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That's exactly the sort of thing I was looking for, thanks. Really helps that the conclusion states that their study was conducted on 300nm particulate as well since it effectively shoots down the idea of the masks being a prophylactic measure against the flu too (which has particle sizes from 80-120nm).
 
Save the Loli said:
They get what they support, honestly. If they believe the best solution is absolutely destroying the economy and the lives of billions of people all so grandma and some hamplanets can live another year then they deserve to lose their freedom, their livelihoods (assuming they had any), and every single hip ethnic food truck and barcade or wherever the hell these people like to go to. They love konsooming korporate kock so much than they can konsoom even more korporate kock because big corporations will be the only game left in town. They can watch their parents' money dry up and move back to their evil oppressive wasteland ghoul town they thought they left for the paradise that is Portland or Austin or wherever. Maybe they'll look back and learn that "property can be replaced, lives cannot" is a really stupid belief.

It's just a pity everyone else has to live in the world these morons helped create and advocate for.
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They know what they support and the end game they think will happen. But they do not understand what cards will fall to get there. These are people who say Stalin was actually good, Venezuela is not eating garbage to survive. They think they can collapse the economy because it is “fake” and then their unicorn space communism utopia will magically happen without any hardship.
 
What annoys me about the mask totemism is this: The entire point of surgical masks is that you wear them to stop your potential infection spreading to other people. They're highly effective at that. Medical staff don't wear PPE to stop them catching things from you, they primarily wear it to stop you catching things from them, and they are supposed to change the important parts (mask, gloves, headgear, apron) between each patient to stop the potential spread of disease from one patient to the next.

They work most effectively when people voluntarily don them when they're feeling sick, or in an environment where the people wearing them are properly trained in their use.

They don't work at all when they become a mandated virtue signal, or fetish (in the religious sense), because then people will treat them as a magic totem that protects them from the diseased masses, and abandon reasonable, preventative behaviours the moment they have the mask on their face.

It wouldn't surprise me, incidentally, if there was an increase in preventable diseases in hospital settings, thanks to the mask rationing that took place earlier in the year. There are still shortages of PPE even now.
 
One third of all Wisconsin restaurants are looking at having to close shop for good, especially now that warm weather is ending and places are pulling up their outdoor seating. Schools open, then are quickly shut down again. I go to the corner store and they still have the warning not to enter without a mask, but the last two times I haven't put mine on, and they don't care. And I don't care.

The buses are still running with max 15 passengers which causes issues with finding a job; when the first of the month rolls around, it's usually packed full with moms & their strollers. Because it's Welfare Time, those folks get up early for once, and my bus transports the north side project dwellers to the Gibs Center on the way to downtown. Ofc I would wear a mask around those stinky cretins, that's the nice thing about the rule to wear one on public transport (in the winter I use my scarf to keep out the stench). It's hard to be on time when you have to wait for the next bus because capacity has been reached.
 
General Disarray said:
One third of all Wisconsin restaurants are looking at having to close shop for good, especially now that warm weather is ending and places are pulling up their outdoor seating. Schools open, then are quickly shut down again. I go to the corner store and they still have the warning not to enter without a mask, but the last two times I haven't put mine on, and they don't care. And I don't care.

The buses are still running with max 15 passengers which causes issues with finding a job; when the first of the month rolls around, it's usually packed full with moms & their strollers. Because it's Welfare Time, those folks get up early for once, and my bus transports the north side project dwellers to the Gibs Center on the way to downtown. Ofc I would wear a mask around those stinky cretins, that's the nice thing about the rule to wear one on public transport (in the winter I use my scarf to keep out the stench). It's hard to be on time when you have to wait for the next bus because capacity has been reached.
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Doesn't Wisconsin's mask mandate end at the end of this month?
 
General Disarray said:
One third of all Wisconsin restaurants are looking at having to close shop for good, especially now that warm weather is ending and places are pulling up their outdoor seating.
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That's horrifying, especially for all the people employed as waitstaff, food prep workers, dishwashers, etc. Major feels for them. :feels:

In my city, downtown restaurants apparently received temporary permission to expand their outdoor dining areas in response to the rules that limited capacity to 25% initially and then 50% (I believe) at present. A good idea in theory, but these outdoor areas have run amok.

One restaurant was able to convince the city to close an underutilized side street just so they could expand their dining area into half of the now-vacated street directly in front of their restaurant. Another cafe added outdoor dining it never had before . It takes up so much of the sidewalk that it's impossible for someone walking past the restaurant to be more than six feet away from diners sitting at the edge of the fencing separating them from the general public unless they walk in the street -- a street busy enough to require a traffic light on that very corner.

Although I haven't seen it myself, I've heard that at least one restaurant created outdoor dining space by using the parking spaces in front of it -- including 1 or 2 handicapped spaces. Regardless of the potential ADA violation in doing that, it's quite shortsighted when the city has previously admitted there's a shortage of on-street parking downtown during the summer and other peak activity periods.

You raise a good point that it will be interesting to see what happens when it becomes too cold for outdoor dining to be viable and what the impact will be for restaurants still under capacity restrictions when outdoor dining ends. Most restaurants see some sort of drop-off in their bottom line in the winter months as it is. COVID restrictions will likely exacerbate that.
 
behavioral swamp thang said:
This shit is fucking with my head. You cite sources explaining that corona is a nothing burger, and people say that your source could have been paid by conservative lobbyists. WTF? So every scientist that isn't a doomer is also a Trump supporter? Everyone is acting like absolute religious zealots.
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Because at the end of the day the Left are just a bunch of monkies aping already established methos (of anything, really) without actually knowing the concept of it.
I'll give examples:

-The Phalanx Formation (seriously, umbrellas?)
-Disproving someone's arguments by showing bias (in the fucking studies they cite, while using their affiliations as supporting evidence - you need the first one, not the 2nd)
-Protesting (it's for awareness, not to be a shit on people on purpose)
-Memes (it's to connect to everyone on an individual level via conveying common emotions/commonly watched shit, not an attempt to signal being witty or some banal faggotry).
-Being Smart (READ NIGGA READ)
 
derpherp2 said:
Because at the end of the day the Left are just a bunch of monkies aping already established methos (of anything, really) without actually knowing the concept of it.
I'll give examples:

-The Phalanx Formation (seriously, umbrellas?)
-Disproving someone's arguments by showing bias (in the fucking studies they cite, while using their affiliations as supporting evidence - you need the first one, not the 2nd)
-Protesting (it's for awareness, not to be a shit on people on purpose)
-Memes (it's to connect to everyone on an individual level via conveying common emotions/commonly watched shit, not an attempt to signal being witty or some banal faggotry).
-Being Smart (READ NIGGA READ)
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Add anyone who unironically says "I fucking love science!" when talking about simple ideas, or uses the phrase "The Science" when they attempt to shut down disagreement.
 
With the peak of hurricane season approaching, wonder how they will spin the Wuflu thing on people evacuating, mostly from Florida. Would the count be on the state the person moved on, or where the person is from...?
Who am I kidding, its obviously the former to inflate numbers for the decline. Or both.
 
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The Atlantic can suck a dick.
 
lol Last May The Scatlantic had to lay off employees because a bracing demise in advertising. Maybe the Scatlantic must accept reality and plan for its shutdown.
 
behavioral swamp thang said:
That why I am so scared this will last forever. I can just hear it now, "If we save just one life, it's worth it"
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I hate that argument so much simply because humanity has already made that compromise countless times. To do otherwise is to lock ourselves in bubbles. Yet if you bring up all the other examples, they stick their fingers in their ears and screech this is just soooooo different.
 
Got this email feed a little while ago. Have redacted some identifying information. Believe Newsom will be fucking the state over on this for at least the next year. He will find/make up any reason he can think of to hurt as many Californians as possible - unless he is recalled. There's no science at work here - all political control.

Expect the line for food bank food Monday to be very long again. I keep seeing the neighbor kids playing outside a lot during the day. Guess their online schooling isn't worth anything. Glad as hell son and family escaped CA, otherwise he'd still be out of work and up against it. Personally am affected but little, but seeing how others are suffering without justification bothers me.




Six months after he first ordered the shutdown of the County economy to help prevent the coronavirus from spreading here, Dr. Ed Moreno (who makes almost $350,000/year, and hasn't missed a paycheck - JS) said he “can’t anticipate” when the county might be able to loosen the restrictions that remain in place.

The first shutdown order went into effect at 12:01 a.m. March 18 and “would last three weeks,” Moreno’s office said at the time.

But with schools and many businesses still closed, indoor dining at restaurants prohibited, and thousands of county residents either out of work or making do with greatly reduced incomes, Moreno was asked on a Friday conference call whether some of those restrictions might be lifted by November.

"This pandemic has had its moments when it’s changed and been unpredictable,” making it difficult to know what’s coming next, Moreno said. And with the Gov. Gavin Newsom (who also hasn't missed a single paycheck - JS) deciding when and where counties can reopen their economies, it’s also hard to know what he’ll do.

“As the pandemic has evolved, the state has changed the metrics and criteria for tightening or loosening restrictions, and there could still be changes in the months ahead in the manner in which the state guides counties through this pandemic to simultaneously slow the spread but also encourage opportunities for our businesses to reopen.”

Three days before those remarks, Moreno told the board of supervisors the county’s coronavirus numbers have been declining. But data released during the week show that there are still lots of new cases, and we remain a long way from what the state will require before our economy can move from what is called the Purple Tier of economic shutdown (the most restrictive) to the Red Tier.

This morning, the county health department announced 83 new cases of coronavirus infection among county residents, bringing our total to 9,550. One week ago, the total was 8,990. Of the 560 cases during the week, 468 have been in the Valley, and 36 have been on the Peninsula. (So why would anyone in their right mind get tested? I sure as hell am not. I don't want any part of seeing a lot of good people hurting due to "cases". -JS)

Beyond the raw numbers, the case rate has also increased. Last Sunday, based on county data, our 7-day average of new cases per 100,000 residents was 13.0. This week, it is 17.2. (The governor’s threshold for moving to the next level of shutdown is 7.0, and to qualify, we would have to stay there for three straight weeks.)

While the state uses a different database and different formulas to calculate our “official” case rate — and its numbers never quite match what the county health department says — there can be no doubt that, for the moment, at least, we are moving in the wrong direction. (We'll be moving in the wrong direction forever. Newsom will just change his criteria again. Recall him. - JS)
 

(Reuters) - The United States set a one-day record with over 1 million coronavirus diagnostic tests being performed, but the country needs 6 million to 10 million a day to bring outbreaks under control, according to various experts.

The country performed 1,061,411 tests on Saturday, according to data from The COVID Tracking Project, a volunteer-run effort to track the outbreak.
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Yes, we need to test 2-3% of the entire US population EVERY SINGLE DAY.

Get the fuck out of here.
 

The NCAA Division III men’s soccer program was suspended on Saturday evening pending the outcome of an investigation stemming from potential COVID-19 policy violations. In addition to the team’s interim suspension, six SUNY Brockport students will receive individual interim suspensions.

College officials say that they learned from Brockport Village Police of a gathering in the Village that reportedly consisted of over 50 people not wearing masks or social distancing. No citations were issued.

Pending the results of the investigation, the men’s soccer will have to stop all team functions, including practices, workouts, team meetings, etc. The only exception to the interim suspension for the individual students as well as the entire men’s soccer team is the requirement for all to report to campus in order to take part in the college’s pool surveillance testing.
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OMG, 50 college students were seen together?

Suspend fucking everyone!
 
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