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My town isn't hit with the virus (yet, despite there's no cases that are nowhere near it) but it's an absolute ghost town. Only a few people are out and about for food, supplies, or getting gas. The near emptiness is a bit unnerving, to see the least. Makes me wonder how are workers feeling about it. Something in the vein of "Nobody is coming in, but I'm getting paid...right?".
 
Ad Lib Moaning said:
My town isn't hit with the virus (yet, despite there's no cases that are nowhere near it) but it's an absolute ghost town. Only a few people are out and about for food, supplies, or getting gas. The near emptiness is a bit unnerving, to see the least. Makes me wonder how are workers feeling about it. Something in the vein of "Nobody is coming in, but I'm getting paid...right?".
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I work retail

"Can't get sick if nobody comes in to buy shit."
 
I will say that the silver lining to this getting really bad (if it does) will be watching my favorite lolcows deal with corona chan. Maybe Amber Lynn will lose that weight from being unable to eat. Maybe DSP will be able to get out of bankruptcy because all the bankers are dead and can’t show up to court. Maybe boogie’s wife will come back to him because her big black bull died. So many possibilities.
 
Evilronald said:
I will say that the silver lining to this getting really bad (if it does) will be watching my favorite lolcows deal with corona chan. Maybe Amber Lynn will lose that weight from being unable to eat. Maybe DSP will be able to get out of bankruptcy because all the bankers are dead and can’t show up to court. Maybe boogie’s wife will come back to him because her big black bull died. So many possibilities.
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What will end Blade first, Corona-Chan or rotting leg diabeetus.
 
Hey, quick question, possibly dumb. So you know how the chicken pox virus goes dormant and can potentially trigger shingles in the future? Is it possible for a virus such as this to mutate in such a way to become dormant and cause future complications regardless of the damage it leaves behind (scarring and otherwise)?
 
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What will end Blade first, Corona-Chan or rotting leg diabeetus.
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Could be a combination. I don’t think that the fatality rate for people with chronic illnesses will be 20-40 percent in the US like in China, particularly if they are well controlled. However, knowing most type 2 diabetics they aren’t at all controlling it and would be highly susceptible to corona chan, particularly if they’re overweight. China does not have a healthcare system where it’s really possible to have any sort of control of diabetes and there’s a taboo against type 1 diabetes there (the genetic one that isn’t related to lifestyle).
 
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Went to Wal-Mart near a major military base. Some people wearing masks, lots of people buying bags of rice and flour and long term sustainables. Lots of prior service people stocking up and getting ready. The only masks there were shitty ones. No real panic, no warnings, but I noticed people were keeping their distance from one another and I saw a good amount of small children wearing masks.

Gonna see about hitting up some contacts and getting some filters for my old 80's era military gas masks. (Family's been trained on them since they were little) Gonna get an xtra-small one for the grand-daughter and teach her to wear it. Gonna see about getting some old canteens so we have extras for the water, along with more cans of ensure (You can drink it through the mask tube if you cut it with water or milk) and some other stuff.

Being a "prepper" isn't insane, it's disaster preparedness. I've been through: Volcanic eruption, earthquake, floods (in excess of 3' of water over the interstate), hurricane, polar vortex w/ power failure, power failures in excess of 3 weeks, forest fires. I've had to evacuate before with nothing more than what could fit in the car.

It's better to prepare and not need it than to be caught wanting, trust ol' Jet Fuel Johnny on this one.

Remember, boys and girls, rice and beans must be stored in a cool dry area, if you can, vacuum seal your bags after dividing into "meal packs", buy dehydrated fruit and the like, canned goods, and if you can afford it, MRE's for the people who will have to do high energy tasks in case of an emergency. Those "disaster buckets" are pretty popular, but I don't trust anyone to make my kit for me. If you want to make your own, buy buckets and lids and pack your own with an inventory list taped to the top.

Plastic sheeting for the windows doesn't hurt, as well as plastic sheeting with a zipper for the doors if you're feeling extra worried (have small infants and the elderly) about things.

I know that the news makes it sound like prepared people are all crazy end of times people, but that isn't true. During the wild fires in Oregon I was able to donate supplies (rotating out my stock) and was prepared if the fire departments lost control of the fires and it threatened my home.

Go by the old Cold War standard: 30 days of food for 1.5X the amount of people in your house. First aid kits, including burn treatment. Enough gauze to change the dressings on injuries for 30 days. Water for 30 days for 1.5X the amount of people in your house. Plastic sheeting. (If you're particularly morbid, body bags for 3X the amount of people in your house). Preventative medical supplies. Hatchets, axes, crowbars, shovels, pickaxes, and chainsaw if you can afford it with parts to rebuild 2 from scratch for rescue efforts or road clearing. Flares (ground and air) and if you can swing it, smoke grenades. Wind up radio. CB radio. Solar panel if you can afford it. Walkie-Talkies for 1.5X the amount of people in your family. Batteries batteries batteries. Rechargable batteries and solar panel. 2-4 vehicle 12V batteries with minimum 500 cold cranking amps. Maps of the surrounding area, topographical and aerial if you can swing it. 2 5-gallon cans of non-ethanol gasoline. If you can't get non-ethanol pour the gas from the cans in your tank on the first of each month and refill them. One case of oil per vehicle. Half case of tranny fluid and power steering fluid per vehicle. Anti-freeze. Enough to restock each vehicle 2X. Extra tires and rims for each vehicle to replace 2X. VEHICLE FILTERS. HVAC filters (x3). Firestarter sticks & 20 of those "4 hour chemical logs". Space blankets. Wal-Mart $30 comfortors (2X family members). Air mattresses. Canvas sheeting (if you can). Vicks. Vaseline. KY-Jelly. Sunburn gel w/ lidocaine. Snow-chains for vehicles (even if you're in the south, you may have evacuated north during the winter. Insect repellant (There's a lot of different types, I'd recommend getting the good stuff). Water purification tablets. Come-along rated at 1.5X weight of heaviest vehicle fully loaded and fueled, 200 feet of cable. Winch if you have a truck, combine it with brushguard. If you hvave the garage, basement, or outbuilding storage space, I suggest 2x4's, 4x4's, plywood as well as nails, hammers, screws, hand-saws along with a roll of barbed wire. Yellow "Danger" tape. Cans of black and red spraypaint. Fuses (vehicle and home). Extra socks and underwear. TAMPONS AND PADS in bulk. Towels. A couple boxes of those red rags. Cravats. Coloring books, spiral notebooks, crayons, markers, story books to keep kids busy. Classics and other books for adults during downtime (lots of people forget that part). Sharpies and the big magic markers in multiple colors but half of your markers should be standard black. Baby formulae even if you don't have a baby (6-12 cans should do it) as there's uses for it in a pinch for people with abdominal or GI injuries. Pink tummy goo, a half case, you'll be surprised how quick someone will start having stomach issues. Laxatives too. A couple boxes of diapers from premie to 2 year old, adult diapers if you're feeling up to it (these have a LOT of uses beyond you're caring for an elderly person, such as excursion members being able to wear them while out for 5 or more hours).

I shouldn't have to say this but: Anti-bacterial soap and spray. BODY SOAP (unscented). Deodorant. Shampoo. Bleach (10 bottles should do it). Laundry detergent (powder and liquid). Dryer sheets (these have uses beyond the dryer). Get everything unscented if you can, you don't want the scent overriding one of your primary senses that your brain uses for warning you of dangers.

Make sure that everyone in their family knows their job. Make sure everyone knows basic first aid. Make sure you have rally points and fallback points in case of separation during evacuation. Make sure you have bug-out paperwork with a copy of your birth certificate, SSN, and ID as well as any certifications you have. Make sure you have a bug-out bag that everyone can grab on the way out. Even toddlers love learning to grab their "buggybag" on the way out.

I shouldn't have to say this, but I will: Avoid fallen power lines, any smell of natural gas means GTFO, avoid water with iridescent patterning or that is completely free of bugs or algae (something in the water is killing it and it will kill you), drive slow around corners when evacuating after earth-quake or volcano (Speed kills). Do not enter any water that completely covers a road unless you have someone safety-lined in front of the vehicle. Avoid town and cities unless there is no other route choice. Follow Civil Defense instructions you get on your radio.

Make a packing list and diagram for your vehicles. Learn what you can pack in the car and what you can't. Pack it in INVERSE order of need, so that the stuff you'll need the most (blankets, first aid kits, fluids) are on top and stuff you'll need later (camping gear, clothing changes) are on the bottom.

Learn to change the fluids and filters in your vehicles as well as change your tires.

Learn how to make bread and noodles. If you're feeling particularly froggy, learn how to make bread with an open fire. Learn how to make an oven from easily obtainable supplies in a disaster. Learn how to tell expired/bad food/cans, food poisoning is a major risk after a disaster.

Learn how to use every tool you buy. Too many idiots think using an axe or hatchet just involves swinging. Those are the guys who are in the ER or dead on the ground with huge gashes to their legs or missing fingers.

Keep an inventory list with expiration dates and the date of the last time you inspected everything. Rotate stock often as necessary. Try to budget at least $50-$100 for each month and build your stocks over time. You can build it up pretty quickly with good budgeting and a plan. Remember to keep your stocks off the floor and at least 2" away from every wall. Use treated lumber shelves if possible, the lumber has additional uses.

The life you save may be your own.

I've seen a lot of advice on the type of mask and protective equipment to buy, I haven't seen anything like this from Jet Fuel Land.

Just because you don't need it for Corona-Chan if it faceplants and is a big nothing burger, it doesn't hurt to have all of that if you can afford it and put it together. I know, I know, it's a tough choice between $70 of prepper supplies and the newest version of Titty Simulator XXI, I feel your pain, brother, but trust me, spend it on the prepper stuff.

Just having a full tank of gas can spell the difference for you during an evacuation.

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Learn how to ID the common types of "Failure Status Diseases" like cholera, typhoic and the like and the treatment for it.

If it goes full on MAD/ELE then mentally prepare yourself for the following things:

Nobody is coming to save you and your family/loved ones/neighbors. If you want to survive, you must do it on your own. Self-reliance WHILE following Civil Defense/FEMA instructions will ensure your highest percentage chance of living.

A significant percentage of estimated casualty rates in an MAD/ELE scenario occur after the initial incident. People doing stupid shit and not listening to their hindbrain or common sense is a HUGE killer.

Know your disaster signs.
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Not a damned thing wrong with being a prepper. As well as boosting the odds of survival, it provides max flex in many situations. Being ready for something as potentially serious as this doesn't take more than common sense, an ability to remain calm & THINK & hopefully, more than 1 option for necessary action.

However this turns out, it isn't emitting "end of the world as we know it" vibes. More likely, a sad progression of illness in many communities, excess deaths & a lot of sadness for some families. Certain economic sectors will have a rough go, some businesses will fail but life will go on.

I've run into some pissy people on this subject but refuse to give up MY warped sense of humor. Sometimes the difference between keeping on keeping on & falling apart is a good, sick joke.
 
Computer Boy said:
What's the matter clown boy? You scared? You didn't seem scared a day ago.
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No I am not scared, because I am not a retard and use proper preventative measures like I do every flu season. I work with the public so I try to prevent myself from catching whatever aids the college kids are bringing from god knows after Winter break.
 
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