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I'm just scared doctors will be treated like they were before the pandemic or even worse after it recedes.

"How dare you ask for more money or not to be treated like garbage? We beat the epidemic without complainers like you!"
 
mr.moon1488 said:
What blows my mind about all of this is how Corona chan seems to be able to still slip past despite such extreme measures.
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Well they have yet to take the most basic measures so it's no wonder its not working. It's like having a patient with pneumonia and cutting his leg off. Sure, it's extreme, but it won't fix the god damned pneumonia.

mr.moon1488 said:
It has a lot of doomsday tier characteristics. Mutates easily, contagious without symptoms, multiple infection vectors, very slow killing, apparently hard to test for, and the potential for reinfection. The big thing I don't think people have fully come to grips with yet is that even with the obviously understated death rate, you have to realize that the people who are recovering are mostly doing so in full ICU care, and with artificial ventilation. If doctors keep getting sick, or even if they just get overwhelmed by sheer numbers of patients then you'll eventually see that number skyrocket because it will be impossible to treat everyone.
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To be fair the flu also has all those characteristics. Jokes aside. Most patients don't need ICU. They're technically there because of quarantine but most infectees outside of china recovered through bed and food. What people don't take into account is that's also how most BLACK DEATH survivors recovered, so you know, not very reassuring.

mr.moon1488 said:
Well, the strain in Iran has already been announced to have been a different strain. They're claiming it didn't originate from China, but I'd say that should be taken with a massive grain of salt. As for it reinfecting, it's very much possible. If during a mutation a virus's protein coat (capsid) changes, then in most instances it will bypass any immunity developed for a different strain of the virus.
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I'd take anything the Iranis say with massive grains of salt. The chinese own half the god damned country they're not gonna go after them.

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Ten new cases of coronavirus in Iran, one dead
(Reuters) - Ten new cases of coronavirus have been detected in Iran, one of whom has died, Health Ministry spokesman Kianush Jahanpur said on state TV on Saturday.

The new numbers announced by the health ministry bring the total number of cases of the new coronavirus in the country to 28, with five of the total having died.
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Rapid Surge in Iran Coronavirus Cases Is ‘Very Worrisome’: WHO
A surge in coronavirus cases and deaths in Iran is raising concern because the outbreak can’t be traced directly back to China, the head of the World Health Organization said.

The cases, which suggest rapid spread in a country outside of the epidemic’s center in China, are “very worrisome,” WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus told reporters Friday at a press briefing in Geneva. The window of opportunity to stop the spread in countries outside the place where it began is “really narrowing,” he said. “This outbreak could go in any direction.”

In Iran, there have been 18 cases* (28 cases now) and four deaths* (five deaths now) in just the past two days, Tedros said. One case was also reported Friday in Lebanon that was directly linked to Iran. Health experts are racing to limit new cases outside China, where severe quarantine measures are in place.

Tedros said the WHO is getting information from Iranian authorities, “but we have to engage them even more.”

“The concern is that we’re seeing a very rapid increase in a matter of days,” said Sylvie Briand, director of global infectious hazard preparedness at the WHO.
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When "growth" is that high and close to linear yet again it's not real spread you're measuring, the limiting factor is how many are being tested. Iran probably has a lot more infected than they know.

PicsNGifs said:
So, I'm pretty sure I've caught the coronavirus, and I don't have any anti HIV medicine on me, unlimited (for one person) food, and not much health insurance.
This is the worst "flu" I've ever had and my symptoms seems to not be improving, or getting worse.
Any tips for surviving until I see the doctor Wednesday, serious or sarcastic, because I think we should all have a little fun during a tragedy
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If you notice pneumonia symptoms go to urgent care asap, if not, have fun, relax, take some frenadol or spidifren depending on symptoms, and I dunno just stay healthy physically and mentaly.
 
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EmuWarsVeteran said:
If you notice pneumonia symptoms go to urgent care asap, if not, have fun, relax, take some frenadol or spidifren depending on symptoms, and I dunno just stay healthy physically and mentaly.
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Well, telling the guy the symptoms of viral pneumonia would be helpful.

If you're short of breath, go to the emergency department. In general what this is going to feel like is that you can't move enough air into your lungs, you breathe faster in response to that and then you'll start feeling very tired. You may or may not have chest pain. Or a productive cough or dry cough or no cough at all. The breathing part is what's important.

It's most likely the flu but I have seen people go from fine to ECMO in the span of a single shift because of the flu. If you are breathing fine and you can keep liquids down then don't worry, your body is doing all it can to fight off your infection and you're just gonna feel like shit for a while until it clears.

Well until your blood turns black and a chestburster pops out.
 
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“Italy has reported 33 new cases and 1 new death so far today, raising the country's total to 54 cases and 2 deaths https://t.co/eUoE2b20hL”
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33 new cases in the last hours, this is insane.
 
mr.moon1488 said:
It has a lot of doomsday tier characteristics. Mutates easily, contagious without symptoms, multiple infection vectors, very slow killing, apparently hard to test for, and the potential for reinfection. The big thing I don't think people have fully come to grips with yet is that even with the obviously understated death rate, you have to realize that the people who are recovering are mostly doing so in full ICU care, and with artificial ventilation. If doctors keep getting sick, or even if they just get overwhelmed by sheer numbers of patients then you'll eventually see that number skyrocket because it will be impossible to treat everyone.
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No. I'm pretty sure that's not the case. Otherwise the death rates would be massively skyrocketing because China does not have the resources to put the amount of recovered onto that kind of care. Even if China's number are fake the 20,000 or so who're recovered were not all admitted to ICU on artificial ventilation, got better, and released. They just don't have the medical facilities for that.

The symptoms aren't specific is a big part of the issue and the difference between severity of cases is another large part. Certain people are affected much more harshly and others have it and just have regular flu/cold symptoms. That's where the problem with it comes in. It's cold and flu season for a lot of countries right now so the reason it's able to spread and make pockets is because some people have it, aren't extremely sick, and thus are just going about their day as usual with a 'common cold' like symptoms when in reality they have corona and thus spread it. This is very likely the reason Italy and Iran have pockets because some dumbass had only minor symptoms, visited those countries, spread it around and now the incubation period is up. So we're seeing a bunch of cases. There's probably some pockets in the world where this has already gone around but mildly and the only reason it suddenly gets scrutinized is when several deaths occur which flags the medical establishment then they test everyone and *bam* we've got outbreak numbers because the focus is there.

Tho. At this point how easy it is to transfer I'm starting to think people literally breathe it out. It seems crazy as to how quickly it is able to spread between a group of people.
 
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I lost the quote, but at the idea that the virus has mutated and all that, let me give you a reminder that only one result of investigation isn't enough to make a conclussion. You need replication to finally have a confirmed outcome. A lot of people (I'm looking at you, Jim) are sharing info about things that are now only theories, and because different countries are making their own investigations alone, we're gonna have a lot of different conclusions because the test subjects are all different. It was the same with the AIDS-type rumor. It was only what once lab apparently found out.

And people need to be careful with this because we already entered the worst stage: hysteria. And hysterical people are very dangerous.

AltisticRight said:
Here's the complete list of animals, somewhat chronological:
- Bats
- Snakes
- Pangolins/Armadillos
- Dogs
- Salamanders
- Thot who's the head of Wuhan's virus lab
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You forgot

- Kathy Zhu.
 
I’m pretty sure this is beyond control at this point. All countries had to do was ban all flights to and from China and it would have contained the virus. Now we’re seeing reports in Iran and Italy and the numbers are increasing.

They should cancel the Olympics or postpone them.
 
PicsNGifs said:
So, I'm pretty sure I've caught the coronavirus, and I don't have any anti HIV medicine on me, unlimited (for one person) food, and not much health insurance.
This is the worst "flu" I've ever had and my symptoms seems to not be improving, or getting worse.
Any tips for surviving until I see the doctor Wednesday, serious or sarcastic, because I think we should all have a little fun during a tragedy
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Idk if this is actually good for a cold like this but I'd suggest pseudoephedrine or mucinex. It helps decongest me beautifully. If you're not sure, call your pharmacy or a local one and ask the pharmacist. Tell em your symptoms and go from there.
 
Tasty Tatty said:
I lost the quote, but at the idea that the virus has mutated and all that, let me give you a reminder that only one result of investigation isn't enough to make a conclussion. You need replication to finally have a confirmed outcome. A lot of people (I'm looking at you, Jim) are sharing info about things that are now only theories, and because different countries are making their own investigations alone, we're gonna have a lot of different conclusions because the test subjects are all different. It was the same with the AIDS-type rumor. It was only what once lab apparently found out.

And people need to be careful with this because we already entered the worst stage: hysteria. And hysterical people are very dangerous.



You forgot

- Kathy Zhu.
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Well yes, Jim and Tim Pool and perhaps Mr. Obvious are all flinging information from 4chan and other places and it can behave in a viral way in and of itself. They aggravate the whim of hysteria and for me and others that's not very healthy. Styx is pretty measured and also that British health consultant guy, so I am not terribly worried. However, the blackpilled information like the possible higher death rate, 2nd infection, strains, transmission ease, and quarantining almost a billion people just speak to me in a way that nothing else has really managed to do. I get rattled sometimes, but I try to bring it down with thinking more realistically. I mean, there's got to be a silver lining somewhere right? If I wash my hands and just use common sense, I'm just not sure how likely someone in the 1st world like me is to get the virus. I really need the information to make myself less blackpilled sometimes though, and while it's good to listen to all sources, it's definitely not good to pay a lot of attention to random things that are hysterical and unconfirmed.

And also, I think Trump said it will be a non issue come April? Not sure if he's boomering it up or if he knows the situation will be handled more appropriately than we think.
 
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Talk about smoking gun...

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“Chinese President Xi expresses gratitude to Bill and Melinda Gates for support to his country after the coronavirus outbreak https://t.co/btYheMKy5T”
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*Conspiracies Intensify and reaches a new level*

Do we still all remember the Bill and Melinda Gates "sponsored" event 201 virus outbreak simulation a few months ago before this shit went out..
 
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PicsNGifs said:
So, I'm pretty sure I've caught the coronavirus, and I don't have any anti HIV medicine on me, unlimited (for one person) food, and not much health insurance.
This is the worst "flu" I've ever had and my symptoms seems to not be improving, or getting worse.
Any tips for surviving until I see the doctor Wednesday, serious or sarcastic, because I think we should all have a little fun during a tragedy
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OK, why do you think you have corona? Have you been in contact with people from Mainland China with the disease? Other known contacts? There is ordinary flu going around as in every year and this year's is also pretty nasty.

Why would you need HIV medicine? I'm confused. Are you actually HIV+? Corona hsn't anything in common with HIV, whatever unscientific nonsense some people have been putting around. Are you saying you're out of HIV meds you usually take? In that case, you need to call someone who can get your prescription in.

Take usual care of yourself as you would with any flu -stay warm, take plenty of liquids, treat symptoms with OTC meds like paracetmol, cough medicine, and call whatever health authority you have for advice. No idea where you are or how things work where you are, but they may want to test you and not have you roll into a doctor's office and infect whoever is around that day. If you truly have reason to believe it's corona and not generic seasonal flu (which is actually no joke) you shouldn't be going out into crowded places. Call someone and check what the procedure is. In the UK we have to call 111 (NHS helpline) and we will be directed to specially set-up 'corona pods' at local hospitals. Nobody wants any just rolling into a GP's office or general ER and infecting whole waiting rooms and staff.
 
Jeffrey Epstein said:
Well yes, Jim and Tim Pool and perhaps Mr. Obvious are all flinging information from 4chan and other places and it can behave in a viral way in and of itself. They aggravate the whim of hysteria and for me and others that's not very healthy. Styx is pretty measured and also that British health consultant guy, so I am not terribly worried. However, the blackpilled information like the possible higher death rate, 2nd infection, strains, transmission ease, and quarantining almost a billion people just speak to me in a way that nothing else has really managed to do. I get rattled sometimes, but I try to bring it down with thinking more realistically. I mean, there's got to be a silver lining somewhere right? If I wash my hands and just use common sense, I'm just not sure how likely someone in the 1st world like me is to get the virus. I really need the information to make myself less blackpilled sometimes though, and while it's good to listen to all sources, it's definitely not good to pay a lot of attention to random things that are hysterical and unconfirmed.

And also, I think Trump said it will be a non issue come April? Not sure if he's boomering it up or if he knows the situation will be handled more appropriately than we think.
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I would suggest those feeling overly scared/hysterical step back from the computer for a bit, for starters. Can you catch this virus? Yes. Is there a chance of dying from it? Small. Best things to do is to wash hands, cover sneezes, try to avoid public places if cases have been found. The best weapon against hysteria is common sense.

Would also reiterate that if the CCP had handled this better conditions in China wouldn't be near as difficult as they are. CCP knew of this beforehand. Apparently made no preparations. Then when doctors raised a concern they were arrested; one's dead. If you notice, look outside China and countries are moving to address and combat this virus. Nobody's been arrested for voicing concerns.

We, as a world, will get through this. Always have, always will. There will be economic changes in the wake of this, without a doubt. Have to be. World has been given a graphic lesson in the folly of putting too many industrial eggs in one basket. Possibility of political changes in China. As things stand, the Xi regime demonstrates on a daily basis that China is no great power. A great power has great medical systems, great water systems, doesn't shoot the messenger, doesn't build death houses for the sick, and sure as hell doesn't weld people's doors and gates shut. China's Chernobyl.

So step back, take a deep breath, get some fresh air, take care of yourself, and pray for those suffering in China.
 
Jeffrey Epstein said:
I mean, there's got to be a silver lining somewhere right?
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If the rumors are true that it's mutating, we could potentially strike a lucky break and get an asymptomatic weak-ass strain that kills nobody and inoculates you to the real deal like with the previous Ebola outbreak. Otherwise we're just gonna have to try our best to dodge kung flu until a vaccine is invented and hope it doesn't just infect you with a full blown virus by accident because it was a rush job.
 
Borax Bozo said:
Man I just realised - Retaisai and COMITIA are going to be deathtraps this year, aren't they?
If it's still around by Comiket time Japan won't have an otaku population anymore next year. :stress:
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As long as Corona-Chan only targets the otaku and none of the mangaka it would be a net win.
 
Jeffrey Epstein said:
Well yes, Jim and Tim Pool and perhaps Mr. Obvious are all flinging information from 4chan and other places and it can behave in a viral way in and of itself. They aggravate the whim of hysteria and for me and others that's not very healthy. Styx is pretty measured and also that British health consultant guy, so I am not terribly worried. However, the blackpilled information like the possible higher death rate, 2nd infection, strains, transmission ease, and quarantining almost a billion people just speak to me in a way that nothing else has really managed to do. I get rattled sometimes, but I try to bring it down with thinking more realistically. I mean, there's got to be a silver lining somewhere right? If I wash my hands and just use common sense, I'm just not sure how likely someone in the 1st world like me is to get the virus. I really need the information to make myself less blackpilled sometimes though, and while it's good to listen to all sources, it's definitely not good to pay a lot of attention to random things that are hysterical and unconfirmed.
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JosephStalin said:
I would suggest those feeling overly scared/hysterical step back from the computer for a bit, for starters. Can you catch this virus? Yes. Is there a chance of dying from it? Small. Best things to do is to wash hands, cover sneezes, try to avoid public places if cases have been found. The best weapon against hysteria is common sense.

Would also reiterate that if the CCP had handled this better conditions in China wouldn't be near as difficult as they are. CCP knew of this beforehand. Apparently made no preparations. Then when doctors raised a concern they were arrested; one's dead. If you notice, look outside China and countries are moving to address and combat this virus. Nobody's been arrested for voicing concerns.

We, as a world, will get through this. Always have, always will. There will be economic changes in the wake of this, without a doubt. Have to be. World has been given a graphic lesson in the folly of putting too many industrial eggs in one basket. Possibility of political changes in China. As things stand, the Xi regime demonstrates on a daily basis that China is no great power. A great power has great medical systems, great water systems, doesn't shoot the messenger, doesn't build death houses for the sick, and sure as hell doesn't weld people's doors and gates shut. China's Chernobyl.

So step back, take a deep breath, get some fresh air, take care of yourself, and pray for those suffering in China.
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MarvinTheParanoidAndroid said:
If the rumors are true that it's mutating, we could potentially strike a lucky break and get an asymptomatic weak-ass strain that kills nobody and inoculates you to the real deal like with the previous Ebola outbreak. Otherwise we're just gonna have to try our best to dodge kung flu until a vaccine is invented and hope it doesn't just infect you with a full blown virus by accident because it was a rush job.
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Thank you for putting things into perspective for myself and others. What should I make of Iranians reporting that conditions for patients deteriorate extremely rapidly though, or some of the more bleak news we've gotten?
 
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