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Garm said:
The about face on coronavirus is probably so they can get back to "normal." Having millions of people sitting idle is really screwing them up.

Gates is a true believer in the climate change, contrary to the rest who pay lip service. Gates probably keeps disappointingly tsk tsk-ing every billionaire with a private plane. So he got shoved off the monolith to preserve their lifestyle.
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Bill Gates owns a private jet.

Thomas Highway said:
Good lord you're paranoid.


His wife finally got tired of his shit and left him because he's a sex pest. Once that was going to happen it would be in the public record.

You think the media is malicious, when really they're just lazy.
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His wife wants to continue with the foundation. Having Bill outed as a sex pest and a pedo lover is not good for either of them.
 
Incidences are dropping below 50 for all of Germany. Few places are still higher, ICUs are emptying out, things are looking good. Death rate has been decoupled from the incidence since mid of February.
So of course, the Branch Covidians are still fantasizing about "Long Covid Kids" and how schools are opening now for seven weeks until summer vacations, and how schools opening at incidences under 165 (!) is a crime against kids, and how our vaccination commission refused to recommend getting kids vaccinated unless necessary because of previous conditions.

Also fun how the media is doing a 180 on the lab-theory.
My biggest regret after this is over will be that the streets in Minecraft still won't be lined with the responsible politicians hung on lampposts with the entrails of journalists.
 
Menotaur said:
You are covering broad strokes and I can not help but feel your history of viruses is somewhat limited. Or their real effects on world economics and politics and how pandemics in the past have literally changed the course of history as we know it through secondary effects.

The concentration on if or if there was not a lab leak is warranted, but it is a back-burner issue. Yes - back-burner issue. Bottom of the pile.

It has been known for many years which viruses we need to be watching out for that would eventually make the jump and I can assure you we have many types of viruses that have previously existed, and that will exist that are far more of a concern than the inevitable one we have now. There are some real motherfuckers that have existed that are somewhere in the permafrost in some flesh, or perhaps an airborne hantavirus (See The English "Sweating sickness") is lurking under a burial chamber in someone's apartment in London. Or perhaps the virus Ebola that the Russians crossed with smallpox will get loose and then you'll see a 90% human population reduction with authority given to torch alive anyone who tries to cross over from the infected country. These are VERY real and do exist. Perhaps it will cross to swine and then aback again to fuck us harder. Not to say this one we have isn't a bad one - it is, but the idea it wasn't expected to arrive would not be true. It has been expected for some time and frankly is a little late to the party. Whether or not it was engineered, whether or not it was leaked.

The top scientists are not concerned with the origins as much as they are about what happens next with this virus and that's where their attention needs to be.

I do not know if you understand this fully; but this virus as it currently stands represents a serious threat to the global economy and to humans for a variety of reasons and could easily lead to not only war, but a decoupling of the global initiative. Much as the car changed the global economy, so can this virus change the human existence - simply because I would compare it to dangerous leggo set. Its parts are perfect for humans but it can take various forms.

I want you to consider for a moment a scenario in that it keeps mutating, and that it wipes out 2% of the global population each year for 20 years straight. Think of it like my friend last December that brushed off the virus in 24 hours, who is now in hospital with a variant and has 50/50 odds of living. Fact. Brushed it off in December 2020 and is now fighting for his life. And imagine it mutates to infect kids and kill them as often as it does adults, and that every time someone gets infected (and they are expected to get infected once per year), that the odds of permanent disability or diminished lung, nerve or brain function drop from 1 in 2,000 per year, to after 20 years 1 in 100. So that 1% of the global population that doesn't die is permanently disabled.

What happens if it mutates so that there is a 1 in a 100, or 200 odds that it kills your kid? Willing to make that gamble? That's a pretty brave gamble and it might come to that. Schools gone. economies gone. Millions of the workforce will be forced to stay at home and look after their kids. Governments will print money to hold up the place.

This is a scenario that could unfold unless we let the experts do their jobs and stop fucking taking away their time with stupid fucking questions and hearings or firing them because they don't say what you want to hear.

These are scenarios that are very real, and it would help to understand what is really behind global movements right now and here at home. We are possibly facing a very serious challenge to the global order of things and this is what at the forefront of their minds. Biden alluded to this in his State of Union if you listen carefully when he addressed the GOP specifically on the point of the virus. Listen.

So while you may or may not eventually find out if it came from a lab or not, this minor detail that pails in comparison to the real threat we may have - is what is at the forefront of those in charge. Lab or no lab be damned. We are talking about Chamberlain 2 years into the war.

This virus may just entirely upend the world as we know it and we are experiencing it in slow motion. The real news flash is what we've experienced barely qualifies as a first wave. Barely...

This virus will infect billions. And in the USA if we do not protect against the variants, we may well in 1 year be back to square one entirely with almost none of the population immune to the new variants - which historically (may not hold true but probably based on the direction we've seen) will be more deadly, and more transmittable and then the new wave will not crush, it will bury the hospitals. You won't have to die from it to suffer, secondary causes of death through economic hardship and a wiping out of economies will kill more than the virus over time.

I'd say rather than stupid fucking hearings on the capital by Politicians trying to score points as to whether or not they can catch Fauci double talking or backtracking instead focus on what it on the minds of the top virologists on Earth, and what Fauci will never say under the guidelines of national security in front of a camera.

And that is, "We might quite possibly all be seriously fucked. And you want me to invest my agencies time, money and efforts in order to know if Bruce Lee is to blame?!".

Gods speed on your inquest - it will solve nothing and solve nothing of what we are in the middle of or might be in years to come.
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lol you wrote all that shit
 
My country's colour-coded scheme says all our territories are in "yellow", which means "moderate danger" (because it's sunny and quite hot, what a surprise). I wondered when our gov't will stop this farce, but then I realized that even though it's a second-world country, we're in lockstep with the European Union, so only when they do it, we'll do it too.

Can you please tell that old hag Merkel that sie soll die Aubergine aus ihrem Arsch ziehen und anfangen Europa aufzuschließen, @Meriasek?
 
Thomas Highway said:
Good lord you're paranoid.


His wife finally got tired of his shit and left him because he's a sex pest. Once that was going to happen it would be in the public record.

You think the media is malicious, when really they're just lazy.
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Yeah IIRC the Social Cause Warrior in that relationship was Melinda. Bill was there to foot the bill and try not to let his 'tism leak all over. He was the one making eugenics noises after all. Looks like that finally cheesed her off enough that she decided half his shit and no Bill was the better deal.
 
NotSendingTheirBest said:
My country's colour-coded scheme says all our territories are in "yellow", which means "moderate danger" (because it's sunny and quite hot, what a surprise). I wondered when our gov't will stop this farce, but then I realized that even though it's a second-world country, we're in lockstep with the European Union, so only when they do it, we'll do it too.
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Everyone is always going to be in "moderate danger" or whatever under these systems, just like during the Bush years the US warned their citizens and the world there was an "elevated" risk of terrorist attacks. At least I only had to take my shoes off at the airport and not play pretend every time I want to leave my house.
 
I heard that the CDC isn't going to monitor vaccine recipients until they are actually hospitalized. I can't find any news articles though. Anyone else hear this?
 
Garm said:
I heard that the CDC isn't going to monitor vaccine recipients until they are actually hospitalized. I can't find any news articles though. Anyone else hear this?
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They will apparently only analyse positive tests of vaccinated people if the ct is below 28 instead of 35 or whatever they're using for the plebes.
 
Meat Target said:
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If it wasn't for the honknet, this coronapanic insanity couldn't be anywhere near as bad as it is.

The coof would likely have blown over like the swine and bird flus, which may have been more lethal than the coof (especially since "official" coof figures were inflated to make this "pandemic" seem bigger)...
 
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Save the Loli said:
Everyone is always going to be in "moderate danger" or whatever under these systems, just like during the Bush years the US warned their citizens and the world there was an "elevated" risk of terrorist attacks. At least I only had to take my shoes off at the airport and not play pretend every time I want to leave my house.
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Thus spake Eisenhower:
If all that Americans want is security, they can go to prison. They’ll have enough to eat, a bed and a roof over their heads. But if an American wants to preserve his dignity and his equality as a human being, he must not bow his neck to any dictatorial government.
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Thomas Highway said:
You think the media is malicious, when really they're just lazy.
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They're both lazy and malicious, the worst combination; they'll do everything they can think of in order to get back to not having to do anything more than the barest minimum.
 
Garm said:
Gates is a true believer in the climate change, contrary to the rest who pay lip service. Gates probably keeps disappointingly tsk tsk-ing every billionaire with a private plane. So he got shoved off the monolith to preserve their lifestyle.
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Gates is not a true believer in climate change anymore than Al Gore is. Climate change is a grift and it's an amazing grift for "Foundations" and NGOs. Most likely there is some kind of drama among TPTB. He also has been abusing the media as a podium for himself for years and one does not simply use the media without the media turning its hydra head on whoever happens to be riding it for too long.
 
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Garm said:
I heard that the CDC isn't going to monitor vaccine recipients until they are actually hospitalized. I can't find any news articles though. Anyone else hear this?
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For a “breakthrough” case (someone who has been vaccinated but develops Covid) reporting hospitals and doctors need to ensure

The PCR test is run no more than 28 cycles. The more cycles run the more likely a false positive.

A respiratory sample must be taken, sputum. No swabs
A breakthrough case will only be recorded where hospital inpatient care is required

The testing and reporting criteria for the non vaccinated is as previous. Swab up the nose and run it through the machine up to 40 cycles. No symptoms? Doesn’t matter still positive
 
Bosmadden said:
For a “breakthrough” case (someone who has been vaccinated but develops Covid) reporting hospitals and doctors need to ensure

The PCR test is run no more than 28 cycles. The more cycles run the more likely a false positive.

A respiratory sample must be taken, sputum. No swabs
A breakthrough case will only be recorded where hospital inpatient care is required

The testing and reporting criteria for the non vaccinated is as previous. Swab up the nose and run it through the machine up to 40 cycles. No symptoms? Doesn’t matter still positive
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Hey @Autopsy would really like to hear the input from a medical professional on this. What are your thoughts?
 
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