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i can't find one bottle of hand sanitizer for myself and i have been to 10 stores.

for the people who have bought out all of the hand sanitizer: die and kys
 
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Is it not more marginalizing to risk spreading the virus even further?
 
Watching the PSG - Dortmund match right now. It's so odd watching a football match with nobody in the stadium. It's like the weirdest balance between "the show must go on" and maintaining safety, and all it really does is highlight how...not normal this sort of thing is.
 
Ok, I've just had my share of apocalyptic shit for the rest of my life. Hearing "We alert all the citizens to stay home because it's the only way to block the virus spread", from the speakers of a Civil Protection truck that slowly makes its way in my street at night is something that I never thought I would hear.
 
still catching up on this thread but just wanted to add that my university in the southern area of the States has extended our Spring Break by a week in order to "prepare" for campus health precautions blah blah blah AND when we return that it will be virtual instruction

i'm not complaining, but the consensus in the class group chats is mostly "it's a respiratory disease that doesn't affect kids lol y panic this is dumb" and the like
 
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Otterly said:
The main thing is just that they can’t treat everyone. They aren’t even assessing the over 60s. Sixty is not old, people are dying because the health service is overwhelmed. There may be effects from social practices like kissing hello, or smoking, or demographics, but most of it I bet is just overwhelm. What I’m hearing out of Lombardy is shocking, utterly shocking. I am staggered, and horrified by it.

I cannot say this strongly enough. This now is the point of explosion. If you can - Stay home. Keep the vulnerable home. Avoid any and all gatherings of people. If you’ve got kids, keep them home. Take vitamin D. Wash your hands. Take your shoes off at the door. Get your groceries delivered or go at a quieter time.

any country that hasn’t closed down absolutely everything non essential is now on a course to be like Italy in a fortnight.

You know ive been fairly calm this whole thread. I’m not prone to panic. So this is me telling you now : Stay home, if you can. If you need to lie through your arse to your employers and the kids schools, do. No ones coming to check you’re coughing. We have two weeks to serious, catastrophic overload. Please, fellow kiwis, stay home. Godspeed. It’s about to get very bad.
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You know, it's funny you saying that. Because I get that impression as well.

Today is kind of Day '0' - at least where I am in the UK. And I live in the the second highest most infected area, London being the first.

I'm not panicked. But tonight's the night as Neil Young said. No, that's not right. Today's the day! That's it.

The lady in the shop was looking at me a bit sideways as whe was pumping me for information. I told her that I was self-quarantining. But she didn't dismiss me outright. It was more a kind of 'what does he know that I don't know' kind of look.

And that's the thing. I've been following this since January. Crunching my own numbers. I've been active on some other very active forums as well that are giving good info on this. I know what time it is, boyeeee!

She has just caught up. But it's more than what she is reading in the news. This is word of mouth. It's friends on the internet. Like me she's a Gen-X'er so not a boomer.

It sucks that I already am a little bit ill, but I've been like this for a few years now. Auto-immune can creep up on you slowly, especially if it is mild. But I'll ride it out before going in to any doctor's surgeries I think.

I can't put any more food in my cupboards - they are bursting. In fact I need to clear a couple out for new deliveries in a few days. I've got some Hydrogen Peroxide and I'm going to make up a small solution to spray down my goods, then clean them off with all that TP I've been hoarding! J/K - but I've got a lot of kitchen towels for the purpose.

Self-quarantining now, ASAP, after you have supplies in is the best thing to do. Little measures like spraying goods with Hydrogen Peroxide are inconvenient and may not help much, but they will help a bit.

Don't forget to keep everything clean. Reason being, when you came back from the shop a day or two ago this virus might have plumped itself on your surface tops. So clean it down. Wash your hands after everything. Keep the toilet seat down when flushing because it's airborne in faeces and what you might have flushed out and got away with you might just breath back in again to get properly infected.

It's a virus. It's size is so small you can not imagine. It will attach itself to whatever it can freeload off before hitting the mother lode - your body!

It's not sentient. It doesn't need to be. It's just damned devious.


Maybe in a few days time we will all know a little better what we are dealing with. But there is no cure or vaccine, not until next year at least, by which time it will have moved on again probably.


My heart goes out to those working in the medical fields. Those keeping the lights on. Those mopping the floor. They are at the very front line, doing their duty, while we hide away in our little hovels. But it's better for everyone that those of us who are not infected, do not become infected. By making sure of that we will be doing our very small part.
 
heavycream said:
Had two cases in Oxfordshre and Swansea (each)- at their respective universities.
A high school in Farmborough (Berkshire) shut down for a week after a panic due to two students coming back from italy with flu symptoms, though they turned out not to be confirmed cases.
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Swansea University has a very large Asian/Chinese contingent because of the subjects they teach. Engineering is very big.

I would imagine that Oxford is the same, even if they do get a better class of chink there. Studying Mathematics and whatnot.

This virus does not discriminate (between the very brainy and the merely brainy).

Students have poor hygiene. They are rushed and concentrating on work not cleaning their room, bucko!
 
Coronavirus chimpouts happening in Thailand!
Hundreds of starving wild monkeys fight over a single piece of food in Thailand

This is the astonishing moment hundreds of starving wild monkeys scramble for a single piece of food because of the coronavirus outbreak.

The primates are normally well fed by tourists in the city of Lopburi, central Thailand, but visitors have plummeted because of the virus sweeping the world.

So when one of the primates had a juicy banana, the entire pack roaming around the streets surrounded the creature this morning (March 11) and tried to grab it.

Footage shows how hundreds of monkeys began tussling for the snack. When one of the animals fled with it, the creatures chased it up a grass bank.

Even locals who are used to seeing the creatures were shocked by their ferocity.

Onlooker Sasaluk Rattanachai captured the scene from outside a shop where she works.

She said: ''They looked more like wild dogs than monkeys. They went crazy for a single piece of food. I've never seen them this aggressive.

''I think the monkeys were very, very hungry. There's normally a lot of tourists here to feed the monkeys but now there are not as many, because of the coronavirus.''

Lopburi is home to thousands of wild monkeys that roam the streets and buildings. Many live on the grounds of the city's ancient Buddhist temples.

Last month it emerged that wild monkeys in Thailand were suffering because of the coronavirus causing tourist arrivals to plunge by 44 percent.

Primates living in a public park in Songkhla, southern Thailand, are usually well fed by visiting tourists from Malaysia and China.

However, the spread of the COVID-19 coronavirus has all but stopped the arrival of tourists to the area, where they would normally feed the wild monkeys.

Kind locals stepped in on Tuesday (Feb 26) evening to give the monkeys fresh watermelons and tomatoes.
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benutz said:
It's time to take stock.

Whether we like it or not.

This may be a kind of the reckoning many of us have been 'praying' for, for a while.
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Will we see a massive cull of the old and infirm? Will we see this thing mutate and cause cytokine storms in the very young and healthy just like the 3rd wave of Spanish Flu? Is it even possible we might get a constantly fighting diseases (even though they aren't there) would eradicate this thing quicker?

I'm not so sure. It's an interesting question. There are nearly a 100 different types of auto-immune diseases, from very mild to quite life threatening. I've heard it's not a good thing to have with this new 'lurgy' going around.

It seems that about 10 percent of the population at large worldwide, have some kind of auto-immune problem.

This is all depending on where you live of course. And at what particular stage the Pandemic is where you live.

Now is the time to look after family and friends. You may not even know some of them have auto-immune problems (some people don't like to admit these things) ...
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This virus is not going to take out the "old and inferm..." Or necessarily people with auto-immune conditions per se.

It is going to take out the Silents, Boomers and Gen X-ers, who have well lived-in bodies. Many of whom have interesting stories to tell and so much love to give. The kinds of people who were exposed to gas in basic training, older TB survivors who are the center of their immigrant families, members of medical teams exhausted from exposure and weakened from fighting infectious diseases in the past, devoted religious leaders who don't cancel services, Gen X-ers who smoked a lot back in the day and have cool stories to tell etc. Devoted community leaders who knew the risks, school teachers, availing themselves to serve their low-income students. Police, firefighters, social workers ... anybody who knows the risks and puts the needs of others before self.

Strong chance it will ravage communities of homeless.

It will spare wealthy elderly, surburan Karens, politicians. retired corrupt administrators, foul narcissists of any age. People who we would like to reduce to vapor and ash.

It will also kill younger people with any preexisting lung or kidney condition. Before they ever had a real chance.

So no, this isn't the cull we want.
 
exhausted said:
I haven't given you guys an update in a while, nothing that important happened since then. Here's everything that happened this week
Campus updates, location: A northeastern City, USA
  • The COVID task force was mobilized (Exact official wording, not mine.)
  • Any air travel is discouraged, any at all, doesn't matter where you're going.
  • All classes have been cancelled, everything is now online until further notice.
  • My school is closing tomorrow, instead of Sunday, for spring break.
    • It's staying closed until mid-April
    • Any international students from high risk areas are staying here, but all dining halls are closed
  • All gatherings of more than 15 people is forbidden.
  • Unrelated to my school, the first death happened in my state.
Edit: I don't want to powerlevel, so I'm going to clean up the official email I got this afternoon.
Classroom Instruction
  • Beginning Thursday, March 12, to Sunday, March 22, all classes are canceled.
  • Beginning Monday, March 23, to at least Friday, April 3, all course instruction will online. All face-to-face instruction is suspended. This includes any class meetings.
  • Individual instructors are expected to be in contact with their students regarding their plans for online classes prior to March 23.
Campus Activities
  • Students living in dorms should leave campus as soon as possible. Students are strongly encouraged to remain off campus until April 3. The University understands that leaving campus may not be possible for everyone, and we encourage anyone with concerns to contact the student housing office on your campus.
  • Beginning Thursday, March 12, events and in-person meetings involving groups larger than 15 participants are cancelled.
  • No new non-essential events should be scheduled until further notice.
  • Athletic directors are instructed to follow the guidance of their respective athletic conferences.
Travel
  • We strongly suggest that all members of the community reconsider any upcoming domestic travel, especially to areas where there has been a significant incidence of COVID-19.
  • All international spring break programs are canceled.
  • All students in third-party study abroad programs are strongly encouraged to return.
  • All international travel sponsored by (College) is suspended.
  • Any member of our community returning from a country designated Level 3 by the CDC is required to self-isolate for 14 days before returning to campus.
The COVID-19 Task Force continues to monitor this situation and is updating guidance daily. Further details will be coming from each chancellor.
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im getting the fuck out of the city and back into the forest tonight, semper fidelis kiwis :semperfidelis:
 
Medical Hawaii said:
still catching up on this thread but just wanted to add that my university in the States has extended our Spring Break by a week in order to "prepare" for campus health precautions blah blah blah AND when we return that it will be virtual instruction

i'm not complaining, but the consensus in the class group chats is mostly "it's a respiratory disease that doesn't affect kids lol y panic this is dumb" and the like
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wow. hopefully most zoomers aren't that fucking dumb.

professors are old, you still run the risk of spreading to townies, families, or, yknow, kids that have preexisting conditions. the US is obese as fuck, that in itself is considered a risk factor. the people in your class sound like assholes.
 
pull over dat ass too fat said:
wow. hopefully most zoomers aren't that fucking dumb.

professors are old, you still run the risk of spreading to townies, families, or, yknow, kids that have preexisting conditions. the US is obese as fuck, that in itself is considered a risk factor. the people in your class sound like assholes.
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Apparently one of the chats started a petition for the school to do something (I mute most of the chats), so I'm glad not all of them are of that mind. Waiting for someone to bring up the fact that we have a fair amount of international students (especially from middle east and China) here that would have just come back from their home countries for the new semester before the travel bans, and then everyone to jump on them for racism lmfao
 
I'm definitely starting to get genuinely worried about this I'm sorry to say.

I think it's safe to say we're well past the point of Ebola in 2014, aren't we?
 

Health Secretary Matt Hancock answers questions for an hour in Parliament this evening.
 
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