Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Unog]

So if you are in a sanitary location with adequate nutrition and care for symptoms similar to pneumonia, you will be fine.

I would think that wouldn't matter much if the hospitals and doctor's offices are full. There aren't an infinite amount of doctors, purell, facemasks, etc.

Maybe it's just me, and I'm by no means an expert in biology, but the idea of attempting to control viruses as weapons is the most exceptional idea for a weapon ever, and might even be one of the most stupid ideas of mankind as a whole.

A nuclear bomb? Sure, it's lethal. But it's predictable. Nothing some physicists can't calculate and control. It won't violate the laws of physics and be more than it should.

A virus? You are screwed if it gets out of control. They are literally the most lethal being on the planet, just above us (I know it's just one type, but still):

https://youtube.com/watch?v=YI3tsmFsrOg
The idea that you could control something like that is a combination of pure, arrogance, stupidity, and naivety that is just mind-blowing. Even a child would know better.

Even if you somehow were able to make it so that it targets certain people or that it doesn't become too contagious, there is no guarantee that your bioweapon won't mutate and become a nasty monster that nobody could control and could quite literally be the end of humanity, or at least most of it.

It's kind of reminiscent of Mary Shelley's Frankenstein. Or Eggman from Sonic the Hedgehog, lol.

If someone thinks this escaped from a Bioweapons Lab, then they have very low expectations of what a Lab would be producing. WuFlu qualifies as a lesser threat than the Flu; hardly the stuff of Dr. Strangelove. Coronaviruses are poor bioweapon candidates for a multitude of reasons.

The bioweapon fears are a little silly. Worry about an escaped bioweapon if smallpox suddenly pops back up or some strain of measles that smashes through vaccine immunity shows up somewhere.

People have pointed out earlier in this thread that not all bioweapons are made for mass murder. The concept exists of creating a bioweapon designed to simply fuck up the local population to the point that the economy, and possibly government functions, grind to a halt.

i think it's worth mentioning that people on twitter are continuously praising the CCP for building a hospital in 6 days instead of just popping up as many tent cities as possible in a distributed fashion in strategic locales which could all be put up in and around the infected cities in 2 days max. do you really want to spend a week in a hospital that was built in 6 days by that world-famous Chinese craftsmanship? well, when all you have is a hammer...

Yeah, it's almost as if though all those power shovels on already flat earth, building a hospital where they could set up a shitload of medical tents instead, doesn't make much sense. It's almost as if though all those power shovels could be there, digging, for another reason.

 

[acmeurquhart]

Breaking: Coronavirus Hits 15% Fatality Rate, 83% Infection Rate For Those Exposed

Lancet publishes early study that points to alarming consequences for humanity

www.infowars.com

With this high numbers and China's population density, we might actually get numbers rivaling The Great Leap Forward.

Oh, well. Plenty more where that came from. Chinamen, that is.

 

[Gar For Archer]

Well folks, just read that this virus is now confirmed TO BE CONTAGIOUS during the incubation period. This is a major 40-love lead tot he virus. Ladies and gentlemen, we have a virus on our hands with all the traits you'd want to see in a virus you don't want.

Winning traits:
1. Incubation period 1-14 days. Winner
2. Presents mild symptoms in the onset, often which can temporarily be cloaked with tylenol. Winner.
3. Is contagious during the typical incubation period - up to a week. Winner.
4. Doesn't kill it's hosts too quickly allowing it to be spread. Winner.
5. Is airborne. Winner.
6. Even when symptoms are showing can be mistaken for something else. Winner.

Get the popcorn out.

Too bad all the really deadly viruses have really boring symptoms. Like, what's more metal, growing gigantic, swollen, pus-leaking black sores, or coughing, but really really hard? Or, like, bleeding out through every orifice in your body, or just dying from a stronger-than-normal flu?

All I'm saying is, if humanity is gonna get totaled by a disease, I'd rather it be some body horror bullshit than just a fucking superflu.

 

[Pope Negro Joe the XIIIth]

This whole thing seems really familiar and I can't figure out why....oh wait.

1918 Pandemic (H1N1 virus) | Pandemic Influenza (Flu) | CDC

Everything you need to know about the flu illness, including symptoms, treatment and prevention.

www.cdc.gov

 

[TheJelqster]

Corona-chan doesn't give a shit about your politics. She's here for your lungs.

Word on the real numbers: around 15k infected, 8k suspected, 2600 dead as of yesterday. If those numbers reflect reality at all, it's about a 15% mortality rate.

Hardly a proper plague.

Is that the CCP numbers?

 

[Ivan Shatov]

And yet China is supposed to become the center of a new world hegemony by 2040.

Please.

Don't underestimate the power of massed stupid.

There's a tiny cadre of complete sadists pulling the strings over 1 billion pliant, gullible minds who fear disobedience and the shot to the skull that comes with it. With those numbers, you can get a lot done.

There's a good chance that this may shock the mainlanders enough to adopt better practices. Especially if family members start dying. Never underestimate the effect of seeing death first hand from something that's preventable. (CCP might also seize this opportunity to blast the hygeine propaganda at full blast. Might as well look good doing it.)

Much like how the Great Fire of London revolutionised fire-fighting, and how the Great Plague similarly promoted hygienic practices. Sometimes you need a disaster to wake people up. This might be the one.

There's a magnitude of scale problem. How do you get 1 billion people to change their behavior overnight? They could put hand soap and sanitizer in every bathroom stall, they would still need sinks and most people would just use it to masturbate. Regular people would not want to touch it because there would likely be cum all over the dispenser.

> 80% of the population in China still piss and shit in holes in the ground. We think of the country as this place with giant, heavily populated cities, which is true, but the average person in China is rural, believes in animal spirits, and will eat each other in times of food scarcity. They only go along with the CCP because they know the Communists will murder them otherwise, but they're about as bought into the system as Bernie Sanders is with Capitalism.

Is that the CCP numbers?

Police numbers from WeChat.

 

[TheJelqster]

Police numbers from WeChat.

I wouldn't trust it then, the police in China is corrupt and is just the Army-lite.

 

[TerribleIdeas™]

Well shit, we really do have a Uber-Plague running around.

I wonder how us folks in the West will react when it innevitably spreads like wildfire in the more "Progressive" areas. Hopefully with a bullet in the head to the degenerates that purposefully spread this Bug around.

I'm looking forward to a shit ton of anti-vaxxers refusing to get the vaccine, so them and their kids can be the evolutionary dead-ends they deserve to be.

 

[Isam]

Police numbers from WeChat.

Big if true. Were there any word on number of recoveries?

I wouldn't trust it then, the police in China is corrupt and is just the Army-lite.

If it's official in any capacity then it does at least indicate that it is worse than previously officially reported.

 

[Ivan Shatov]

I wouldn't trust it then, the police in China is corrupt and is just the Army-lite.

Oh, those numbers are bullshit. The real numbers are much higher.

The police know the consequences of speaking the truth. It's like the Price is Right, they have to give a number without going over. Go too high and you're writing confession letters in a hotel while they decide whether or not to murder you. Go too low and it's your ass carting off corpses from the epicenter.

 

[You Just Know]

I recommend to anyone who is interested in this to check out the Event 201 Pandemic exercise there are 4 segments of it that took place 3 months back, where a bunch of our overlords LARP about a corona virus outbreak. They present a mock demonstration calling this presentation a "fictional scenario" while going through the rounds of what is gonna happen. Well funny thing is it wasn't actually fiction it was just a warning to all the Bankers and Big Business to brace themselves because this shit was obviously planned well in advance.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Vm1-DnxRiPM

Ah yes good old Illuminati early warning hotline, available publicly on youtube dot com.

 

[Iwasamwillbe]

Is this disaster better or worse than the Australian fires?

 

[JosephStalin]

Whoa. This is a megathread now. Just sorry to see things have progressed to the point where this thread is likely to go on for a while.

Take care of yourself out there, folks. Use common sense. Watch where you go, what you drink and eat. If you need a mask get one, get hand sanitizer, etc. if needed.

And if you pray, send some prayers out. Can't hurt.

 

[simulated goat]

Too bad all the really deadly viruses have really boring symptoms. Like, what's more metal, growing gigantic, swollen, pus-leaking black sores, or coughing, but really really hard? Or, like, bleeding out through every orifice in your body, or just dying from a stronger-than-normal flu?

All I'm saying is, if humanity is gonna get totaled by a disease, I'd rather it be some body horror bullshit than just a fucking superflu.

I dunno, being kept alive on machines for weeks while having four or five pounds of bloody pus pumped out of your lungs daily sounds pretty gnarly.

 

[dopy]

Is this disaster better or worse than the Australian fires?

both of them drive down the price of chinese real estate, so it depends if you hate the chinese economy or not i suppose

 

[TheJelqster]

Is this disaster better or worse than the Australian fires?

I would say this. While the Aussie fires were God awful, they were caused by lack of regional care for local firefighters, and they will died down from lack of fuel. Here though? Humans are the fuel.

 

[thismanlies]

No more BATS & SNAKES for gourmands: China bans WILDLIFE trade after virus outbreak linked to agricultural producers

China's Agriculture Ministry has banned trade in wildlife nationwide to curb the outbreak of the deadly coronavirus. Wild animals consumed for food are believed to be the source of the outbreak.

www.rt.com

Thank god China banned the suspected disease vector animals. Now China is safe.

Now all they need to do is crack down on gutter oil.

 

[Bunny Tracks]

If anything, the only numbers I'm willing to give some credence to are the ones coming from the ones working in the hospitals. Pretty sure someone already posted this, but this video features a hysterical worker claiming that doctors estimate the number of infected is around 100,000.

 

[AMHOLIO]

With china being unreliable numbers wise along with its peoples current levels of stress + not great healthcare muddling things, it seems like theres nothing for us in other countriesto do but watch cases crop up and see how the government responds. While people are dying, I have a bit more faith in the western healthcare system to at least manage things better (the people are always a tossup).

Interesting read: https://www.washingtonpost.com/heal...5a4e_story.html#click=https://t.co/RP8JNWURBS

Unprecedented Chinese quarantine could backfire, experts say - The Wa…

archived 26 Jan 2020 17:04:54 UTC

archive.today

Forgive me if late, the thread is moving at the speed of sound.

 

[Fareal]

So, if the information being reported here from (probably) fairly reliable sources is correct:

We have a virus, which is airborne/droplet borne, with an 83% infection rate after exposure. It has up to 14 days incubation time, and it's contagious during then. Symptoms can be mild - similar to a heavy cold - and there's at least one child who was reported as an asymptomatic carrier.

Every parent knows what this means: this virus is going to look exactly like the 'current' nursery/school cold that goes round every childcare facility/school about once a month. Your kid won't seem too sick, you will whack some Calpol/baby Tylenol/etc into them to keep their temp down, tell them to wash their hands and use a hankie.

And then that afternoon you will let their grandparents in their sixties or seventies collect them from school, because you're at work. And it's only a cold. Sure, grandma has a touch of asthma in the winter, but it's not like she's old or sick, is it? It's only a sniffle.