Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Return of the Freaker]

Which is funny, actually, because if by Asians, you mean Muslims? Most of the Muslims I know (live in a community plagued by them) are very, very reluctant to get the vaccine. They simply don't trust it, and it's one of those rare "my enemy's enemy is my friend" moments for me.

Nah, I'm talking East Asians. Because obviously black people assaulting Asians and an incel shooting a massage parlor because it wasn't a "massage parlor" means that white supremacists are killing Asians because drumpf said "China virus" #StopAsianHate

 

[The High Prophet of Truth]

REVEALED: Google & USAID Funded Wuhan Collaborator Peter Daszak's Virus Experiments For Over A Decade.

Google has funded research conducted by Peter Daszak's EcoHealth Alliance – a controversial group which has collaborated with the Wuhan Institute of Virology on "killer" bat coronavirus research – for over a decade, The National Pulse can exclusively reveal.

t.co

https://archive.md/jo4Of

 

[Meat Target]

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REVEALED: Google & USAID Funded Wuhan Collaborator Peter Daszak's Virus Experiments For Over A Decade.

Google has funded research conducted by Peter Daszak's EcoHealth Alliance – a controversial group which has collaborated with the Wuhan Institute of Virology on "killer" bat coronavirus research – for over a decade, The National Pulse can exclusively reveal.

t.co

https://archive.md/jo4Of

The Habsburgs and Targaryens never reached this level of inbreeding.

I think it's better to be a pessimist proven wrong than an optimist proven wrong.

Words I live by.

 

[Pikachu For Prezident]

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REVEALED: Google & USAID Funded Wuhan Collaborator Peter Daszak's Virus Experiments For Over A Decade.

Google has funded research conducted by Peter Daszak's EcoHealth Alliance – a controversial group which has collaborated with the Wuhan Institute of Virology on "killer" bat coronavirus research – for over a decade, The National Pulse can exclusively reveal.

t.co

https://archive.md/jo4Of

...Dear fucking god. If that's true, then just how deep does this rabbit hole go? I know people have told me that this has been going on for a long time, but that doesn't stop me from being blindsided by each new potential revelation.

 

[JoseRaulChupacabra]

Apparently, another episode of (((Bret Weinstein's))) podcast was jannied by youtube. This time it's about adverse effects and other repurposed drugs that show promise. Select clips are up, though.

 

[Billy Beer]

Anyone else unable to shake the feeling that this is a lull, and that come Winter, things will decline significantly? I'm still unconvinced of the vaccines (the MRNA ones) safety, because as I understand it, mRNA vaccines have previously been unsuccessful, with subjects given them experiencing significant issues with adverse cytokine storms when exposed to whatever they were vaccinated for.

if I had to spitball and give my worst case scenario for Winter, it would be: Loads of vaccinated people experience this and die, it's pinned on "muh nyooo variantzz!!" and a ton of people die, making those who died WITH covid, WITHIN 28 DAYS OF A POSITIVE TEST look like nothing at all.

However, that said, I naturally lean towards pessimism anyway. Just, I can see something like this happening, and my friends who were right about it all thus far are saying very similar things, too.

I agree with all of this. My take on it is the winter Flu, which didn't hit us last year because of lockdowns and covid, is going to bite us all in the arse this year. I can see those who are vaccined having a compromised immune system vs Flu/Cold. Look how bad hayfever is this summer.

I think the vax will offer protection from Covid, but will mean the immune system will only half-arsedly defend itself from the Flu, leading to many, many people dropping dead - blamed on Covid obviously.

Which is funny, actually, because if by Asians, you mean Muslims? Most of the Muslims I know (live in a community plagued by them) are very, very reluctant to get the vaccine. They simply don't trust it, and it's one of those rare "my enemy's enemy is my friend" moments for me.

I've heard the same. A lot of them believe it's a trick to inject Muslims with non-hallal/Allah-approved material, which then voids their entry to heaven. It might sound crazy, but if you believed in Heaven, would you risk doing anything that would stop you getting in?

I don't care if it makes me selfish, I am not risking that for a virus that has such a tiny chance of killing me. If other people are at higher risk, then that's their problem, not mine.

It's not selfish, it's responsible. Nobody gives a fuck about the man next-door, but we all have to come together to save granny? I'm sorry people have died, but i don't care. Just as i don't care when people die in car crashes. It's sad, but i'll still drive the next day.

They win either way with all this, and are coining it in just now. I know so many people who have gone form happy, confident, having good careers, stable family lives, to wreckages. No job, no hope, completely depressed.

I want to know what's caused this and i see it a lot, in almost everyone i know. This hasn't just been caused by lockdown, shitty fast-food and isolation. There's something else causing it, and i have no idea what it is.

Normal people don't break after 3-4 months isolation. Basement dwelling nerds who live on their consoles, don't lose the will to live because they're doing what they've always done; be a shut in. In the case of one of my mates, he served in the army and did 12+ months in Iraq and Afghan. That changed him, sure, but these past months have broken him completely.

It's almost like a child who has had his first nightmare. He's scared, but also confused at what he's feeling. If that makes sense?

 

[Salubrious]

I agree with all of this. My take on it is the winter Flu, which didn't hit us last year because of lockdowns and covid, is going to bite us all in the arse this year. I can see those who are vaccined having a compromised immune system vs Flu/Cold. Look how bad hayfever is this summer.

I think the vax will offer protection from Covid, but will mean the immune system will only half-arsedly defend itself from the Flu, leading to many, many people dropping dead - blamed on Covid obviously.

I've heard the same. A lot of them believe it's a trick to inject Muslims with non-hallal/Allah-approved material, which then voids their entry to heaven. It might sound crazy, but if you believed in Heaven, would you risk doing anything that would stop you getting in?

It's not selfish, it's responsible. Nobody gives a fuck about the man next-door, but we all have to come together to save granny? I'm sorry people have died, but i don't care. Just as i don't care when people die in car crashes. It's sad, but i'll still drive the next day.

I want to know what's caused this and i see it a lot, in almost everyone i know. This hasn't just been caused by lockdown, shitty fast-food and isolation. There's something else causing it, and i have no idea what it is.

Normal people don't break after 3-4 months isolation. Basement dwelling nerds who live on their consoles, don't lose the will to live because they're doing what they've always done; be a shut in. In the case of one of my mates, he served in the army and did 12+ months in Iraq and Afghan. That changed him, sure, but these past months have broken him completely.

It's almost like a child who has had his first nightmare. He's scared, but also confused at what he's feeling. If that makes sense?

I think it's because there is a feeling not just of inescapablity, but that the entire world is against you if you question anything.

 

[Bosmadden]

...Dear fucking god. If that's true, then just how deep does this rabbit hole go? I know people have told me that this has been going on for a long time, but that doesn't stop me from being blindsided by each new potential revelation.

It's been going on for at least a decade.

The most obvious question, and the one not many are asking, is why did Obama shutdown gain of function research in 2014? Because the administration was worried about the dangers? So worried that they pumped hundreds of millions into the exact same research in fucking China? China!

They wanted to offshore the research because there would be no regulatory oversight or media scrutiny while they got on with what they really wanted to achieve, which had fuck all to do with developing treatments or vaccines.

Apparently, another episode of (((Bret Weinstein's))) podcast was jannied by youtube. This time it's about adverse effects and other repurposed drugs that show promise. Select clips are up, though.

Bret Weinstein is not an honest player IMO.

He was strongly for the lockdowns and the masks (still is as far as I know).

There is no evidence one way or the other that the lab leak was accidental or deliberate, but he makes declarative statements that 'it must have been an accident".

He continues to spout nonsense regarding Zoonotic viruses. Bats are literally the worst candidate animal species for a cross species pandemic to emerge from, but he hand waives objections.

He also massively over plays the severity of Covid, is a believer in long Covd and claims the bug is responsible for massive systemic multi organ damage in a significant percentage of the population leaving them crippled for life. This is hysterical nonsense.

On the other hand he's consistently argued in favor of the lab leak hypothesis since around June last year. He's also shown a degree of skepticism regarding the vaccines and has spoken strongly for treatment alternatives.

So take or leave I guess but remember who he is and understand there's always an agenda.

 

[Billy Beer]

I think it's because there is a feeling not just of inescapablity, but that the entire world is against you if you question anything.

Quite possibly. Seeing a fella who was in many a firefight with talibanies, watched his mate die and put up with all the shit the front-line hero's do, then seeing him fall apart because he had to sit in his house for 4 months?

Maybe you're right though, unable to question and unable to act.

It's been going on for at least a decade.

The most obvious question, and the one not many are asking, is why did Obama shutdown gain of function research in 2014?

That's a really, really good point. What made 'them' go "Shit! offshore all of this research ASAP!" ?

 

[Salubrious]

Quite possibly. Seeing a fella who was in many a firefight with talibanies, watched his mate die and put up with all the shit the front-line hero's do, then seeing him fall apart because he had to sit in his house for 4 months?

Maybe you're right though, unable to question and unable to act.

I can't imagine that scenario, and I won't even pretend to. In my uneducated opinion, it would be then like if your friend saw his mate die, nobody acknowledged it, and claimed he was a conspiracy theorist for saying it happened.

I think it's the gaslighting as much as the trauma, but I would also be insulting legit PTSD to say anything definitive.

 

[Billy Beer]

I can't imagine that scenario, and I won't even pretend to. In my uneducated opinion, it would be then like if your friend saw his mate die, nobody acknowledged it, and claimed he was a conspiracy theorist for saying it happened.

That's a good point. I suppose war is war and we know what war does to people.

Has there ever been a lockdown in a society before? Genuine question, in the history of man, have we ever locked down so much of society across so many countries?

 

[Lichen Bark]

I want to know what's caused this and i see it a lot, in almost everyone i know. This hasn't just been caused by lockdown, shitty fast-food and isolation. There's something else causing it, and i have no idea what it is.

It could also be a simpler reason, people tend to carry massive amounts of debt, and if they can't service it for whatever reason, business failing due to lockdowns, job loss, that could really affect someone's wellbeing. I think many many people going into this pandemic had close to zero emergency savings, that can't be a good feeling. Then if you have kids to look after and feed, doubly so.

 

[Hollywood Hitler]

Well if social distancing doesn't work it means the virus is either too contagious or not contagious at all so what is it? You guys are the experts.

The virus is contagious, but "social distancing" doesn't work.

 

[Salubrious]

It could also be a simpler reason, people tend to carry massive amounts of debt, and if they can't service it for whatever reason, business failing due to lockdowns, job loss, that could really affect someone's wellbeing. I think many many people going into this pandemic had close to zero emergency savings, that can't be a good feeling. Then if you have kids to look after and feed, doubly so.

That could be it as well.

We knew pre-pandemic that most Americans were living paycheck-to-paycheck. Here's an article from Forbes in December 2019 that said the number might be as high as 78%.

78% Of Workers Live Paycheck To Paycheck

Here's what to do if you're living paycheck to paycheck.

www.forbes.com

Now, imagine shutting everything down, and for the longest time they only gave us $1200, like that was supposed to sustain us when it was literally impossible to work anymore.

This has been one of the biggest transfers of wealth in history. The big businesses got a slap on the wrist and were allowed to continue as normal because they were "too big to fail." Meanwhile they made it where it was literally illegal for small businesses to be open, and the little leeway they gave, you got a five figure fine for even breathing funny. Then we are all supposed to be grateful that they ALLOWED us to return to normal, and they fucked up people so badly that a good percentage will be scared of COVID for the rest of their lives.

The rich get richer and the poor don't get a fucking thing. except being told how evil they are for "putting the economy ahead of 'safety'."

Billionaires got 54% richer during pandemic, sparking calls for "wealth tax"

The world's 2,365 billionaires enjoyed a $4 trillion boost to their fortunes the past 12 months, even as poverty surged.

www.cbsnews.com

The world's 2,365 billionaires enjoyed a $4 trillion boost to their wealth during the first year of the pandemic, increasing their fortunes by 54%, according to a new analysis by the Program on Inequality at the left-leaning Institute for Policy Studies.

Between March 18, 2020, and March 18, 2021, the wealth held by the world's billionaires jumped from $8.04 trillion to $12.39 trillion, according to the IPS' analysis of data from Forbes, Bloomberg and Wealth-X. Amazon.com founder Jeff Bezos, the world's wealthiest person, saw his fortune soar to $178 billion from $113 billion, or 57%, during that time, the study found. All told, the total wealth of the world's billionaire class grew 54% during the pandemic year, IPS reported.

 

[Plank]

HINO Viral Origin Evidence
Li-Meng Yan, MD, PhD, virologist and researcher, discusses the origin of the virus and it's implications.

She is the Chinese scholar who has been attacked by the legacy media and Democrats for the past year about her work on the origin of the virus.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/02/12/china-covid-misinformation-li-meng-yan/

How Li-Meng Yan's challenged claims about China and covid went viral …

archived 9 Jun 2021 13:53:59 UTC

archive.is

Scientists said claims about China creating the coronavirus were misleading. They went viral anyway.

Scientists from Johns Hopkins, Columbia and other leading American universities moved with rare speed when a Chinese virologist, Li-Meng Yan, published an explosive paper in September claiming that China had created the deadly coronavirus in a research lab.

The paper, the American scientists concluded, was deeply flawed. And a new online journal from MIT Press — created specifically to vet claims related to SARS-CoV-2 — reported Yan’s claims were “at times baseless and are not supported by the data” 10 days after she posted them.
But in an age when anyone can publish anything online with a few clicks, this response was not fast enough to keep Yan’s disputed allegations from going viral, reaching an audience in the millions on social media and Fox News. It was a development, according to experts on misinformation, that underscored how systems built to advance scientific understanding can be used to spread politically charged claims dramatically at odds with scientific consensus.

This Washington Post article attacking her would be hilarious if the subject matter wasn't so serious.

The Washington Post publishing reddit post quality Trump Derangement Syndrome content is completely unremarkable, but this disgusting editorial note included in the article from Rapid Reviews Covid19 is perfect example of how serious science has been damaged by TDS this past year:
Reviews of "Unusual Features of the SARS-CoV-2 Genome Suggesting Sophisticated Laboratory Modification Rather Than Natural Evolution and Delineation of Its Probable Synthetic Route"

Reviews of "Unusual Features of the SARS-CoV-2 Genome Suggesting Soph…

archived 10 Oct 2020 08:13:39 UTC

archive.is

This manuscript does not demonstrate sufficient scientific evidence to support its claims. Claims are at times baseless and are not supported by the data and methods used. Decision-makers should consider the author's(Li-Meng Yan) claims in this study misleading.

 

[clusterfuckk]

It's not selfish, it's responsible. Nobody gives a fuck about the man next-door, but we all have to come together to save granny? I'm sorry people have died, but i don't care. Just as i don't care when people die in car crashes. It's sad, but i'll still drive the next day.

This point exactly. I fucking hate when people come at you with ‘don’t you care about others?’
No motherfucker I don’t. I care about me and my family and that’s about it. Life is inherently risky and I’m not gonna spend my time being anxious about what my non action could potentially do to someone I couldn’t care less about.

Quite possibly. Seeing a fella who was in many a firefight with talibanies, watched his mate die and put up with all the shit the front-line hero's do, then seeing him fall apart because he had to sit in his house for 4 months?

Maybe you're right though, unable to question and unable to act.

That's a really, really good point. What made 'them' go "Shit! offshore all of this research ASAP!" ?

In Ontario we have been in some form of lockdown for 15 months. Kids have been in school for possibly 3 months of the 15. Children, especially teenagers who are used to being social are the ones who are getting depressed. Throw in the seniors who have been locked up in disgusting long term care homes for 15 months and you have a good group of depressed people. As the other posters mentioned; the most depressing thing in life is hopelessness, and when you feel that way because everyone is telling you that your questions about Corona are conspiracies; is gonna send some people spiralling.

The psy-op has been successful in many ways.

 

[Billy Beer]

This point exactly. I fucking hate when people come at you with ‘don’t you care about others?’
No motherfucker I don’t. I care about me and my family and that’s about it. Life is inherently risky and I’m not gonna spend my time being anxious about what my non action could potentially do to someone I couldn’t care less about.

When did not caring become a hostile action? I used to not care about anything, i still don't. But where i could stop someone in their tracks with a "I don't care", that's now an opening, for some reason, for people to moan at me for how much I SHOULD care.

"What do you mean you don't care about the virus? Do you know you're killing other people?"
"Tell them to get the vaccine then"

There's no self-responsibility any more.

In Ontario we have been in some form of lockdown for 15 months. Kids have been in school for possibly 3 months of the 15. Children, especially teenagers who are used to being social are the ones who are getting depressed. Throw in the seniors who have been locked up in disgusting long term care homes for 15 months and you have a good group of depressed people. As the other posters mentioned; the most depressing thing in life is hopelessness, and when you feel that way because everyone is telling you that your questions about Corona are conspiracies; is gonna send some people spiralling.

Same as us in the UK. 15 fucking months of this shit. More restrictions extended to July. I don't care about any of the other restrictions like track n trace and social distancing, but i am so fucking sick of these masks.

The psy-op has been successful in many ways.

I think it's more of a social experiment

"What happens to a population who are forced to live in pods. Do you they go mental after X days?" It's like OG fallout in real life

 

[Fliddaroonie]

Same as us in the UK. 15 fucking months of this shit. More restrictions extended to July. I don't care about any of the other restrictions like track n trace and social distancing, but i am so fucking sick of these masks.

Just stop wearing the mask if you do. Nobody can ask you why you're not wearing one. Nobody can make you wear a lanyard.

Nothing is enshrined in statute but Government advice is nobody can demand proof of your exemption. The long term harm caused by them can include destroying your teeth and oral health and given Dentists have nigh on shut down for over a year means dental issues will not get fixed. Ive a family member who gave birth just before all this started and her teeth are now a state, even though she flosses, and is super careful.

At some point our obligation is solely to ourselves. Fat people have had over a year to get on top of their weight. And there is a vaccine. I do not give a solitary fuck now about others and i never will now.

Everything about this is built on lies and i refuse to wear a mask to protect those too stupid to question anything.

 

[Salubrious]

When did not caring become a hostile action?

When "Silence is Violence" became a catch phrase.

Combine that with the "not good enough" effect. You can't just be not racist, you have to be "anti-racist." Tom Hanks published an article about how bad the Tulsa Massacre was, and an NPR dickhead actually replied "not good enough; you made movies about how white people aren't evil."

Opinion: Tom Hanks Is A Non-Racist. It's Time For Him To Be Anti-Racist

TV critic Eric Deggans says the Oscar-winning actor whose career has been rooted in films based on U.S. history needs to take responsibility for helping dismantle the notion of white exceptionalism.

www.npr.org

We have created a society where people are literally evil for being white (2/3 of the population), and if they try to argue, then "defending yourself is white supremacy! Just shut up and listen."

They have completely perverted language. Men are now better at being women than actual women, and to point this out means you are a bigot. Drag queens are on Nickolodeon for inclusion. Not supporting people breaking into stores and setting cities on fire is now racism. Police are told that preventing a black girl from stabbing another black girl to death is wrong. Intent doesn't matter; if someone thinks your mundane actions are -phobic, then they are and you aren't allowed to deny it. Subjective feelings overrule objective facts; they literally state objectivity is rooted in white supremacy and only feelings matter, but only the feelings of the left of course.

50% plus/minus 10% have basically been told that their viewpoints are evil and if they speak up in any way then they are the bad guys. I've said it in another thread, but Kiwi Farms is literally the only place I can talk about things like this. That's how bad it is now.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

I agree with all of this. My take on it is the winter Flu, which didn't hit us last year because of lockdowns and covid, is going to bite us all in the arse this year. I can see those who are vaccined having a compromised immune system vs Flu/Cold. Look how bad hayfever is this summer.

I think the vax will offer protection from Covid, but will mean the immune system will only half-arsedly defend itself from the Flu, leading to many, many people dropping dead - blamed on Covid obviously.

Yeah, fuck the lockdowns and fuck the uber-vaxxers, but that's not how it works.

Immunity is not a zero-sum game.