Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Coleslaw]

Some of the death certificates are listing mental illness as the cause of death. It's a fucking joke.

A band of party officials was brought in to direct medical efforts. They are directing them in a manner that gives the appearance of everything going well.

I'd hate to get injured on a trip to China. Doctors don't have their own practices, everyone goes to the hospital. If you have a broken leg, you have just as much a chance of receiving a traditional remedy through an IV as you do having your leg set.

Regardless of the coronavirus, it's a very different standard of care.

Everybody who can afford goes private.

 

[Bat Soup Reviews]

Some of the death certificates are listing mental illness as the cause of death. It's a fucking joke.

A band of party officials was brought in to direct medical efforts. They are directing them in a manner that gives the appearance of everything going well.

I'd hate to get injured on a trip to China. Doctors don't have their own practices, everyone goes to the hospital. If you have a broken leg, you have just as much a chance of receiving a traditional remedy through an IV as you do having your leg set.

Regardless of the coronavirus, it's a very different standard of care.

Something interesting to note is Thailand is still not reporting much, despite being the no.1 international destination for Wuhan they've not announced shit. I think guys flying to Thailand to get their dick chopped off might have to hold on for a few months because something stinks here.

And this is probably going to become more apparent as more SEA nations close their borders to Chinese nationals in the next few days.

Wuhan virus: Visitors with recent travel history to China not allowed to enter or transit in Singapore

The new measures will kick in at 11.59pm on Saturday (Feb 1).. Read more at straitstimes.com.

www.straitstimes.com

UPDATE 1-Indonesia bars entry to visitors from China amid evacuation protest

Indonesia on Sunday barred entry to visitors who have been in China for 14 days over concern about coronavirus, as citizens evacuated from Hubei province faced protests by some residents on their return home.

www.reuters.com

 

[JosephStalin]

Thai doctors believe they have a treatment for coronavirus.

Cocktail of flu, HIV drugs appears to help fight coronavirus: Thai doctors

Thai doctors have seen success in treating severe cases of the new coronavirus with combination of medications for flu and HIV, with initial results showing vast improvement 48 hours after applying the treatment, they said on Sunday. The doctors from Rajavithi Hospital in Bangkok said a new approach

www.yahoo.com

Cocktail of flu, HIV drugs appears to help fight coronavirus: Thai doctors

By Panu Wongcha-um
February 2, 2020, 4:47 AM PST

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Cocktail of flu, HIV drugs appears to help fight coronavirus: Thai doctors
A woman wears a mask to prevent the spread of the new coronavirus as she waits for a train at Bangkok, Thailand

By Panu Wongcha-um

BANGKOK (Reuters) - Thai doctors have seen success in treating severe cases of the new coronavirus with combination of medications for flu and HIV, with initial results showing vast improvement 48 hours after applying the treatment, they said on Sunday.

The doctors from Rajavithi Hospital in Bangkok said a new approach in coronavirus treatment had improved the condition of several patients under their care, including one 70-year-old Chinese woman from Wuhan who tested positive for the coronavirus for 10 days.

The drug treatment includes a mixture of anti-HIV drugs lopinavir and ritonavir, in combination with flu drug oseltamivir in large doses.

"This is not the cure, but the patient's condition has vastly improved. From testing positive for 10 days under our care, after applying this combination of medicine the test result became negative within 48 hours," Dr. Kriangska Atipornwanich, a lung specialist at Rajavithi, told reporters.

"The outlook is good but we still have to do more study to determine that this can be a standard treatment."
Chinese health officials have already been administering the HIV and flu drugs to fight the coronavirus. The use of the three together in a cocktail seemed to improve the treatment, the Thai doctors said.

Another doctor said that a similar approach in two other patients resulted in one displaying some allergic reaction but the other showed improvement.

"We have been following international practices, but the doctor increased the dosage of one of the drugs," said Somsak Akkslim, director-general of the Medical Services Department, referring to the flu medicine Oseltamivir.

Thailand has recorded 19 cases of coronavirus. Of the Thai patients, eight have recovered and gone home while 11 are still under treatment in hospitals.

Somsak said the health ministry will meet on Monday to discuss the successful treatment in the case of the 70-year-old but said it is still too soon to say that this approach can be applied to all cases.

"Initially we will apply this approach only to severe cases," he said.

 

[Coleslaw]

Thailand is the best argument for republicanism. It shows constitutional monarchies can also be corrupt and coup-ridden.

 

[LetThemEatCake]

So the treatment is three anti-virals.

 

[Sanshain]

I find it hard to feel sorry for anyone who are so cruel to animals.

Hahahaha. You want to know the very best part? They did that entirely on purpose. I've seen a video of them boiling dogs alive, quite carefully and purposefully. The Chinese believe that meat tastes best when the animal is kept alive for as long as possible during the cooking process. They think the terror and pain releases chemicals into the meat that improve its tenderness and quality, so there is incentive to practice and make sure the animal is alive and conscious for as much of the process as biologically possible.

The Chad Bikers once related a story (sadly I've no idea what video of theirs it was in) where they discovered a restaurant which boasted about serving live monkey brain. What they'd do is strap the monkey down and wheel it to the table, then use hammers to crack open the skull and slowly extract the brain matter while the animal was still breathing, then eat it. I'm not even kidding.

There are a lot of younger Chinese people who were raised with an awareness of Western values who believe this behavior is utterly abhorrent, but there are still plenty who view it as not just natural but superior to other methods of meat consumption. That old racist joke about a couple taking their dog to a Chinese restaurant and accidentally ending up eating it as the main course? Absolutely not an exaggeration.

 

[mindlessobserver]

I'm starting to wonder if there is some truth to the idea that this is a man made virus. People pointing out the fact that its a weird bat virus whose binding receptors are remarkably similar to the HIV-1 receptors as opposed to normal coronaviruses that usually infect humans make a rather frightening case. And the sad truth is China is just incapable of assuaging such concerns. They are a closed system that reflexively lies about pretty much everything, and their past safety reputation means people would absolutely believe the incompetents would breach a biohazard containment lab. Its also quite believable the chinese government would be scummy enough to develop a novel virus strain that can infect humans. Its just a perfect storm.

 

[GloriousRapeRabbit]

I'm starting to wonder if there isn't some truth to the idea that this is a man made virus. People pointing out the fact that its a weird bat virus whose binding receptors are remarkably similar to the HIV-1 receptors as opposed to normal coronaviruses that usually infect humans make a rather frightening case. And the sad truth is China is just incapable of assuaging such concerns. They are a closed system that reflexively lies about pretty much everything, and their past safety reputation means people would absolutely believe the incompetents would breach a biohazard containment lab. Its also quite believable the chinese government would be scummy enough to develop a novel virus strain that can infect humans. Its just a perfect storm.

If there was a nation doing scummy stuff with biological weapons and allso failing to keep it under wraps all my bets would be towards china. No other nation does as many scummy things as they do, that i am sure of. With that being said i have no clue whatsoever if this is manmade or just a natural thing...but ye...dont trust the chinese government even for a second.

 

[Mike Stoklasa]

Twitter user Ray Lau has shared a video of what appears to be the inside of one of the new hospitals being built.

https://twitter.com/fiteray/status/1223909981658828800
archive: http://archive.li/wUf33

Spoiler: Quarantine vid

avjTYAHZOON8wX_Z.mp4

That "airlock" door is crooked.

 

[mindlessobserver]

If there was a nation doing scummy stuff with biological weapons and allso failing to keep it under wraps all my bets would be towards china. No other nation does as many scummy things as they do, that i am sure of. With that being said i have no clue whatsoever if this is manmade or just a natural thing...but ye...dont trust the chinese government even for a second.

It also doesn't help that the Chinese government made biotech a major party focus as part of its central economic planning. There was a huge institutional push to become the "world leader" in that particular field of science and technology. It led to among other things, a surge of chinese espionage of US pharamseutical and agriculture companies, spectacular free wheeling shenanigans like the CRISPR doc and his alleged HIV-immune mutants, and now this. The huge push to deliver results made by party officials who have no idea about what the science is or that running a biotech lab is not the same thing as running a tractor factory just makes the possibility of catastrophe all the more likely. US labs play with dangerous viruses all the time, but they do it very very carefully. American biological research labs are absolutely autistic if they are messing around with any virus, particularily an airborne one. But this also means things move at a MUCH slower pace. Probably too slow for a mid level party functionary who rose in the ranks running a shoe manufacturing line and got promoted to run a bio lab.

 

[dopy]

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That "airlock" door is crooked.

are you fucking saying it's SLANTED because asians can't see straight you fucking racist?!?!?! ARHGHGHGHG

 

[JosephStalin]

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That "airlock" door is crooked.

I see a sink. Is the sink hooked up to the water supply? Is that water potable? Is the drain hooked up to the sewer system? If the answer is "no", not a good sign at all.

Still want to know where all the equipment and supplies will be coming from. Also want to know where the extra staff will come from to work in this hospital. Not optimistic at all. If you pull equipment, supplies, and staff from existing hospitals you hurt treatment happening there. But if you plan to use the place as a death house, with no access to foreigners, that's a different matter.

 

[AlexJonesGotMePregnant]

has china done anything correct throughout this epidemic? no.

have chinese people done anything not retarded throughout this epidemic? no.

china is a joke and i hope their markets crash so hard that we stop pretending they're a first world country and yank every american dollar right out.

 

[Mr. Faget]

china is a joke and i hope their markets crash so hard that we stop pretending they're a first world country and yank every american dollar right out.

Nice in theory, but...the only thing more exceptional than China right now, is how many developed nations have money tied up in that shithole. They won't pull out easily.

 

[BillyGoat2]

has china done anything correct throughout this epidemic? no.

well, they are going full Police state on folks not wearing masks during a nationwide pandemic.

I'd say thats at least one thing right.

 

[Sanshain]

Nice in theory, but...the only thing more exceptional than China right now, is how many developed nations have money tied up in that shithole. They won't pull out easily.

If China goes down, it will have massive repercussions in the West. Which is honestly a good thing in my book. Times would likely become hard, but I'm willing to accept that if it means we stop importing millions of tons of cheap, useless, non-recyclable plastic junk from the land of near-zero industrial regulations.

 

[dopy]

If China goes down, it will have massive repercussions in the West. Which is honestly a good thing in my book. Times would likely become hard, but I'm willing to accept that if it means we stop importing millions of tons of cheap, useless, non-recyclable plastic junk from the land of near-zero industrial regulations.

just because mexico makes and sells drugs doesn't mean they can't also make and sell other things hazardous to our children for just as cheap as china ya know

by that i mean fentanyl

 

[Otterly]

The drug treatment includes a mixture of anti-HIV drugs lopinavir and ritonavir, in combination with flu drug oseltamivir in large doses.

I want to see more on this - they’ll have needed really big doses of tamiflu (osetalmivir) because it doesn’t work well against coronaviruses. I’m glad this guy recovered, but this is basically throwing everything at it and seeing what works. The other thing that springs to mind is how quickly viruses evolve protease inhibitor resistance. These arent drugs we want to be using routinely on millions.

 

[LetThemEatCake]

Hahahaha. You want to know the very best part? They did that entirely on purpose. I've seen a video of them boiling dogs alive, quite carefully and purposefully. The Chinese believe that meat tastes best when the animal is kept alive for as long as possible during the cooking process. They think the terror and pain releases chemicals into the meat that improve its tenderness and quality, so there is incentive to practice and make sure the animal is alive and conscious for as much of the process as biologically possible.

Is there any other culture that acts quite this unempathically and sadistically to animals? I know vegans love to sperg on and equivocate all kind of animal eating and slaughter as if a bolt through the head is morally and experientially the same as being skinned alive and boiled to death, but it clearly isn't true. You can make slaughter as quick and easy as possible, you can understand that animals feel pain and fear and try to minimize this deliberately, or you can indulge, equally deliberately, in torture as some Chinese do, where the whole point is pain and suffering. I'd say one ranks far, far below the other to the point of being almost a sign of sadistic, immoral nature on a cultural scale. It's not like they even think animals cannot feel pain - they clearly understand they do - they either don't care, if it means tastier meat, or vicariously enjoy the suffering. I cannot wrap my head around functioning like this, it isn't right on any level.

he Chad Bikers once related a story (sadly I've no idea what video of theirs it was in) where they discovered a restaurant which boasted about serving live monkey brain. What they'd do is strap the monkey down and wheel it to the table, then use hammers to crack open the skull and slowly extract the brain matter while the animal was still breathing, then eat it. I'm not even kidding.

Chilled monkey brains! I don't know why Short Round is shocked by anything at that banquet, he should be bloody well used to it as a Chinese. Seriously, monkey brains are used in certain Chinese cuisine, but again, this injection of deliberate cruelty is ... well it's fucking subhuman.

There are a lot of younger Chinese people who were raised with an awareness of Western values who believe this behavior is utterly abhorrent, but there are still plenty who view it as not just natural but superior to other methods of meat consumption. That old racist joke about a couple taking their dog to a Chinese restaurant and accidentally ending up eating it as the main course? Absolutely not an exaggeration.

I hope the younger folks with more awareness mean that this aborrhent practuces can die off withe the older folks. Unfortunately China has no animal cruelty laws at all. That's the first step. I imagine it's still a while away though.

 

[GloriousRapeRabbit]

Is there any other culture that acts quite this unempathically and sadistically to animals? I know vegans love to sperg on and equivocate all kind of animal eating and slaughter as if a bolt through the head is morally and experientially the same as being skinned alive and boiled to death, but it clearly isn't true. You can make slaughter as quick and easy as possible, you can understand that animals feel pain and fear and try to minimize this deliberately, or you can indulge, equally deliberately, in torture as some Chinese do, where the whole point is pain and suffering. I'd say one ranks far, far below the other to the point of being almost a sign of sadistic, immoral nature on a cultural scale. It's not like they even think animals cannot feel pain - they clearly understand they do - they either don't care, if it emans tastier meat, or vicariously enjoy the suffering. I cannot wrap my head around funcitoning like this, it isn't right on any level.

Halal slaughter used in the muslim world sure aint pretty either. Purely devoid of any empathy towards the animals. COuld not say if they are worse than the chinese though. I get the impression chinese likes to experiment more with cruelty but ye...cruel as hell in any case.