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Okay lets say you are right ( even though you aren't arguing in good faith and ignoring other points people have brought up) these are in fact premade office containers. As someone who has worked in these containers can tell you there is no way that any sort of health standard can be maintained in them. They are meant to be satellite buildings so more often than not they weren't built with plumbing in mind. My local college has several of these and they don't even use them during the winter. Your second argument has been "at least they are trying" but that has been addressed (and ignored by you) the military should have the capability of creating emergency facilities. As outsiders we have seen very little assistance from the military but what we have seen is a very understaffed and under supplied health network. Slapping together a bunch of prefab "offices" doesn't change the fact this is a hot mess.
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I expect many if these construction workers are part of the army.

In Chinese history, there is a precedent for mobilizing your army for more than just battle. The Great Wall itself was built by the army. Farmers went to being soldiers, then to construction workers, back to soldiers, and then back to farming the land nearby the wall construction sites.

Their army functions as a sort of fix-all band aid that can conform to what the government needs. The PLA isnt like a traditional western army, it is a system that allows you to be drafted into any mass project the CCP needs.
 
SparklyFetuses said:
Brazil is going to declare state of emergency, besides having 14 suspected cases that are under investigation now. https://theleaders-online.com/coronavirus-brazil-to-declare-health-emergency/

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For the ones lazy to read: Brazil didn't plan on bringing their people back from Wuhan, until a few of them made a video begging Bolsonaro to rescue them, so he agreed. That's why he's calling the Emergency in the country, to isolate them. Add that to the suspected cases they already have (13 have been cleared and abotu 16 more are being evaluated right now) and a few hospitals already overpopulated with Venezuelan refugees. And of course, they have a big chunk of vulnerable population in the Amazon areas. They are in big danger if nCoV gets there.

I tried to find more info, their Ministry of Health said that nCoV isn't spreading as fast as they could expect. I dunno what he meant by that.

So far, in South America:

No cases reported: Argentina, Bolivia, Chile, Uruguay, Venezuela, Suriname, Guyana.
Suspected but cleared: Colombia, Peru
Suspected still evaluating: Brazil (somes were also ruled out), Ecuador, Paraguay

More info:

Mexico: They've strenghetened their protocols for prevention of infections diseases and they are constantly monitoring this new strain of CV. Not yet alert.

Colombia: No info of alert yet. Colombian goverment will move residents in Wuhan to a different Chinese province so they can monitor their people for two weeks with help of Chinese governments. They will provide tickets for Colombia if required.

Bolivia: "we are getting ready for the worst, but expecting the best". An Emergency Operative has been created and they will be the only ones giving away new information.

Costa Rica: Cooperating with WHO. All protocols activated.

Argentina: Recommended citizens to avoid travelling to China or Asia.

Venezuela: Doctors are worried due to obvious vulnerability. Experts warn once it enters the country, it will be impossible to stop it. More security will be added to control of new arrivals to the airport of Caracas.
 
This is posted by Doctor Li Shaolei. It's a conversation he has with his college classmates who work in Wuhan

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This is posted by Doctor Li Shaolei. It's a conversation he has with his college classmates who work in Wuhan. Twitter @coronavirus_arc for more translated news
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Some interesting stuff.

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I doubt it will hit India as hard as China. While pollution is just as bad if not worse, Indians literally bathe in a river of shit. Their immune systems are on another level.
 
JosephStalin said:
Your point about drainage in case of rain is very well put. Have this bad feeling that these "hospitals" are going to be no more than death houses after the first big rain hits and the water just stands. This is on top of the ongoing concerns about equipment/supplies/staff for these "hospitals". Makes no difference how fast you build something if it turns out to be of much less use than expected, sort of like one big canal in Russia dug by GULAG prisoners. The need to finish quickly was so great that the canal wasn't deep enough to accommodate naval vessels as planned.

The CCP has taken a potentially fatal hit to its' credibility over this virus outbreak. Nobody in their right mind can believe any CCP figures and very little of their "news". Every country likes to portray themselves in the best light possible. The CCP is doing this at the expense of their credibility. Not just that, they are being made fools of in near real time, with all the videos going out.

Things in China now remind me of the "Wizard of Oz", where the curtain is pulled back, and there is Xi, just flailing away.

Again, great job. Believe this is the best place on the Internet to get the latest info and analysis on the coronavirus outbreak. I spend time on two other boards and neither thread has more than 20 pages. Not only that, but one board says any discussion of a possible engineered virus from a biological warfare facility is "conspiracy theory", and those who bring it up are kicked from the board. It isn't "conspiracy theory" if it's true, and it could well be. Makes more sense than getting it from eating bats.
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They'd be way better off just taking over a few hotels and retrofitting some kind of negative airflow system to them.
 
www.washingtonexaminer.com

Blocking the coronavirus: Hong Kong medical workers go on strike to demand closure of border with China

Hong Kong medical workers launched a strike to pressure their government into closing the border with mainland China in a dramatic bid to slow the outbreak of the coronavirus.
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Hong Kong medical workers launched a strike to pressure their government into closing the border with mainland China in a dramatic bid to slow the outbreak of the coronavirus.

“Closing the border entirely is the only effective way to prevent the spread of the virus,” Dr. Ho Pak-leung, a microbiologist at the University of Hong Kong, said during a Monday radio interview.

That medical analysis reinforced the demands of 2,700 hospital workers who began a strike on Monday, just as mainland authorities accused the United States of trying to sow “panic” about the virus to hurt China. Local officials gradually closed most crossings while resisting closing the border entirely, which would be difficult to enact after months of Hong Kong protests against Beijing’s authority over the former British colony.

“We have successfully forced the government to move forward,” said Winnie Yu Wai-ming, a senior member of Hong Kong’s Hospital Authority Employees Alliance. “But that is not enough. There are still three crossings and many mainlanders can continue coming to Hong Kong through there.”

The semi-autonomous city’s local medical union announced that 300 of the strikers are doctors and another 900 are nurses. Those figures are expected to balloon on Tuesday, as the employees alliance expects 9,000 union members to participate in the strike, if Hong Kong Chief Executive Carrie Lam continues to allow entry to Hong Kong from the mainland.

Lam maintained that the latest wave of border crossing closures were “completely irrelevant to the strike,” arguing that Hong Kong officials should not discriminate against people on the mainland.

“When it comes to infection control, when it comes to a virus, there is no boundary, so you cannot differentiate that people of a certain race, of a certain nationality ... are more prone to infection than other people. We have to treat them equally,” Lam said on Monday.

The strike is doubly sensitive for the Chinese government due to the political controversy over Hong Kong and because it undercuts Beijing’s complaints about the U.S. warning against traveling to China during the outbreak.

“The U.S. government hasn't provided any substantive assistance to us, but it was the first to evacuate personnel from its consulate in Wuhan, the first to suggest partial withdrawal of its embassy staff, and the first to impose a travel ban on Chinese travelers,” Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying told reporters on Monday. “What it has done could only create and spread fear, which is a very bad example.”

And yet, Hong Kong’s top medical professionals implicitly echoed U.S. warnings about travel in China.

“Unless that person has a very good reason and must absolutely return to Hong Kong, then they need to be quarantined,” Ho, the Hong Kong doctor, added.
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TL;DR: Hong Kong medical workers are on strike because they want to close their borders to China until this whole thing passes over.
 
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Ad Lib Moaning said:
Information is slowing down. I'm conflicted on how to feel about that.
How's the situation looking so far?
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Mixed? China is still looking pretty fucked, but it doesn't seem to be taking much of a foothold anywhere else (at least now).

Can't tell if this is the eye of the hurricane or signs for cautious optimism.
 
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I doubt it will hit India as hard as China. While pollution is just as bad if not worse, Indians literally bathe in a river of shit. Their immune systems are on another level.
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I don't know about that one, air pollution in India is just about as bad as it gets worldwide. A nation with weak lungs and generally poor health practices+enormous population density is ground zero for this spiraling out of control.
A 2013 study on non-smokers has found that have 30% weaker lung function than Europeans
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Air pollution in India - Wikipedia

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Remember, if you find this objectionable, you're RACIST, shouts the Pollution Goblin Chinks and their Useful idiot Commies in the West.

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Terrified dog yelps as it is barbecued ALIVE in vile Chinese street market in shocking clip released by campaigners

SICK videos of dogs being burned alive in China’s cruel and dirty meat markets have been released by animal rights activists. In one piece of footage, which The Sun Online has decided is too …
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These fuckers deserve an epidemic.
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Hitler liked dogs. Do you want to be like Hitler? Stay woke and cook dogs alive.
 
From what I've been hearing from learned people is that it isn't any worse than Sars or mers, let alone swine flu.
The problem is that it is just picking off the low hanging fruit - and china has a shit ton of them because of their living conditions.

Basically Chinese are exceptionally susceptible to respiratory conditions because they breathe contaminated air and don't wash their fucking hands.

China will continue to get new cases but you'll likely be fine if you live in a developed country. (I've still stocked up).

Powerlevel: on a trip to China the food gave me the runs. I managed to find a cafe to do my business and used up all my prepared tissues so swiped a few of theirs when leaving (the bathroom hand none). I needed to go again at my next destination - a popular festival. There of course was no toilet paper amongst all the toilets. Thankfully I had my cafe napkins.... and my winter thermal undershirt. There was no soap, either.
Lesson learnt: take three times as much tissue as you expect to need and 500mls of sanitizer. x10 if you take a long distance train.
 
JosephStalin said:
Your point about drainage in case of rain is very well put. Have this bad feeling that these "hospitals" are going to be no more than death houses after the first big rain hits and the water just stands. This is on top of the ongoing concerns about equipment/supplies/staff for these "hospitals". Makes no difference how fast you build something if it turns out to be of much less use than expected, sort of like one big canal in Russia dug by GULAG prisoners. The need to finish quickly was so great that the canal wasn't deep enough to accommodate naval vessels as planned.

The CCP has taken a potentially fatal hit to its' credibility over this virus outbreak. Nobody in their right mind can believe any CCP figures and very little of their "news". Every country likes to portray themselves in the best light possible. The CCP is doing this at the expense of their credibility. Not just that, they are being made fools of in near real time, with all the videos going out.

Things in China now remind me of the "Wizard of Oz", where the curtain is pulled back, and there is Xi, just flailing away.

Again, great job. Believe this is the best place on the Internet to get the latest info and analysis on the coronavirus outbreak. I spend time on two other boards and neither thread has more than 20 pages. Not only that, but one board says any discussion of a possible engineered virus from a biological warfare facility is "conspiracy theory", and those who bring it up are kicked from the board. It isn't "conspiracy theory" if it's true, and it could well be. Makes more sense than getting it from eating bats.
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Is it AlternateHistory.com?
 
Consenticles said:
I expect many if these construction workers are part of the army.

In Chinese history, there is a precedent for mobilizing your army for more than just battle. The Great Wall itself was built by the army. Farmers went to being soldiers, then to construction workers, back to soldiers, and then back to farming the land nearby the wall construction sites.

Their army functions as a sort of fix-all band aid that can conform to what the government needs. The PLA isnt like a traditional western army, it is a system that allows you to be drafted into any mass project the CCP needs.
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The human rights lawyer said they where from various construction companies and fights have broken out between them but that is impossible to confirm.
 
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