Saw a couple of interesting posts on GameFAQs. Thought I'd post them here since the board it's on doesn't archive posts.
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CrimsonStrider
2 days ago
#211
We've been in a semi lockdown for about 3 weeks now, but as if Monday they've stepped it up. Each family must register with their building's management for a pass that let's one person from each household out to buy food once every 2 days. Supposedly for 2 hours but I imagine my building will be lax with that.
Almost everything is shutdown. Supermarket, KFC, some other food services, pharmacies, hospitals are open.
You need to show your Chinese ID when entering the supermarket. I tried on Monday but they wouldn't let me in, since as an expat we don't have ID. I asked if my passport was ok and they said yes at first, then no when I said I was American. Heh. I made a stink about that and told them to sort it out with the local Gov't. I'll go tomorrow.
People aren't panicking here but they're on edge. People angrily arguing with the dude handling passes.
Apparently they've quarantined areas, so I can't go to downtown Xi'an and my coworkers can't come visit me etc.
I live with a good view of the main street and have seen emergency vehicles go by dozens of times these past weeks. One hint that numbers aren't accurate, because my district is far from downtown and small.
Things to consider regarding China that I've seen confirmed many times.
When someone is sick with preexisting conditions and they die, from a flu for instance, their cause of death is written as the pre existing condition. That's why China technically has a low flu mortality rate. It's also a loophole regarding the current virus.
There's also the thought that provincial governments are worried about backlash and aren't properly reporting deaths.
I've seen leaked videos of medical workers making these comments.
Wuhan only gets 2000 test kits a day. So they cannot confirm more than 2k a day. This number may have changed by now. But other countries have mentioned producing test kits isn't easy.
They've mentioned small hospitals often have 1 to 2 deaths a day. Some hospitals have turned their ER room into a temporary morgue because the crematoriums are at full capacity.
Originally one crematorium was handling all the bodies and were told to go from 4h a day to 24. Estimates at 220 bodies a day. I've heard that now there are at least four running 24h, but this morning I heard people mention there are 49 crematoriums working overtime atm.
The hospital they built is actually basically a triage. People are getting cross infected there, no hot water, toilets outside, no medicine. Basically a giant quarantine ward.
Some of the wards have no medicine and family members must provide medication but cannot enter facilities. Nobody is allowed to leave facilities.
There are people, out of fear, barricading suspected infected individuals into their home. Neighbors send food by lowering things from windows.
At least one child died because the family was quarantined.
I saw a video of a woman falling out of a window. Not sure why.
Videos of people beating people from Wuhan, or infected people, or people without masks bloody.
People are praising China, but the truth is, they're panicking. They can only do this much because they don't care about human rights. That's good and bad. Maybe this outbreak is so bad that this is the only way to deal with it. But they shouldn't be praised for it.
They're taking every jab they can at the US.
They've put bounties on people from Wuhan.
Some local governments are encouraging people in postal service to seize medical supplies (masks). I've heard others have lost their package. We'll see if my masks make it.
They've known of this virus since early Dec.
They're hiding so much info from the public.
The fucking videos and propaganda piss me off. Videos of people in quarantine wards dancing and doing kung fu. One comment I read was “Looking at this makes me wish I was quarantined too” (their comment section is moderated and also propaganda)
Meanwhile lots of heartbreaking leaked videos that are abundant on YouTube but never see the light of day here.
My friend's grandma had a stroke and died alone in the hospital because everyone was worried about becoming infected.
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CrimsonStrider
2 days ago
#213
With all that said, there's also this to consider.
While the death toll is undeniably higher, some conservative estimates saying 20 to 30k based on crematorium math, that also means total infected case is probably much higher. It also means it's very likely a vast majority of people have a mild case that doesn't require hospitalization.
Current estimates are that 15 percent or so require ICU and of that 15 percent maybe 6 percent are fatal cases (I keep seeing that number change). High risk group seems to be older individuals, smokers, and people with high blood pressure. Being male might also he a risk factor.
People are worried about a potentially long incubation period, up to 24days. We'll see what they say about that over the next few days.
Aerosolized infection is a concern and is likely.
They're trying to figure out how someone 10
floors below an infected individuals became infected. Worried about it traveling via pipes.
@ssjevot
My family wants me to, but I wanna see what happens. I'm pretty zhai, heh. I brought my power rack from the gym to my apartment on my grocery day and I bought some nice inline skates right before the lockdown. So I skate in the parking lot, workout, cook, or play games. Really my life hasn't changed much.
I have pets. I also want to be here in case anyone I care about needs help. I wish I could help in general. I think at the bare minimum if the situation degrades here I can be a citizen journalist of sorts.
From watching all the Wuhan videos... I keep thinking this must be what the beginning of the cultural revolution felt like.
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ssjevot
2 days ago
#214
I was in Wuhan until last week. It's not nearly as bad as people seem to want it to be. It's just very boring. It's nothing like the cultural revolution. Shit people were eating other people for nothing but political reasons at that time (as in not due to famine, even when food wasn't scarce they did it in some places).
