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Hollywood Hulk Hogan said:
These people unironically believe it's a world-wide conspiracy to make Trump look bad
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I don't think there's even that much logic to it. This is just animal denial of the terrifying. That goat in the lead isn't scared, so why should we be? The scent of death must be from something else.
 
Iwasamwillbe said:
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Like your "peer-reviewed" Facebook doctor post?
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Since when does reading a chart correctly require peer-review?

You guys can just admit you were reading this chart wrong anytime now. You can't possibly be this stupid. Covid caused the additional conditions on 94% of the charts of the dead patients. It's not a hard concept. I know you guys can get this.
 
Hollywood Hulk Hogan said:
Since when does reading a chart correctly require peer-review?

You guys can just admit you were reading this chart wrong anytime now. You can't possibly be this stupid.
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Now you're trying to jump away from your previous double standard of asking for peer-reviewed studies from your opponents while requiring none from yourself.

It's very obvious, and you should stop.
 
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This thread can't decide if peer review documents are the only trusted source or if they're useless.

Name-calling means you've lost the argument because at that point, you're just angrily lashing out.
 
Iwasamwillbe said:
Now you're trying to jump away your previous double standard of asking for peer-reviewed studies from your opponents while requiring none from yourself.

It's very obvious, and you should stop.
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Your position makes zero sense. Reading a chart correctly doesn't require peer-review, while claiming shit like covid doesn't actually kill anyone who isn't high risk or masks don't work sure as hell does.

Are you actually defending the OP here, or are you just being obtuse as usual?

BillionBisonBucks said:
You need peer review on why reading things wrong is wrong?
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He's not exactly known for being smart around here

nanny911 said:
This thread can't decide if peer review documents are the only trusted source or if they're useless.

Name-calling means you've lost the argument because at that point, you're just angrily lashing out.
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Hey now, they tagged me in this thread and called me names. I refuted the OP pretty well, and they just got assmad and called me names, so I am now returning the favor.
 
BillionBisonBucks said:
You need peer review on why reading things wrong is wrong?
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Hollywood Hulk Hogan said:
Your position makes zero sense. Reading a chart correctly doesn't require peer-review, while claiming shit like covid doesn't actually kill anyone who isn't high risk or masks don't work sure as hell does.
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No, I'm talking about requiring your opponents to prove their claims with peer-reviewed studies, whereas you can just claim they're reading things wrong because muh Facebook doctor said so. I.e. double standards.
 
Iwasamwillbe said:
No, I'm talking about requiring your opponents to prove their claims with peer-reviewed studies, whereas you can just claim they're reading things wrong because muh Facebook doctor said so. I.e. double standards.
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Except the doctor explained, very thoroughly, about how to read the chart. The OP (and most of the people in this thread) read the chart wrong and totally misinterpreted the data. The doctor explained, again, very thoroughly, about how to read the chart and why their conclusions were completely wrong.

I know you can get this. You might be slow, but you aren't THAT slow. Come on now. It's not a hard concept.
 
I suggest these people start opening up before someone with nothing to lose decides to burn everything down.
 
Hollywood Hulk Hogan said:
Except the doctor explained, very thoroughly, about how to read the chart. The OP (and most of the people in this thread) read the chart wrong and totally misinterpreted the data. The doctor explained, again, very thoroughly, about how to read the chart and why their conclusions were completely wrong.

I know you can get this. You might be slow, but you aren't THAT slow. Come on now. It's not a hard concept.
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Translation:
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Hollywood Hulk Hogan said:
Except the doctor explained, very thoroughly, about how to read the chart. The OP (and most of the people in this thread) read the chart wrong and totally misinterpreted the data. The doctor explained, again, very thoroughly, about how to read the chart and why their conclusions were completely wrong.

I know you can get this. You might be slow, but you aren't THAT slow. Come on now. It's not a hard concept.
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I can see what your Facebook doctor meant and still laugh at you for bleeding from your bussy about it. I'm Tim Pooling this bitch.
 
Iwasamwillbe said:
No, I'm talking about requiring your opponents to prove their claims with peer-reviewed studies, whereas you can just claim they're reading things wrong because muh Facebook doctor said so. I.e. double standards.
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OK, so yes, you want a peer reviewed study on the proper method of reading medical textbooks.
 
I believe that COVID kills people, but lots of things kill people, and everyone dies of something, sometime.

About 10 years ago, an elderly relative of mine went into hospital after a fall and ended up dying from a respiratory disease that she caught in there. I don't think they even tried to find out what it was because, guess what? She was over 80, and the elderly die from shit like that all the time.

The relevant question is not "can COVID kill people?" but "is it so deadly that much of the planet should shut down for months on end, that people should remain cowering in their homes, wearing muzzles on the streets and maintaining 2m distance from one another at all times?"

My answer is Fuck No, and I'm not sure that any disease could justify such a response tbh. Better to die on your feet than live on your knees.
 
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HTTP Error 404 said:
There was rumors early on that it fucks with your fertility if you're a guy - no idea if it's true, though.



They're trying to outlaw it by regulating it to death SUPER FUCKING QUICKLY.
  • You aren't allowed to hire a tutor for your kids
  • You aren't allowed to have more than 5 kids in a room at the same time homeschooling
  • A parent MUST be in attendance at all times
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At the one hand, it's avoiding people just creating schools and calling them homeschooling pods. On the other, it's also them very blatantly working to hamstring homeschooling to "some tradcon wife and her 1-3 kids being raised to be stupid rednecks because fuck non-liberals."
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If the government keeps fucking with small businesses like this all they will succeed at doing is making a massive black market for basic stuff to avoid paying taxes and these stupid regulations.
 
Hollywood Hulk Hogan said:
Except the doctor explained, very thoroughly, about how to read the chart. The OP (and most of the people in this thread) read the chart wrong and totally misinterpreted the data. The doctor explained, again, very thoroughly, about how to read the chart and why their conclusions were completely wrong.

I know you can get this. You might be slow, but you aren't THAT slow. Come on now. It's not a hard concept.
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You still haven't addressed the double standard you tried to pull here.

And "muh Facebook sports doctor" was already addressed by this poster here:
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This is stupid. Your quote tries to explain the *symptoms* of covid away as the comorbidities that are reported, but no one is dying of covid that doesn't present symptoms. The 6% should be reported as 0% if all symptoms are considered comorbidities, but that's obviously not how this works.
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You just mumbled about how all that was already addressed by muh Facebook doctor when it really wasn't.

Reading the writings of muh Facebook sports doctor again, especially this part:

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If we are truly being scientific that number is probably high and it is probably 0% that COVID ALONE is the source of death. Let's explain that.....

Typically one does not die solely from an infectious disease. Typically you may get one or more of the following from getting infected: sepsis (an infection in the blood), respiratory failure (your lungs give out), you get a pneumonia that also causes your lungs to give out, you have heart failure, your kidney or liver stops functioning correctly and then you die. Those are all possible diagnoses IN ADDITION to the infection (in this case COVID but we can substitute flu, measles, hepatitis, etc).
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All I can say right now is:
HeyYou said:
I mean, this just proves that the reason covid is dangerous isn't because it kills people really well, it's that it spreads very well and that allows it to spread to people who have conditions that will make them more likely to die.

Scaremongerers who said it was a fucking holocaust of a disease are definitely dumb, though, and this gives people evidence to say that.
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AnOminous said:
Pure fucking retardation. According to this moron logic nobody ever actually dies of a heart attack because almost anyone who has a heart attack also has other shit wrong with them.
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Saying that one does not die *solely* of a disease because that disease causes symptoms (which is something diseases cause by nature) is frankly asinine, and likely betrays a fundamental lack of genuine medical knowledge.

Also, correlation does not necessarily mean (direct) causation. There may be cases where the coronavirus more-or-less directly caused the body to start failing, there may also be cases where the coronavirus simply exacerbated problems that were already there, likely due to the high-risk factors (the aforementioned "preexisting obesity, uncontrolled diabetes, poorly controlled asthma or other chronic lung disease that could lead to respiratory failure because the lungs are already fragile, as a few examples").

Then again, we're assuming this guy is genuine and not just LARPing (how the fuck did you find him anyway).
 
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