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Express RX-78 said:
Don't get me wrong, I think the coof is real, but a precedent has been set from now on and I wonder what can happen next.
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I said something like that too. Even if this endless coronapanic over this overblown scamdemic ever ends, it's the endless dystopia that is Current Year Clown World. There could be a cow flu from China, or a photospherevirus from China, and the corrupt tyrants who committed the crime against humanity that is the New Normal could bullshit everyone right back into another endless circus of "temporary" closures, lockdowns, muzzles, "social distancing", and "trusting the science" yet again. Then the vaccines could conveniently come out, with another circus over that too. And all the while with any new Clown World "pandemic", soyboys, Karens, and other blind follower cultists virtue signal and enforce the New Normal.

ToroidalBoat said:
spaceship off this crazy planet?
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What's fucked up is 50% of this country learned a hard civics lesson in 2020 that they will never EVER repeat.

The other half has been primed to fall instantly in line as soon as another pandemic rolls around.
 
Express RX-78 said:
The COVID response was a complete mistake. Emotion and fear trumping logic at the cost of millions of people's livelihoods, ruining the economy, and mass paranoia. The most interesting thing about this entire pandemic to me is that it proved that governments and the media have the ability to make millions of people think and do whatever they want without question. Don't get me wrong, I think the coof is real, but a precedent has been set from now on and I wonder what can happen next.
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You wonder what can happen next?
www.weforum.org

What COVID-19 teaches us about cybersecurity – and how to prepare for the inevitable global cyberattack

A COVID-style global cyber pandemic is coming. Here are 3 lessons from the coronavirus crisis on how the world can better prepare for it.
www.weforum.org www.weforum.org

Our "new normal" isn’t COVID-19 itself – it's COVID-like incidents.
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But perhaps the most important lesson: COVID-19 was a known and anticipated risk. So, too, is the digital equivalent.
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It is an interesting read for sure.

ToroidalBoat said:
I said something like that too. Even if this endless coronapanic over this overblown scamdemic ever ends, it's the endless dystopia that is Current Year Clown World. There could be a cow flu from China, or a photospherevirus from China, and the corrupt tyrants who committed the crime against humanity that is the New Normal could bullshit everyone right back into another endless circus of "temporary" closures, lockdowns, muzzles, "social distancing", and "trusting the science" yet again. Then the vaccines could conveniently come out, with another circus over that too. And all the while with any new Clown World "pandemic", soyboys, Karens, and other blind follower cultists virtue signal and enforce the New Normal.
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Humanity basically failed the last couple of shit tests.
 
The lolcows of the Daily Stormer goes on a small rant about the vaxx.
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Vaxx Causes Heart Inflammation in Young Males – CDC Monitoring the Situation

It's just a minor issue, folks. Heart inflammation. It might be bad to have an inflamed he...
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It’s just a minor issue, folks.

Heart inflammation.

It might be bad to have an inflamed heart, but that is nothing compared to the deadly coronavirus, which has killed nearly as many people as Hitler.

It’s a Hitler virus!

Get the vaxx, folk!

The Guardian:

Some teenagers and young adults who received Covid-19 vaccines have experienced heart inflammation, a US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention advisory group said, recommending further study of the rare condition.
In a statement dated 17 May, the CDC’s advisory committee on immunisation practices said it had looked into reports that a few young vaccine recipients, predominantly male adolescents and young adults, developed myocarditis, an inflammation of the heart muscle.
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In the Philippines there are reports of illegal sales of COVID vaccine:

www.yahoo.com

Philippines investigating illegal sale of COVID-19 shots, vaccine slots

The Philippines is investigating reports that some people have been illegally selling COVID-19 shots or their vaccine slots for financial gain, officials said on Saturday, as they reminded the public the vaccines are free. Law enforcers learned of the illicit activity through social media posts...
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ToroidalBoat said:
Speaking of, this whole coronapanic circus really does feel so scripted.
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Hippopatumus said:
What's fucked up is 50% of this country learned a hard civics lesson in 2020 that they will never EVER repeat.

The other half has been primed to fall instantly in line as soon as another pandemic rolls around.
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Sadly, I think it’s closer to 30-35 percent learned a lesson and the rest either don’t care or are good little comrades and report on their neighbors. I’m so sick of people in the US who act completely unamerican, if they’re so unhappy with freedom of choice and taking risks perhaps they should relocate somewhere else in the western world that is more suitable for their need to be told what to do? I’m sick of being called unpatriotic or evil for wanting to live my life and giving people the choice to live theirs. This country country was founded on the inalienable right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, the covid cult is against all 3 of those things.
 
Super-Chevy454 said:
The lolcows of the Daily Stormer goes on a small rant about the vaxx.
dailystormer.su

Vaxx Causes Heart Inflammation in Young Males – CDC Monitoring the Situation

It's just a minor issue, folks. Heart inflammation. It might be bad to have an inflamed he...
dailystormer.su dailystormer.su
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Extracellular S1 component of the spike protein is found freely circulating in 100% of those vaccinated with the mRNA and viral vector vaccines. Here's what the S1 component does

SARS-CoV-2 spike protein S1 induces fibrin(ogen) resistant to fibrinolysis: Implications for microclot formation in COVID-19

Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-Cov-2)-induced infection, the cause of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), is characterized by unprecedented clinical pathologies. One of the most important pathologies, is hypercoagulation and microclots in the lungs of patients. Here we...
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Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-Cov-2)-induced infection, the cause of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), is characterized by unprecedented clinical pathologies. One of the most important pathologies, is hypercoagulation and microclots in the lungs of patients. Here we study the effect of isolated SARS-CoV-2 spike protein S1 subunit as potential inflammagen sui generis. Using scanning electron and fluorescence microscopy as well as mass spectrometry, we investigate the potential of this inflammagen to interact with platelets and fibrin(ogen) directly to cause blood hypercoagulation. Using platelet poor plasma (PPP), we show that spike protein may interfere with blood flow. Mass spectrometry also showed that when spike protein S1 is added to healthy PPP, it results in structural changes to β and γ fibrin(ogen), complement 3, and prothrombin. These proteins were substantially resistant to trypsinization, in the presence of spike protein S1. Here we suggest that, in part, the presence of spike protein in circulation may contribute to the hypercoagulation in COVID-19 positive patients and may cause substantial impairment of fibrinolysis. Such lytic impairment may result in the persistent large microclots we have noted here and previously in plasma samples of COVID-19 patients.
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We know that in severe cases it's causing acute clotting syndromes, including embolitic and hemorrhagic stroke. Long term chronic effect? Who the fuck knows.
 
Bosmadden said:
Sunk cost fallacy, they panicked when the CCP ran a scare campaign that the Kung Flu was airborne AIDS and looked like gullible fools when it tuned out it was only fat boomers dying, combined with a great opportunity to be rid of the orange man. The election was gamed in Biden's favor by the mass, insecure postal vote, which was only allowed because of the coof.

I also don't understand why they kept going with the lockdowns after President Dementia's coronation? Maybe they wanted to keep a good thing going but realized we were slipping into an economic depression so were forced to pull back?
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I want to believe this is the case but countries like mine (Canada) and more specifically Ontario; are doubling down on this bullshit despite the US lifting all restrictions. We are now being held hostage by vaccination rates and even then the decision to give us our freedom back is arbitrary and decided by corrupt PH officials.
Bosmadden said:
At best they may reduce the replication rate by increasing the numbers of asymptomatic carriers, but that is a very big stretch and is unproven up til now.
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Funny how the masking and social distancing was all because ‘Muh asymptomatic spread‘ and now they are saying the vaccine reduces spread by creating more asymptomatic cases.
Yet so few see this as sus?
 
Bosmadden said:
They may be effective preventatives of severe illness in high risk groups. I say may as we really won't know that until the next wave hits us, which will be due in around 18 months (when the Covid strains find a work around for latent T-cell immunity). The mass vaccinations coincided with natural suppression caused by herd immunity (around a quarter of the population have already contracted the disease), so we should be skeptical as to whether the reduction in case numbers has anything to do with the vaccines.
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Campbell (accidentally) proved without a doubt, that the numbers had already gone down dramatically before the vaccinations started in the UK. Numbers dropped in September-November, by the time vaccination started in February?, the numbers were just cruising along and didn't drop further by any staggering amount.
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annoyingfuck said:
Campbell (accidentally) proved without a doubt, that the numbers had already gone down dramatically before the vaccinations started in the UK. Numbers dropped in September-November, by the time vaccination started in February?, the numbers were just cruising along and didn't drop further by any staggering amount.
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Yep, we're seeing natural suppression caused by herd immunity. The first wave of the pandemic was over by February People think that the vaccines will stop them contracting Covid when that absolutely is not what they're designed to do. If Covid follows the normal re-infection path of the other circulating Coronaviruses we'll be experiencing the second wave around November/December 2022.

Overly Serious said:
What's the difference between an antibody resulting from the mRNA or viral vector vaccines which targets the spike protein, and one from actual exposure to the disease itself? Does not all Covid-19 have that spike protein and therefore the immune system primed to fight the spike protein also fight the real disease? Does the immune system recognize some part of Covid-19 other than the spike when it gets real exposure and this matters for some reason?

Note, I have no background in medicine - talk to me like I'm smart but ignorant.
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Apologies for not being more specific

What's the difference between an antibody resulting from the mRNA or viral vector vaccines which targets the spike protein, and one from actual exposure to the disease itself?
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The issue is that resistance isn't to the spike protein but to the nucleocapsid portion of the virus. There is mounting research that suggests that this is the case, and if correct the entire vaccination program will have proven to be an expensive waste of time.
 
Bosmadden said:
Apologies for not being more specific



The issue is that resistance isn't to the spike protein but to the nucleocapsid portion of the virus. There is mounting research that suggests that this is the case, and if correct the entire vaccination program will have proven to be an expensive waste of time.
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I guarantee that they will cook the numbers as many times as they have to in order to cover their own asses. There’s no way the powers that be will allow the public to see us “conspiracy theorists” were right the whole time. They’re already getting egg on their face for the gain of function research and can’t keep that boxed up no matter how many times they say it’s “debunked.” They must really think they’re screwed if they’re going to throw fauci under the bus now, it’s probably to distract from the death vaccines and corruption in the government and healthcare industries to give dangerous experimental treatments when effective and safe medication exists.
 
PittyKitty said:
What? You cant make this shit up even if you tried. So now vax "kills" antibodies?
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Bosmadden said:
This has been "debunked" by Reuters

www.reuters.com

Fact Check-Red Cross is accepting plasma from people vaccinated against COVID-19

The American Red Cross confirmed to Reuters that they are allowing people who have received the COVID-19 vaccine to donate plasma (the liquid component in blood, https://www.redcrossblood.org/donate-blood/dlp/plasma-information.html ), contrary to claims on social media...
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TLDR Reuters is stating that the Red Cross is accepting plasma donations from the vaccinated but they're not using it to make convalescent plasma unless it contains Covid antibodies. Fine but that doesn't actually address whether or not the vaccines are killing off natural Covid antibodies, although it does show that those getting the shots are NOT producing Covid antibodies. Most people I discuss this with assume they're making Covid-19 antibodies when they're vaccinated, when I tell them they're not they accuse me of being a science denier lol.

Anyway you can go read the Red Cross statement and it contradicts the Reuters debunk.

www.redcrossblood.org

What to know about the Coronavirus and Blood Donation

American Red Cross faces a severe blood shortage due to an unprecedented number of blood drive cancellations during this coronavirus outbreak. Healthy individuals are needed to donate now to help patients counting on lifesaving blood.
www.redcrossblood.org www.redcrossblood.org


I'm puzzled as to why the Red Cross needs to announce they won't be accepting convalescent plasma donations from the vaccinated when they will routinely test all such donations for antibodies anyway? This seems to me to be a blanket rule and includes all plasma donations. It's protocol that the recently vaccinated aren't allowed to donate blood but to refuse plasma donations from anyone who's been vaccinated with the Covid shots is definitely not normal.
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Positive update: Brother's father-in-law is doing better now, still in the hospital but no longer in critical condition. I didn't want to get my hopes up too early, but considering how many therapies are out there now to help treat severe cases, I'll admit to not being super concerned. Like I said, he's not a landwhale, just a bit overweight, and he doesn't have anything else that could compromise his immune system to my knowledge, though I wouldn't be surprised if he were vitamin D-deficient.

Sorry to blogpost and such, but I didn't want to leave anyone hanging if they were curious.
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Good lord. Yeah, inject your 8-month-old with experimental drugs, why not? What are they doctors of, gender studies?

I'm pretty sure we'll never actually find a smoking gun to confirm the lab origin hypothesis, though it remains damn suspicious despite all the conspiracy theory screeching. The only way we might find it is if the Chinese ineptitude that leaked the coof in the first place also made them leave behind evidence.
 
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