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I don't understand why he can't just shut the fuck up. Why does the media keep giving him a platform? They're intentionally fanning the flames of conspiracy theorist types. (Who may or may not be right about Gates and the Jade Helm lizard people NWO.)

If you want people to submit to your vaccines, and not believe it's all a plot, stop putting Bill Gates on the news. The left/progressive types have always been terrible at messaging.
They do it because they know that a good chunk of the population either doesn't think about things critically or are extremely susceptible to media propaganda and shaming (especially people, specifically the young and women, who are super active on social media). When you can set the narrative that anyone who questions something must be a kook, that's what goes down in the public consciousness and just reinforces the idea. The media loves to have people that they can call conspiracy theorists whether or not they even are that. They love the people who think that the earth is flat because those same people probably also think that Bill Gates is a lizard person (I still haven't heard him deny it though) from Neptune, and then they can always find sound bites and clips of these same people who may also question this rushed vaccine for this non-plague.

You can then reverse engineer this and tie it together so that people like Rachel Maddow, Trevor Noah, Jimmy Kimmel, and Don Lemon can use it as ammunition to say things like "And here's a clip of a science denier who probably thinks that Bill Gates is trying to put 5G signals in the vaccine" and come off as looking rational compared to the crazies that are the ones handpicked to represent dissenters. A guy like Gates faces no consequences, he serves as a lightning rod. The people who abide by the sacred word of the media don't need to be convinced, it's the people who disagree that need to be made unfashionable and crazy.

At the end of the day the people who want everyone to get the jab are confident that they'll be able to shame or force everyone to submit to doing so. They may be overconfident in doing so, but they're not entirely crazy (in my opinion) to think that they'll succeed in it.
 
My grandmother's taken a turn for the worse and is now in the ICU, and my mother was basically forced to agree to a DNR--not that I have anything wrong with DNRs and I definitely don't want my grandmother barely clinging to "life" and prolonging any suffering, but they literally said they're still so short on staff and resources that they're still prioritizing patients because of COVID.

I also was not able to see her because the woman at the front desk did not know what the fuck she was doing and thought that "one visitor" meant "one visitor, period" and not "one visitor at a time", so my mother went in by herself. The woman said "but when she goes in you can FaCeTiMe with her!" I'm sorry but I do not want the last time I see my grandmother to be over the phone, not that she'd even be able to see or hear me anyway considering she's not only hard of hearing and seeing in the first place but she's also sedated and out of it. I'd rather have my last memory of her be when I hung out with her in her bedroom last week, no masks, laughing and having a good time.

Why the fuck were we locked down for months? Why the fuck were hospital staff laid off and life-saving appointments and procedures cancelled or postponed? What the fuck was the point of everything that was done (or rather not done) in 2020? Oh wait let me guess it was all TRUMP'S FAULT.

No, I blame the Chinese for allowing their disgusting citizens to spread COVID across the globe and the WHO, the CDC and the Democratic governors who thought combating racism was more important than combating disease, because that's what fucked up our healthcare system, and that's why I probably won't be able to say goodbye to my grandmother before she dies. You can't rate me MOTI on this subforum but you can do it in spirit, that's fine with me.
 
Maskers have been getting way more friendly to me of late in public. It's weird. I still get a not-insignificant number of people who clutch their masks to their face and glare at me as I pass, and people who I think are scolding me but I'm not sure because I'm listening to music and they're not faster than me, but I'm also now routinely getting masked-up old people who give me a friendly wave and a hello as I pass. Maybe they're assuming I'm vaccinated or something?


Or they’re me. I’ve given up on the mask thing mostly and I live in Florida, but I’m in one of the three counties that was slightly harsher than the rest of the state about masks. I barely wear one and only where it’s easier to wear it (Home Depot, Costco, the liquor store) than to be that guy.

Coincidentally, those three counties have the most snowbirds from the northeast. So I expect massive changes in about a month and a half and I am looking forward to it. Local bars are starting to get good again with bands and lots of people.

The people waving at you are the ones saying “this is stupid, good on you for dealing with it”. But they’re also people who are concerned about being vilified on social media or CNN for their jobs or similar.
 
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Or they’re me. I’ve given up on the mask thing mostly and I live in Florida, but I’m in one of the three counties that was slightly harsher than the rest of the state about masks. I barely wear one and only where it’s easier to wear it (Home Depot, Costco, the liquor store) than to be that guy.

Coincidentally, those three counties have the most snowbirds from the northeast. So I expect massive changes in about a month and a half.

The people waving at you are the ones saying “this is stupid, good on you for dealing with it”. But they’re also people who are concerned about being vilified on social media for their jobs or similar.
Oh, fair actually. For some bizarre reason I hadn't thought of the don't-believe-in-masks-but-socially-pressured-to-wear-one possibility. Social and legal pressure are both extremely high in this area for mask-wearing (I believe I could technically get a ticket or a fine or something for my escapades) so that's probably it.
 
Oh, fair actually. For some bizarre reason I hadn't thought of the don't-believe-in-masks-but-socially-pressured-to-wear-one possibility. Social and legal pressure are both extremely high in this area for mask-wearing (I believe I could technically get a ticket or a fine or something for my escapades) so that's probably it.


Yeah my point is even in Florida, and we’ve done it okay, there’s pressure for masking and it’s generally easier to say fuck it and wear a mask til you get a beer.
 
Somebody has been spouting off weird statistics, and claiming that Ontario Public Health, which up to January was running its PCR at 30 cycles, upped to 35 in Feb, and is now at 38 in Mar. Any truth to this?

Their math looks wrong, but I'm shit for math. More of a linguist... Here's a copy-pasta of one of their recent posts about one of the rags who accepted the "Media Bailout" bribe from Trudeau.

On Thursday, March 25, Public Health Ontario reported the gross case count for Wednesday March 24, which was actually:​
— An additional 2,100 confirmed cases​
— An additional 17 deaths​
— An additional 1,329 confirmed recoveries​
We had a gross case count of 15,047 "active" cases. Active only means it needs to be a "presumptive" case, that has been determined to have trace of an immune response floating in their system, which is an interesting wrinkle.​
Of these 15,047 cases, only 893 were symptomatic to a degree requiring hospitalization. The remainder, some 14,154 people were forcibly caused to maintain their captive state for an indefinite term, but in no way less than 14-days. These are "suspected cases" whose medical guilt is assumed, there has been no warrant issued for their detention, and these detainees are not provided the right to counsel or their simple habeas corpus right. There is no evidence of their ACTUALLY posing a threat to the health and safety of others in the community. Just fear based on "projections" based on theory inconsistent with reality.​
So, to recap:​
They are "testing" for evidence of an immune response using a PCR test running at 38 cycles. Even Fauci (the loving proponent of PCR) has concede that you will get an exponential rate of false positives, and actually the results become utterly unreliable (more false positives than true positives returned) at anything above 30 cycles.​
Public Health raised to 35 in February, and is now cruising at 38 cycles.​
— On Mar24, we had 893 symptomatic cases warranting hospitalization.​
——— On Mar24, we thus had [15,047 - 893] or 14,154 presumptive, aka asymptomatic, cases.​
Let's do some simple math:
— 893/15047*100= 5.93473782149266%​
——— 5.94% (THIS IS THE RATE OF SYMPTOMATIC INFECTION)​
(You won't be admitted to the hospital on a fear of infection, you have to actually be symptomatic)​
— 14154/15047*100 = 94.0652621785073%​
——— 94.07% (THIS IS THE RATE OF ASYMPTOMATIC INFECTION)​
(These are the people conned into consenting to solitary confinement)​
And as for the magical "260 previous cases" (like the Michigan poll watcher that "..reported that over 130,000 ballots for Biden were brought into the voter center at 4:00 AM.") Those are irrelevant, as they came from ANOTHER TIME.​
Don't you idiots at the Star know simple math? You are very unintelligent, you're generally peddling fear porn, you know? If you were REAL reporters, you would make a noise about the 14,154 people being detained by way of an extrajudicial sentence to​
solitary confinement for an indefinite length of time, without the right of habeas OR appeal, and further subject to penetrative medical procedures via the Nasopharyngeal rod (sorry, "swab") rammed into your nasal cavity.​
I repeat:​
14,154 people were detained because there were 893 patients ALL OVER ONTARIO in the hospital, most with multiple comorbidities.​

PS: I can barely tell with the contrast (or lack thereof) on your Dark theme what the weight (bold/regular) and highlighter (to select and embolden strings) of the typeface is, so I hope it makes sense with the feel.

The TLDR of this is that Ontario had on March 24, 14,154 people detained in solitary confinement, without trial and without habeas for an indefinite sentence, and moreover subject to forced medical procedures all on the presupposition that because there is evidence of an immune response in the detainee's body, s/he is a presumed positive case.

But because they have no symptoms, they cannot be admitted to the hospital, but because 813 people are in the hospital, 14,154 must go into quarantine. We quarantine the symptomatic, not the healthy, is the gist I'm getting from their posts.

But, are those numbers correct? a 5.94% rate of symptomatic COVID-19, but a 94.07% rate of asymptomatoc infection?

And then we have AstraZeneca claiming success by an alleged 79% success rate at preventing symptomatic COVID-19 infection. They (think they are affiliated with Saccoccia, the rumored drug dealer and grifter, so that's an automatic caution) claim that Public Health Ontario has a control-group data-set of over 300,000 individuals, which has returned an innate 95% success at preventing symptomatic COVID-19 without a vaccine.

Their allegation is that the AstraZeneca therapeutic (at 79% efficacy) is not more effective than the control group (at 94% efficacy). The AstraZeneca is, I think, the jab being rolled out by the military in Ontario.

Are there any numbers people here? I cannot decipher this rationally.

Edit: Corrected a few transcription typos, Reduced the control group for the day to a 94% efficacy. My bad, bleary eyed. :(
 
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Styx bitchuted about the msm who label corona-chan "permanent pandemic".

That bitchuter dropped a comment who might be worth to save.
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"Permanent Pandemic"!? Christ, it's so blatantly an ongoing cover/excuse for the "Great Reset". Utterly laughable if it wasn't so tyrannically tragic.
 
Some nice lad on 4chan made a template! Thanks again /wsr/. Question for kiwis who know stuff about printing: Do I need a special printer to print on cardstock or can I just put cardstock paper in a normal printer? Sorry im dumb lol. Anyhow I dont think I will use cardstock because you can just get it lamented for free.
According to the one of the Covid sites it should be printed on 120# card stock and the measurements are 4.25" x 3.5", so go nuts in Minecraft babe.
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My grandmother's taken a turn for the worse and is now in the ICU, and my mother was basically forced to agree to a DNR--not that I have anything wrong with DNRs and I definitely don't want my grandmother barely clinging to "life" and prolonging any suffering, but they literally said they're still so short on staff and resources that they're still prioritizing patients because of COVID.

I also was not able to see her because the woman at the front desk did not know what the fuck she was doing and thought that "one visitor" meant "one visitor, period" and not "one visitor at a time", so my mother went in by herself. The woman said "but when she goes in you can FaCeTiMe with her!" I'm sorry but I do not want the last time I see my grandmother to be over the phone, not that she'd even be able to see or hear me anyway considering she's not only hard of hearing and seeing in the first place but she's also sedated and out of it. I'd rather have my last memory of her be when I hung out with her in her bedroom last week, no masks, laughing and having a good time.

Why the fuck were we locked down for months? Why the fuck were hospital staff laid off and life-saving appointments and procedures cancelled or postponed? What the fuck was the point of everything that was done (or rather not done) in 2020? Oh wait let me guess it was all TRUMP'S FAULT.

No, I blame the Chinese for allowing their disgusting citizens to spread COVID across the globe and the WHO, the CDC and the Democratic governors who thought combating racism was more important than combating disease, because that's what fucked up our healthcare system, and that's why I probably won't be able to say goodbye to my grandmother before she dies. You can't rate me MOTI on this subforum but you can do it in spirit, that's fine with me.
The bureaucrats that went along ignoring the science and the doctors and nurses not standing up for patients deserve a lot of blame too.

Plenty have stood up, but hold those fucks that didn't accountable too.
 
I honestly don’t see how they can keep this going in the US even through the end of this year much less next, since in Florida it’s gonna be July at the latest, and the rest of the country is already showing that they’re watching all this and asking, why them and not us. And summer is when the rest of the country goes *outside*. If Florida was going to see a “surge” it’d start in July because that’s when we go inside.
 
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There were Many reasons why they stopped seeing patients for important procedures. Listed in order of most impactful.

1. healthcare professional orgs refusing to treat patients without (at the time) scarce covid tests. So simple cowardice.
2. patients scared and cancelling
3. Overreaction hospital admin taking resources away from other things to make empty covid wards.
 
I've been in a hospital twice during covid and both times they were complete ghost towns. We're talking like five or so people I saw during my entire visit.
 
eugh this is of kind of sensational reporting that scared my dimwit NPC mom. Now she really think if I don't get the vaccine I will die or get in the ICU.
Hence global case of hospitalisation are still decreasing, what is probably happening is the very old being majority vaccinated, the younger one(and when I mean young it 60-50 year old) start to get being the majority in hospital bed. So vaccine do work but the media being the media they always spin a good new into a catastrophic situation
thank god on of the comment bring me faith in humanity
(google translate becuase I'm a lazy bum)
Article worthy of the Journal de Montréal
This morning I thought I had the wrong newspaper ... sensationalist article, without supporting numbers, mixing statistics and reporting testimonies ...
Please be more precise in what they mean in the "most" cases, of people in intensive care, compare with short-term figures (1 month) and not with March 2020 ...
protect yourself from COVID and protect yourself from the psychosis spread by these kinds of articles.
 
eugh this is of kind of sensational reporting that scared my dimwit NPC mom. Now she really think if I don't get the vaccine I will die or get in the ICU.
Hence global case of hospitalisation are still decreasing, what is probably happening is the very old being majority vaccinated, the younger one(and when I mean young it 60-50 year old) start to get being the majority in hospital bed. So vaccine do work but the media being the media they always spin a good new into a catastrophic situation
thank god on of the comment bring me faith in humanity
(google translate becuase I'm a lazy bum)
Article worthy of the Journal de Montréal
This morning I thought I had the wrong newspaper ... sensationalist article, without supporting numbers, mixing statistics and reporting testimonies ...
Please be more precise in what they mean in the "most" cases, of people in intensive care, compare with short-term figures (1 month) and not with March 2020 ...
protect yourself from COVID and protect yourself from the psychosis spread by these kinds of articles.
If your mom is so worried about covid you should just cough all over her. It seems to scare off the branch covideans
 
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