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The fake virus nonsense goes out the window.

Its impossible to fake a pandemic but these faggots who probably believe this also believe bluebeam is real and aliens are holograms.


Every country on earth is dealing with covid. Its undeniable an airborne SARS like virus is floating around. We can argue its severity, but its existence isnt in question.

Cuba, Venezuala and north korea wouldnt be playing along with hoaxes.

The logistics to a fake pandemic are mind numbingly inpossible and the secrecy involved would be impossible to keep since anyone with a lab and $25000 can see a virus with a equipment.


...depopulation? Why wouldnt they just sneak something in one of our trusted tetatnus shots we get every year or so?


The wholefake pandemic angle is cringe. I just see them deploying vaccines that kill and sterilize as an accident and thats not new. Look what happened with Gardasil.
 
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The golden neckbeard said:
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The fake virus nonsense goes out the window.

Its impossible to fake a pandemic but these faggots who probably believe this also believe bluebeam is real and aliens are holograms.


Every country on earth is dealing with covid. Its undeniable an airborne SARS like virus is floating around. We can argue its severity, but its existence isnt in question.

Cuba, Venezuala and north korea wouldnt be playing along with hoaxes.

The logistics to a fake pandemic are mind numbingly inpossible and the secrecy involved would be impossible to keep since anyone with a lab and $25000 can see a virus with a equipment.


...depopulation? Why wouldnt they just sneak something in one of our trusted tetatnus shots we get every year or so?


The wholefake pandemic angle is cringe. I just see them deploying vaccines that kill and sterilize as an accident and thats not new. Look what happened with Gardasil.
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Tetanus shots are much less frequent than that, also even the flu shot isn't that common of a vaccination on a yearly basis. If you were to depopulate you'd most likely want to take out the old and infirm, 50 year olds as able bodied as they may be are on the other side of the average life span. I'm not claiming that it's for sure a depopulation scheme, but if you were to for instance want to get rid of the elderly a shot that protects them from a respiratory illness that disproportionately affects them (even if only on paper) would be an excellent means to do so. Lord knows everyone with wrinkles was clamoring to go get this shot.
 
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Why wouldnt they just sneak something in one of our trusted tetatnus shots we get every year or so?
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I don't think this is a depopulation scheme either but this is a weird assumption to make. The vast majority of Americans don't even get the flu shot. Tetanus is given every 10 years on average but most people don't stay on top of it unless they work in certain industries. Most people don't even have a complete medical history available for their current GP because hardly anyone stays with the same doctor for their entire life, and moving medical info can be annoying and expensive.

This is why Americans are not jumping to get the covid vax. We aren't used to shooting ourselves up with vaccines every year past the age of like 5. People begrudgingly put up with travel and school vaccinations, but a lot of people find their way around those as well.
 
My employer is trying to force me to get the vaccine. I live in a good, God fearing state, but the company headquarters is in an extreme blue city, and it's a relatively large company.

What are my options here? Should I just try to slide under the radar? Should I ask them if they're going to be financially liable for a vaccine they're forcing me to get? Should I give them my sob story about my mom almost dying from the vaccine (which is true)? Other?
 
Lord of the Large Pants said:
My employer is trying to force me to get the vaccine. I live in a good, God fearing state, but the company headquarters is in an extreme blue city, and it's a relatively large company.

What are my options here? Should I just try to slide under the radar? Should I ask them if they're going to be financially liable for a vaccine they're forcing me to get? Should I give them my sob story about my mom almost dying from the vaccine (which is true)? Other?
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Legally, your options are (1) hope they forget, (2) get the vaccine, (3) start looking for a new job.

They won't be liable or care about your Mom. Maybe if you can get an actual doctor's note excusing you, but that's it.
 
Lord of the Large Pants said:
My employer is trying to force me to get the vaccine. I live in a good, God fearing state, but the company headquarters is in an extreme blue city, and it's a relatively large company.

What are my options here? Should I just try to slide under the radar? Should I ask them if they're going to be financially liable for a vaccine they're forcing me to get? Should I give them my sob story about my mom almost dying from the vaccine (which is true)? Other?
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Does your state allow for any exemptions? Some even allow personal exemptions, or religious ones.

Also, I just want to say how hideously crazy it is for them to start maketing the covid shot as boosters every six months. First off, we have never used boosters required that frequently unless you are a house pet. MMR boosters happen but after like, decades if you choose. The flu shot is not a booster in the least, each one is a unique vaccination against a specific virus we lump into flu... It's like if you made a poison that only kills tigers, but then had a lion problem and had to change the recipe to kill the lions.

I had heard that coronaviruses that are in colds have short antibodies, but the SARS type antibodies from SARS Vanilla are still active today. That's more a property of how much of a threat the body views the illness rather than a coronavirus property, it seems, so that can't be the excuse.

The real excuse is money.
 
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Fareal said:
Flu infections are down this cycle because of masking. The fluicidal scumbags who sneezed and coughed their fucking viral loads all over everyone in shops and public transport have been compelled to gum up the inside of their masks instead. Plus, social distancing/lockdown limited the opportunities to pass this disgusting gift on. Flu rates should be back to normal in the coming cycle unless there is substantially greater uptake of a reasonably effective vaccine in the general population.
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There is actually no real proof that flu infections are down.

That rumor largely comes from prescriptions of Tamiflu being down like 96% or something, and a complete absence of serious influenza hospitalizations and influenza deaths "vanishing" (as if all respiratory viral deaths are being listed as something else or something...)

There are also reported cases of influenza-COVID coinfection.(Archive)
How can COVID be coinfecting with the flu if the flu is gone?
HymanHive said:
I agree with all of this. But I've never gotten my head around Asymptomatic covid.

How can you have the world's deadliest airborne super aids, and yet show no signs that you have it? It makes no sense. Surely its more logical that the test was a false positive? Otherwise the virus is a bit of a pussy
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Because the virus isn't actually that deadly to most people.

Part of the reason why COVID/SARS-CoV-2's case fatality rate (CFR) (the number you usually see on TV) can't be trusted is because COVID is so often asymptomatic, which is why estimations of infection lethality rate (IFR) are much lower and much more trustworthy.
Mariposa Colorado said:
I don't know if mentioned already, so apologies... But that "Long Covid" also obviously has to do with the fact that alot of old covid patients have been in a induced coma on the ventilator. Recovering from being connected to machines is brutal and takes months to get back to a "normal" life.
I remember seeing a man on tv that's been on the machines for 3 weeks total and after he woke up, he could not lift his fingers anymore let alone stand up, his lungcapacity was very shitty and he lost 20 pounds. Recovery from THAT is even worse than a bad covid infection.
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I don't think "long covid" in these types of cases is what's up for debate.
If you had COVID so bad you were in the ICU then it makes sense the virus was doing enough damage to leave lingering scarring/tissue damage (even without the effects of ventilators and other treatments taken into account).

What is up for debate, is Neo-Munchies in their 20's & 30's complaining of every fucking symptom from tiredness to headaches and "brain fog" to seasonal allergies and blaming it on the mild COVID case they had 3 months ago.

I'm also slightly convinced that a number of "long covid" cases are the type of people who believe the media and think a mask will stop them from catching one of dozens of "common colds" and then catch something completely unrelated 2-6 months after COVID so they think these new mild symptoms are the dormant covid* viri coming active and attacking them again or whatever the fuck these munchies believe.
*(I know coronaviruses don't actually do this)
 
Lord of the Large Pants said:
My employer is trying to force me to get the vaccine. I live in a good, God fearing state, but the company headquarters is in an extreme blue city, and it's a relatively large company.

What are my options here? Should I just try to slide under the radar? Should I ask them if they're going to be financially liable for a vaccine they're forcing me to get? Should I give them my sob story about my mom almost dying from the vaccine (which is true)? Other?
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If you're an adult you should tell them no and leave it at that. If they fire you get another job. It's not that complicated.
 
HymanHive said:
The vaccine is a control test on human subjects and covid is an excuse to skip straight to human trials.

Why? Because a repeat vaccine for aids and cancer is the biggest gold mine in history. If you have cancer and you want to live another six months, pay £10k. Who wouldn't if they could?

Why are the vaccines shit? Simply put, in a trial, you need placebos and some shitty versions to prove that one is more effective than the rest.

All of the world's governments are working together on this and it can be proved because at some basic level, all covid vaccines use the same ingredients, with some slight variations. Think about it. The AZ vaccine and the Pfizer vaccine must share some commonality, otherwise one would be a covid jab and the other could be liquid chocolate.
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Man you're still limited in this view. They want vaccines for everything. They've been trying and theorizing vaccines for addictions as well. Smoking is the most common one I have seen. Imagine selling every 6 months a booster for mood alterations, behavior modification, addiction prevention, etc etc etc. They have endless opportunities to milk the masses!
 
Lord of the Large Pants said:
My employer is trying to force me to get the vaccine. I live in a good, God fearing state, but the company headquarters is in an extreme blue city, and it's a relatively large company.

What are my options here? Should I just try to slide under the radar? Should I ask them if they're going to be financially liable for a vaccine they're forcing me to get? Should I give them my sob story about my mom almost dying from the vaccine (which is true)? Other?
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Literally just go on the Chans and print a card out. Scout local Social media for some dumb zoomer who posted their lot #

When you get your "Second shot" Make sure you have a "Reaction" and miss a day or two of work and go enjoy yourself fishing or golfing.

Confidently tell your HR person you wont be taking a booster because it almost killed you, and make sure you tell all your co-workers at the water cooler what the 2nd shot did to you...be creative. Heart Palpitations, Chest pain, throwing up blood...squirrels flying out of your ass....whatever.

Then give your card to HR.
Since HIPAA records are private, HR will file it and put your name on a list and never look at it again unless some sort legislative change happens.

I doubt any such change will ever happen. If an employer can't check your medical records to see if you are HIV positive then they cannot check for a vaccine. And if by chance your medical records get accessed and you get fired or something you have a wonderful lawsuit on your hands and probably settlement out of court for a few 100k
 
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The High Prophet of Truth said:
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Watching the slide into tyranny and the death of free speech continues to be a knife in the heart. Can we call it censorship if it is the government asking the SMS carries to edit or not send your speech? Is it time to take up thieves cant?

The thing is, most of the people I know love this. They hate free speech and believe that everyone is entitled to talk about their opinion and how correct it is, and nothing more, and view that is free speech. Sadly, we've got too many people who have forgotten the purpose of the rights we have, or the understanding that they are god given and not a perk that our betters can take away from us.

Also, funny they are finally admitting to the Guillian Barre syndrome that we've known about for months now. I am not sure if this is just their willingness to sacrifice the J&J vaccine for the greater cause or if it's setting us up to accept that there must be casualties in every war and that we've all been drafted into the war against covid.
 
Lord of the Large Pants said:
My employer is trying to force me to get the vaccine. I live in a good, God fearing state, but the company headquarters is in an extreme blue city, and it's a relatively large company.

What are my options here? Should I just try to slide under the radar? Should I ask them if they're going to be financially liable for a vaccine they're forcing me to get? Should I give them my sob story about my mom almost dying from the vaccine (which is true)? Other?
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Yes,. ask for confirmation of this in writing. Spine up, do it, and call them out on their bullshit. Email HR, explain you know several people who have been very sick off work post the vaccines, ask for confirmation you will not need to take unpaid leave and that in the event of serious complications, in lieu of the manufacturers accepting liability, you want a guarantee that you will not be out of pocket for any medical costs or resulting costs such as necessary mobility aids, time off work, or potential loss of earnings.


Grow a spine already. Plenty of us have taken this stand already, it's not hard, just grow a pair and do it.


And toss in the anecdote about your Mom, it's a nice touch, and I hope she is better soon.
 
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Lord of the Large Pants said:
My employer is trying to force me to get the vaccine. I live in a good, God fearing state, but the company headquarters is in an extreme blue city, and it's a relatively large company.

What are my options here? Should I just try to slide under the radar? Should I ask them if they're going to be financially liable for a vaccine they're forcing me to get? Should I give them my sob story about my mom almost dying from the vaccine (which is true)? Other?
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Get a medical exception from a doctor. Tell him about your mother, any liver, blood, or heart issues you have.
 
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