Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[dopy]

No. China's reputation as a budding great power has been knocked in the dirt. Every YouTube video of CCP WuFlu atrocities showed China's not ready for prime time and may never be. Any "dicksucking" on social media was likely instigated by CCP workers in China and other countries.

A great power doesn't arrest doctors who raise valid concerns. A great power doesn't weld people into their homes. A great power doesn't pull people off the street and shove them into a windowless metal box on the back of a pickup truck. These things have been out for all to see, including national leaders.



Added to avoid a double post - Holy shit! Oil's at 30.62/barrel per the Wall Street Journal web site.

agree to disagree with the first part for various reasons.
as far as the oil price goes, look's like tomorrow's when the real selloff will begin:

Spoiler: CNBC front page right now

the morons at the fed on wallstreet are finally starting to price in the actual impact of coronachan. get your pocketbooks ready, boys.

also lol at the "How to clean your phone" link

 

[beautiful person]

Hmm, so the coronavirus is a 2A advocate.

Fearful of a Coronavirus Backlash, Some Asian Americans Are Stocking Up on Guns

Outbreaks in Washington and California have motivated first-time gun buyers — many of them Asian Americans worried about racist attacks stemming from fears about the virus.

www.thetrace.org

Fearful of a Coronavirus Backlash, Some Asian-Americans Are Stocking …

archived 7 Mar 2020 23:35:08 UTC

archive.vn

As the number of confirmed COVID-19 cases continues to multiply, many Americans are emptying store shelves of hand sanitizer, bleach, and canned goods. But there’s an acute fear among Asian-Americans that the virus’s origins in China will spark a violent xenophobic backlash. Along the West Coast, where the worst outbreaks of coronavirus in the United States have occurred, those fears seem to be spurring a surge in gun sales.

“People are panicking because they don’t feel secure,” said David Liu, who is Chinese-American and owns Arcadia Firearm and Safety, just east of Los Angeles. “They worry about a riot or maybe that people will start to target the Chinese.”

Liu said his store had seen a fivefold increase in sales over the past two weeks. He’s sold out of Glock handguns, and some customers have asked to buy his entire inventory of ammunition branded for home defense. “They think it’s Costco,” he said.

According to Liu, his customers are overwhelmingly of Chinese descent. They worry, he explained, that in the event of mass panic, they might face violence because of their ethnicity, and be easy victims because of historically low rates of gun ownership. Surveys of gun ownership don’t usually track Asian-Americans separately, but instead include them in an “other” category that is typically very small.

As The Los Angeles Times has reported, since the first novel coronavirus outbreaks in the United States, Asian-Americans have experienced intensifying venom, including bullying, racist comments, and harassment. And, on February 24, a man of East Asian descent was assaulted in central London. One of the assailants reportedly said, “I don’t want your coronavirus in my country.”

“The main thing I’m hearing is that they don’t want to get jumped because of their race,” said Cole Gaughran, the internet sales manager at Wade’s Eastside Guns in Bellevue, Washington. Gaughran said his store has seen a sixfold increase in sales in the same two weeks. His new customers, most of them first-time gun owners, were almost entirely of Asian descent, he said. Bellevue is just a 15 minute drive from Kirkland, where 11 people have died from the virus.

There’s no way to get an accurate accounting for how many people buy guns on a weekly basis, or in real time. However, in Washington, local police departments do process background checks for most first-time gun buyers. In Bellevue, police say they’ve registered the spike in demand. Meeghan Black, the Police Department’s public information officer, said that since August of last year, the department has processed a steady average of around 158 checks per month. But in the first four days of March, they handled more than a hundred.

“The officer who processes these checks said he’s been processing the last ten years, and has never seen anything like this in his life,” she added.

In nearby Lynnwood, Washington, the local police department saw no such increase in firearm sales. But at least one local gun shop did.

Tiffany Teasdale, the co-owner of Lynnwood Gun and Ammunition, said she, too, has seen a sixfold increase in sales over the past two weeks, predominantly from Chinese-American customers. “We’ve had a line of customers before opening Thursday through Sunday, and customers in the store until 10 to 15 minutes after closing.” she said. “We used to sell from 10 to 15 firearms in a weekend. [We sold] 60 firearms just [last] Saturday.”

Teasdale said that nearby stores had seen increases as well, and her distributors had run out of 9mm ammunition. “It’s been happening for the last four or five days,” Teasdale said.” A lot of our distributors nationally are saying that all of their warehouses are empty. None of them know why.”

So far, police departments and civil rights groups in cities experiencing increased gun sales have received no reports of violent attacks against Asians, they say. The Bellevue Police Department said it hadn’t received a single complaint since the first U.S. case of coronavirus made headlines.

Robin Engle, a spokesperson for OneAmerica — a Seattle-based nonprofit focused on immigrant rights — said that while the organization was aware of people avoiding Asian restaurants, it had not heard about any hate crimes in the Seattle area.

When told about the reports from gun-store owners, she said, “It is alarming that people are afraid that that can happen to the point that they’re going out and buying guns.”

I don't mind Asians with guns

Broke: Making fun of Chinese cuisine for a possible role in the virus's origin is racist.
Woke: Adopting OCD-level Asian cleanliness rituals in response to the virus's spread is cultural appropriation, also racist.

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[roxitp0w3rwuzdabest420]

I don't mind Asians with guns
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They shall return in our hour of need to protect their gas stations and laundry mats.

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full playlist here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLi6CEnfKaSffQkYE52OsYJlRaLxoca5r ALL CREDIT GOES TO WAR AESTHETICS FOR NOW https://www.youtube.co...

www.youtube.com

 

[Positron]

 

[Jarolleon]

Broke: Making fun of Chinese cuisine for a possible role in the virus's origin is racist.
Woke: Adopting OCD-level Asian cleanliness rituals in response to the virus's spread is cultural appropriation, also racist.

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Aren't OCD Asian cleanliness rituals appropriated from late 19th early 20th century West by immigrants anyway?

 

[Spatula]

Italy really mishandled the situation.

 

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Adopting OCD-level Asian cleanliness rituals in response to the virus's spread is cultural appropriation, also racist.

Implying Chinks actually engage in cleanliness, rather than just wearing masks all the time to work around their lack of cleanliness.

Soap? Hot water? Luxuries.

 

[roxitp0w3rwuzdabest420]

Aren't OCD Asian cleanliness rituals appropriated from late 19th early 20th century West by immigrants anyway?

AH yes the ancient chinese secret of using elbow to hit the crosswalk button.

"Man who uses finger to press button dies in lung fluid."-Confucius

 

[Rudy Russo]

Outside China:

29289 confirmed / 703 dead / 3320 recovered

25030 / 487 / 2820 yesterday

Iran:

6566 confirmed / 194 dead / 2134 recovered

5823 / 145 / 1669 yesterday

USA:

547 confirmed / 21 dead / 8 recovered

424 / 17 / 8

 

[2WokeB4BrainPills]

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Coomer vs Coofer, who shall prevail?

The market is going to be real bad tomorrow, if we’re heading into a recession nothing will save Trump now. He might have gotten away with mishandling the virus if things got better by November but the market and it’s masters are unforgiving.

I think there's no way the markets won't be eating shit for at least this year, and that was pretty much locked in even if it had only (somehow) stayed in China.

BUT, I think it's far from certain how things play out politically. Trump has had the 100% right instinct regarding China and our dependence on foreign manufacturing generally (it's a yuge problem), and more people are starting to see that. Meanwhile, he was too focused on the stock market and failed to transition the admin to crisis mode early enough, allowing the CDC to fumble the initial testing (by not breathing enough fire down their necks).

I think the thing that will determine his fate is how the admin pivots to full on war-footing against this thing. If I were Trump I would be meeting with manufacturers and "requesting" them to start rebuilding US medical supply chain as fast as humanly possible, and making sure congress was ready with their rubber stamps and blank checks... and emergency presidential powers including IP nationalization and resource requisition laws (in case 3M somehow gets confused and thinks they can say "no"). We can get this shit done faster than people think, it simply requires force of will. Trump has a lot of will when he takes something seriously, and acute crisis such as this is precisely the purpose of the office of the President. So we'll see.

Also he is running against a Joe "Corn Pop" Biden.

 

[MelloYello]

Meanwhile Nikkei is down over 5%, FTSE futures are down 6.5%, essentially in free fall.

Curiously, the SSE Composite Index isn't budging.

 

[Non-Expert!]

Aren't OCD Asian cleanliness rituals appropriated from late 19th early 20th century West by immigrants anyway?

Hey, um, ever shared a kitchen with a bunch of Chinese?

Not quite "feeling" this alleged OCD cleanliness, from China, anyway.

Here's a funny anecdote ... back in the day where I worked, there were a bunch of food trucks. I was in Philly at the time. I was hungry and I went downstairs.

"Hmmm .... Chinese ... that sounds good."

So I go up to my cubicle, and sit down to enjoy this soupy-kind of stir-fry. It went from tasting like "spring veggie mix" to cigarette. I was seriously like "tobacco-flavored fermented plum-bean sauce" (you know that dark, salty, briny sauce they coat everything with).

The taste of cigarette intensified. I dug my chopsticks in, to pull out a sauce-covered cigarette butt.

I gasped, and ran down to the food truck in question. I told them that a cigarette butt was in my food.

And they had a total attitude about it when I asked for a cigarette-free replacement lunch.

.....

Chinese food pretty much requires a well-seasoned wok. In authentic Chinese food, that is where that deep-braised, ever-so-slightly rank taste comes from. Unless you are Chinese and have a huge wok over a fire at your home, you can not duplicate that flavor.

But no, Chinese are not neat--niks in any sense of the word.

But this does not mean that unleashing a torrent of racist and politically resentful commentary, is going to protect any of us, or our loved ones from the virus.

 

[byuu]

Germany has their priorities in order and protects the real victims of the Corona virus: the economy.

The government agreed on softening regulation on short-time work and pumping some additional billions of euros into the industry.

Coronavirus: Koalition einigt sich auf Hilfen für Wirtschaft

Nach einer rund siebenstündigen Sitzung hat sich die Koalition auf Hilfen für Unternehmen in der Corona-Krise verständigt. So soll etwa die Auszahlung von Kurzarbeitergeld erleichtert werden.

www.tagesschau.de

 

[MrJokerRager]

Panicked gun buyers with little or no history of firearms experience, buying up sidearms and ammo. It's only going to take one paranoid/panicked Chinese firing at a random person approaching them to turn that race-war worry into a reality.

Did one of the roof koreans shoot your papa in the LA Riots or some charlie shot your grandpappy back in Nam for you to be so paranoid.

 

[WeDon'tNeedToWhisper]

I knew pretty much that this was what was happening, of course.

Spoiler: article

(CNN) When first responders reported last week to a hard-hit nursing home in Washington state, the epicenter of the nation's coronavirus outbreak, they found an understaffed facility with inadequate gear attempting to serve dozens of patients vulnerable to catching the virus.

Just three staff members reported to Life Care Center in Kirkland, Washington, between Tuesday night and Wednesday morning to serve about 90 residents, a first responder familiar with the situation told CNN. Still, neither the King County Health Department nor the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention sent personnel Thursday to provide assistance -- though they have since.

First responders were concerned that staff members were not wearing appropriate personal protective equipment to handle the high number of patients with probable coronavirus. They also arrived to the facility to find employees using positive pressure bag valve masks to ventilate potential coronavirus patients -- even though firefighters have been told not to use such masks, as they can disperse more particulate into the air, the responder said.

The children and other relatives of patients in the facility have been attempting to sound the alarm about conditions in the facility for weeks.

A spokeswoman for the city of Kirkland told CNN that "our firefighters are taking direction from King County Emergency Medical Services regarding the personal protective equipment. At this time we have been told to continue providing respiratory support including positive pressure bag valve masks."

CNN has also sought comment from representatives of Life Care Center and the CDC -- both of which so far have not responded. A spokesperson for the Life Care Center said during a news conference Saturday that the CDC has now provided it with extra nurses, practitioners and doctors.

State governments are working to contain the spread of the novel coronavirus in the US, as federal officials say more testing for the illness will likely see the number of known cases increase. As of Saturday night, there were at least 19 deaths in the United States -- at least 14 of them tied to the Life Care Center in Kirkland alone, according to a Seattle and King County Public Health news release.

Two new coronavirus deaths out of 16 total recorded in the state are linked to the facility, according to the release. A man in his 70s, who was a resident at the care home, died on March 2, while a woman in her 80s, who was also a Life Care resident, died on March 5, officials said.

While staff are caring for patients to the best of their ability, "we cannot make any promise that exposure, further exposure, within the facility is not happening," said Tim Killian, a spokesman for Life Care Center of Kirkland.

Some Life Care Center residents have gone from no symptoms to acute symptoms within an hour, Killian said.

"We've had patients die relatively quickly under those circumstances," he said.

Killian told reporters during a Saturday briefing that 70 employees are showing coronavirus symptoms. Those employees have been asked not to return to work.

As of February 19, the facility employed 180 staff members and housed 120 residents. Fifty-four residents have since been transferred to various hospitals, Killian said, and all residents at the facility are confined to their rooms.


On Thursday, the facility received 45 coronavirus tests, the results of which are still pending, he said.

Life Care Center of Kirkland said in a statement later Saturday that they had received additional testing kits from the Washington State Department of Health and are now able to test all remaining residents in their facility. The tests are currently being administered, according to the facility's statement.

While the Trump administration -- through a response effort led by Vice President Mike Pence and a White House task force -- has sought to assure the American public, officials have still not explained why the federal government has been so slow to distribute testing kits in bulk and has dragged its feet on removing restrictions for who can conduct diagnosis.

Health officials briefing the media at the White House Saturday afternoon could not say exactly how many people had been tested related to using the 5,861 tests conducted by the CDC and public health labs across the country. Various factors impact the number of people who can be tested, including the fact that most people receive at least two tests -- swabs for the nose and the throat.

FDA Commissioner Dr. Stephen Hahn said Saturday that 1,583 patients have been tested by the CDC but that the government doesn't know how many patients received tests from the 2,361 specimens collected by state and local labs.

Each day the number of tests is rising, and the numbers are soon expected to dramatically jump, he said.
Federal officials say 2.1 million tests will be shipped out by Monday, with a further goal of 4 million tests to be shipped by the end of next week.

14 deaths out of this one nursing home and just last night they receive enough tests to cover the remaining residents, wow...
But what's worse is that there were only 3 staff members working for 90 residents, and neither the KCHD or the CDC sent help until Thursday, as in 3 days ago. What useless cunts

ETA: 19 now dead in WA state as of 3/8/20 Majority of the dead were Life Care patients
article link

 

[ultimate_racoon]

Hey, um, ever shared a kitchen with a bunch of Chinese?

Not quite "feeling" this alleged OCD cleanliness, from China, anyway.

Here's a funny anecdote ... back in the day where I worked, there were a bunch of food trucks. I was in Philly at the time. I was hungry and I went downstairs.

"Hmmm .... Chinese ... that sounds good."

So I go up to my cubicle, and sit down to enjoy this soupy-kind of stir-fry. It went from tasting like "spring veggie mix" to cigarette. I was seriously like "tobacco-flavored fermented plum-bean sauce" (you know that dark, salty, briny sauce they coat everything with).

The taste of cigarette intensified. I dug my chopsticks in, to pull out a sauce-covered cigarette butt.

I gasped, and ran down to the food truck in question. I told them that a cigarette butt was in my food.

And they had a total attitude about it when I asked for a cigarette-free replacement lunch.

.....

Chinese food pretty much requires a well-seasoned wok. In authentic Chinese food, that is where that deep-braised, ever-so-slightly rank taste comes from. Unless you are Chinese and have a huge wok over a fire at your home, you can not duplicate that flavor.

But no, Chinese are not neat--niks in any sense of the word.

But this does not mean that unleashing a torrent of racist and politically resentful commentary, is going to protect any of us, or our loved ones from the virus.

I used to do industrial work with a lot of Laotians. They always ate "sticky rice", you just grab some with your hands and dip it into soy sauce or whatever. I'd never take any, they never washed their hands after taking a shit. Good guys to work with, though.

 

[Mr. Skeltal]

Here you go hun....

70 people trapped as coronavirus quarantine hotel collapses in China

More than two dozen people pulled from rubble so far

www.independent.co.uk

Although unfortunately I might have to disagree with you about what constitutes a "great power."

Did that building collapse because they couldn't afford to fix it? Did they put it together with backerboard, putty and zip ties because they don't have the resources to build properly? Then yes, China is a third-world shithole and we have nothing to worry about.

Or did that building collapse because nobody gives a shit enough to have proper permits and inspections?

If that is the case, they might be an aggressive wealthy superpower with a poor human rights record.

>China
>superpower

China fails the metric of superpower militarily. It cannot, at present, project force beyond its region in any meaningful manner (I know about their nukes and space program, but I'm talking about warfare, not war crimes).
Is China an economic behemoth? Certainly.
Can China bully other nations and NGOs into compliance?
Definitely.
But these things merely make a regional or great power. A superpower is able to enforce its will around the world through treaty and might. China can do the former, not the latter. The US, especially with the US Navy's freedom of navigation mission, fulfills both requirements.

Conversely PLA tried to invade Vietnam and, while temporarily successful, failed in their mission to hold strategic territory in Vietnam as retaliation for the Vietnamese occupation of Cambodia. The PLA had no worries of political restrictions like the US military did during the Vietnam War, Second Gulf War, and Afghanistan. Instead they got chewed by the VC, hastily declared a bullshit victory of saying "Hanoi is now vulnerable, CHINA NUMBAH ONE", and fucked off back to China.

For reference, this was the most recent foreign war that China and the PLA has prosecuted. This war was three weeks of 1979. While China has become more of a threat recently, if this war is the foundation of their doctrine then they are very behind other regional and great powers, let alone superpowers like the USA or USSR (historically).

 

[dopy]

Curiously, the SSE Composite Index isn't budging.

the chinese government has been pumping money into everything to keep the boat afloat.
how do you explain solid market gains after a 10% drop and essentially shutting the entire country down?

Spoiler: charts

the SSE dropping on 23 Jan after the "oh shit" moment of shutting down wuhan/hubei:

here's the S&P 500 for comparison from 4 Feb, when the SSE/shanghai composites begin to rise again:

and the DAX:

and the answer is: a giant boat made out of money

 

[Meat Poultry Veg]

Hmm, so the coronavirus is a 2A advocate.

Fearful of a Coronavirus Backlash, Some Asian Americans Are Stocking Up on Guns

Outbreaks in Washington and California have motivated first-time gun buyers — many of them Asian Americans worried about racist attacks stemming from fears about the virus.

www.thetrace.org

Fearful of a Coronavirus Backlash, Some Asian-Americans Are Stocking …

archived 7 Mar 2020 23:35:08 UTC

archive.vn

As the number of confirmed COVID-19 cases continues to multiply, many Americans are emptying store shelves of hand sanitizer, bleach, and canned goods. But there’s an acute fear among Asian-Americans that the virus’s origins in China will spark a violent xenophobic backlash. Along the West Coast, where the worst outbreaks of coronavirus in the United States have occurred, those fears seem to be spurring a surge in gun sales.

“People are panicking because they don’t feel secure,” said David Liu, who is Chinese-American and owns Arcadia Firearm and Safety, just east of Los Angeles. “They worry about a riot or maybe that people will start to target the Chinese.”

Liu said his store had seen a fivefold increase in sales over the past two weeks. He’s sold out of Glock handguns, and some customers have asked to buy his entire inventory of ammunition branded for home defense. “They think it’s Costco,” he said.

According to Liu, his customers are overwhelmingly of Chinese descent. They worry, he explained, that in the event of mass panic, they might face violence because of their ethnicity, and be easy victims because of historically low rates of gun ownership. Surveys of gun ownership don’t usually track Asian-Americans separately, but instead include them in an “other” category that is typically very small.

As The Los Angeles Times has reported, since the first novel coronavirus outbreaks in the United States, Asian-Americans have experienced intensifying venom, including bullying, racist comments, and harassment. And, on February 24, a man of East Asian descent was assaulted in central London. One of the assailants reportedly said, “I don’t want your coronavirus in my country.”

“The main thing I’m hearing is that they don’t want to get jumped because of their race,” said Cole Gaughran, the internet sales manager at Wade’s Eastside Guns in Bellevue, Washington. Gaughran said his store has seen a sixfold increase in sales in the same two weeks. His new customers, most of them first-time gun owners, were almost entirely of Asian descent, he said. Bellevue is just a 15 minute drive from Kirkland, where 11 people have died from the virus.

There’s no way to get an accurate accounting for how many people buy guns on a weekly basis, or in real time. However, in Washington, local police departments do process background checks for most first-time gun buyers. In Bellevue, police say they’ve registered the spike in demand. Meeghan Black, the Police Department’s public information officer, said that since August of last year, the department has processed a steady average of around 158 checks per month. But in the first four days of March, they handled more than a hundred.

“The officer who processes these checks said he’s been processing the last ten years, and has never seen anything like this in his life,” she added.

In nearby Lynnwood, Washington, the local police department saw no such increase in firearm sales. But at least one local gun shop did.

Tiffany Teasdale, the co-owner of Lynnwood Gun and Ammunition, said she, too, has seen a sixfold increase in sales over the past two weeks, predominantly from Chinese-American customers. “We’ve had a line of customers before opening Thursday through Sunday, and customers in the store until 10 to 15 minutes after closing.” she said. “We used to sell from 10 to 15 firearms in a weekend. [We sold] 60 firearms just [last] Saturday.”

Teasdale said that nearby stores had seen increases as well, and her distributors had run out of 9mm ammunition. “It’s been happening for the last four or five days,” Teasdale said.” A lot of our distributors nationally are saying that all of their warehouses are empty. None of them know why.”

So far, police departments and civil rights groups in cities experiencing increased gun sales have received no reports of violent attacks against Asians, they say. The Bellevue Police Department said it hadn’t received a single complaint since the first U.S. case of coronavirus made headlines.

Robin Engle, a spokesperson for OneAmerica — a Seattle-based nonprofit focused on immigrant rights — said that while the organization was aware of people avoiding Asian restaurants, it had not heard about any hate crimes in the Seattle area.

When told about the reports from gun-store owners, she said, “It is alarming that people are afraid that that can happen to the point that they’re going out and buying guns.”

An object lesson in that when the world is in danger of turning into shit, the first thing to go is political correctness--on BOTH sides of the aisle.

 

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Beijing returning to normal under Chinese authoritarian socialist Han government.

Amy Qin on Twitter

“Sanlitun in Beijing yesterday. It’d been a ghost mall for weeks, but now slowly stirring back to life. For days, the typically 2 hr wait for a hipster bubble tea shop had been reduced to 5min- now back up to 40. Yes that’s from firsthand reporting 🙈the taro boba is 👌 https://t.co/npnH79tgqe”

twitter.com

I wonder why the Falun Gong fake China reporters aren't covering this?