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Well folks, just read that this virus is now confirmed TO BE CONTAGIOUS during the incubation period. This is a major 40-love lead tot he virus. Ladies and gentlemen, we have a virus on our hands with all the traits you'd want to see in a virus you don't want.

Winning traits:
1. Incubation period 1-14 days. Winner
2. Presents mild symptoms in the onset, often which can temporarily be cloaked with tylenol. Winner.
3. Is contagious during the typical incubation period - up to a week. Winner.
4. Doesn't kill it's hosts too quickly allowing it to be spread. Winner.
5. Is airborne. Winner.
6. Even when symptoms are showing can be mistaken for something else. Winner.

Get the popcorn out.
Well shit, we really do have a Uber-Plague running around.

I wonder how us folks in the West will react when it innevitably spreads like wildfire in the more "Progressive" areas. Hopefully with a bullet in the head to the degenerates that purposefully spread this Bug around.
 
If this is true it means that taking people's temperature before they leave China is useless and they may have let a lot of people infected with the virus leave the country.
Yup,it means any sort of border screening is basically a waste of time.

I guess the CCP figured this out last week and thats why they went from denial and pretending it wasnt an issue to full on end of days response with locking down city's overnight.Also makes it clear why they started building make-shift hospitals even when they claimed to only have less than '500' cases,they knew its gonna get exponentially worse in the coming week.

Prevention seems to be a non starter and mitigation is going to be the response going foward in the west.


At least China and the CCP are gonna get royaley fucked on multiple fronts for the foreseable future :optimistic:
 
No more BATS & SNAKES for gourmands: China bans WILDLIFE trade after virus outbreak linked to agricultural producers
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FILE PHOTO. Customers eat snake soup in Hong Kong. ©REUTERS / Bobby Yip

China's Agriculture Ministry has banned trade in wildlife nationwide to curb the outbreak of the deadly coronavirus. Wild animals consumed for food are believed to be the source of the outbreak.

The ministry banned trade in wild animals – alive or dead – in markets, supermarkets, restaurants, and e-commerce platforms, as well as the transportation of wildlife. It also ordered a quarantine of all places where such animals are bred, it said in a joint statement with the Forestry Department.
Two seafood markets in the big industrial city of Wuhan are believed to have been the starting point of the 2019-nCoV virus outbreak, which has already claimed more than 50 lives in China.

The virus causes flu-like symptoms and is transmittable between humans. The exact animal species that transmitted the infection to humans is yet to be identified, with bats and snakes mentioned as possible candidates.

Earlier on Tuesday, the ministry ordered stricter control of wildlife with a focus on Wuhan, but stopped short of banning it altogether nationwide. Dishes incorporating wildlife are considered gourmet in many parts of China. They have been slowly going out of favor in larger cities like Beijing, but the demand remains relatively high in certain provinces.

Preservation activists say the taste for wild animals is a bane for biodiversity as it encourages poaching. There are also law enforcement issues, since rules on licensing, prohibition of trade in live animals, and other restrictions are reportedly often ignored or avoided by traders.

Beijing was criticized over its failure to curb the practice after the 2002-2003 SARS epidemics, which was traced to consumption of wild animals in the southern city of Guangzhou. That infection spread to more than 8,000 people in 17 nations and killed almost 800 of them.

The Chinese government is undertaking some drastic measures to contain the spread of the new virus. Wuhan, a city of 11 million people, has been quarantined, while travel restrictions have been imposed in the entire Hubei Province.
Thank god China banned the suspected disease vector animals. Now China is safe.
 

Thank god China banned the suspected disease vector animals. Now China is safe.
China isn't "safe" until it completely overhauls its entire hygiene habits in response to this.
 
Well shit, we really do have a Uber-Plague running around.

I wonder how us folks in the West will react when it innevitably spreads like wildfire in the more "Progressive" areas. Hopefully with a bullet in the head to the degenerates that purposefully spread this Bug around.
Corona-chan doesn't give a shit about your politics. She's here for your lungs.

Word on the real numbers: around 15k infected, 8k suspected, 2600 dead as of yesterday. If those numbers reflect reality at all, it's about a 15% mortality rate.

Hardly a proper plague.
 
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China isn't "safe" until it completely overhauls its entire hygiene habits in response to this.
Dude, hand soap is a colonialist plot to most Chinese people. That's never going to happen, they'd rather just eat dog testicles to make themselves super-immune.
 
Imagine a future where the virus is permenantly airborne. The public has to wear suits that are mostly shut for their protection, but they discover that the virus doesn't attach itself to Polyester or wool. So they use the only mostly sealed suits they have access to: Furry customs.

Imagine Stalker, only the protection gear when you go scavenging above ground is furry suits.
 
5 million left Wuhan before the quarantine, currently 1000 "likely" cases in wuhan out of 2700 suspect cases.

The minister in charge of the national health commission has said;
"There are signs showing the virus is becoming more transmissible. These walking ‘contagious agents’ [hidden carriers] make controlling the outbreak a lot more difficult.” ...Ma said that the epidemic was accelerating and “may last for some time”.

And this hard hitter
“It is possible that there will be more cases,” :story:

They are also planning to add 5000 more beads in Wuhan, ie converted buildings and new hospitals. Also some other minister says that china can make 30k protective suits a day, but this is less than a third of the needs for Hubei province :stress:

 
Well folks, just read that this virus is now confirmed TO BE CONTAGIOUS during the incubation period. This is a major 40-love lead tot he virus. Ladies and gentlemen, we have a virus on our hands with all the traits you'd want to see in a virus you don't want.

Winning traits:
1. Incubation period 1-14 days. Winner
2. Presents mild symptoms in the onset, often which can temporarily be cloaked with tylenol. Winner.
3. Is contagious during the typical incubation period - up to a week. Winner.
4. Doesn't kill it's hosts too quickly allowing it to be spread. Winner.
5. Is airborne. Winner.
6. Even when symptoms are showing can be mistaken for something else. Winner.

Get the popcorn out.
Well shit, It could get real interesting here in the states in the coming weeks, I can only imagine the chaos an outbreak would cause in a large city like Chicago or New York. Time to stock up on supplies then, pray for me boys.
 
i think it's worth mentioning that people on twitter are continuously praising the CCP for building a hospital in 6 days instead of just popping up as many tent cities as possible in a distributed fashion in strategic locales which could all be put up in and around the infected cities in 2 days max. do you really want to spend a week in a hospital that was built in 6 days by that world-famous Chinese craftsmanship? well, when all you have is a hammer...
 
Dude, hand soap is a colonialist plot to most Chinese people. That's never going to happen, they'd rather just eat dog testicles to make themselves super-immune.
And yet China is supposed to become the center of a new world hegemony by 2040.

Please.
 

Thank god China banned the suspected disease vector animals. Now China is safe.

Chinese people will still continue to eat weird shit even with a ban. It's what they CRAVE!!
 
China isn't "safe" until it completely overhauls its entire hygiene habits in response to this.
There's a good chance that this may shock the mainlanders enough to adopt better practices. Especially if family members start dying. Never underestimate the effect of seeing death first hand from something that's preventable. (CCP might also seize this opportunity to blast the hygeine propaganda at full blast. Might as well look good doing it.)

Much like how the Great Fire of London revolutionised fire-fighting, and how the Great Plague similarly promoted hygienic practices. Sometimes you need a disaster to wake people up. This might be the one.
 
And yet China is supposed to become the center of a new world hegemony by 2040.

Please.
as the US releases its grip on world power due to multiple failing systems over time, it's going to be a war for control (i.e., influence) again. it'll be interesting to see competitions between megaregions (china, russia, india, EU, etc). weber pointed out that war is the agent which catalyzes efficient government bureaucracy. so we'll find out, assuming we don't die of coronavirus.
 
BREAKING: CORONAVIRUS HITS 15% FATALITY RATE, 83% INFECTION RATE FOR THOSE EXPOSED
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BREAKING: The U.S. news media is currently running about one to two days behind the Chinese media in covering the bombshell revelations surrounding the coronavirus pandemic. Natural News has Chinese-speaking investigators on the ground in Taiwan, and they’re scanning the Chinese media for the most important announcements.

Earlier today, the Taiwan media began reporting on a new mainland Chinese study that specifically looked at the individuals involved in this Wuhan coronavirus outbreak. We have a partial translation and link below. According to this news, which is widely circulating in the Taiwan press and is based on a study published in The Lancet, the Wuhan coronavirus fatality rate has leaped to 15%, and the infection rate among those exposed is 83%.

These numbers are virtually unheard of in the world of microbiology and infectious disease transmission. It means that 15 out of every 100 infected people will die. It also means that 83 out of 100 exposed people will become infected and able to transmit the disease to others.


So for every 100 people who are exposed, around 12 will die (15% of 83).

The only criticism of this study is that its sample size was relatively small, given that it’s still very early in the outbreak of this disease. The study looked at 41 cases of individuals who were exposed.

IF THE INFECTION RATE STANDS AT 83%, THIS PANDEMIC WILL BE IMPOSSIBLE TO CONTAIN

The story is from TaiwanDaily.net and says this (translated):

Hong Kong and Chinese researchers published the latest research on “New Coronavirus 2019” (referred to as “Wuhan pneumonia”) in the medical journal “Lancet” on the 24th. Chinese experts pointed directly to the disease. The [fatality] rate is fifteen percent. Hong Kong experts confirmed for the first time that Wuhan pneumonia can be transmitted from person to person, and patients may not have surface symptoms. Taking a Shenzhen seven-person home with six people as an example, the analysis shows that the attack rate is as high as 83% and the incubation period is three to six days It is expected that a large number of cases will break out in China within a week, and the next two weeks will be a crucial period to prevent any place from becoming “another Wuhan”.

The same article also reveals the recorded rate of symptoms among those who are infected:

Overall, 98% of the symptoms were fever, 76% coughing, 44% muscle pain or feeling tired.

With 98% showing fever, this means that one out of 50 people infected will show no fever and therefore easily bypass current screening methods that are practiced by health officials.

If one in 50 infected people is able to get through screening that’s primarily looking for fever and respiratory symptoms, it means this outbreak is highly unlikely to be contained.

The article from Taiwan also describes the slow progression of symptoms, in some cases taking as long as eight days to appear:

As a result, one person had fever and diarrhea in Wuhan one day; many relatives they visited also began to have fever and cough on the fourth day; another did not go to Wuhan, but lived with four family members who were subsequently diagnosed, and the eighth day also began Found physical discomfort and confirmed the illness.

THE LANCET PUBLISHES THE STUDY: MORE DETAILS

As we were working on this story, The Lancet study appeared, providing more details and a direct link to the research article. You can find it here:

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30183-5/fulltext

The findings:

By Jan 2, 2020, 41 admitted hospital patients had been identified as having laboratory-confirmed 2019-nCoV infection. Most of the infected patients were men (30 [73%] of 41); less than half had underlying diseases (13 [32%]), including diabetes (eight [20%]), hypertension (six [15%]), and cardiovascular disease (six [15%]). Median age was 49·0 years (IQR 41·0–58·0). 27 (66%) of 41 patients had been exposed to Huanan seafood market. One family cluster was found. Common symptoms at onset of illness were fever (40 [98%] of 41 patients), cough (31 [76%]), and myalgia or fatigue (18 [44%]); less common symptoms were sputum production (11 [28%] of 39), headache (three [8%] of 38, haemoptysis (two [5%] of 39), and diarrhoea (one [3%] of 38. Dyspnoea developed in 22 (55%) of 40 patients (median time from illness onset to dyspnoea 8·0 days [IQR 5·0–13·0]). 26 (63%) of 41 patients had lymphopenia. All 41 patients had pneumonia with abnormal findings on chest CT. Complications included acute respiratory distress syndrome (12 [29%]), RNAaemia (six [15%]), acute cardiac injury (five [12%]) and secondary infection (four [10%]). 13 (32%) patients were admitted to an ICU and six (15%) died. Compared with non-ICU patients, ICU patients had higher plasma levels of IL2, IL7, IL10, GSCF, IP10, MCP1, MIP1A, and TNF?.

Interpretation:

The 2019-nCoV infection caused clusters of severe respiratory illness similar to severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus and was associated with ICU admission and high mortality. Major gaps in our knowledge of the origin, epidemiology, duration of human transmission, and clinical spectrum of disease need fulfilment by future studies.

Note the language saying there are “major gaps in our knowledge” about the “duration of human transmission.”

Also note the more detailed list of symptoms offered by The Lancet:

Fever: 98%
Cough: 76%
Fatigue: 44%
Sputum production: 28%
Headache: 8%
Haemoptysis: 5%
Diarrhea: 3%

Also note it took eight days to develop dyspnoea, or difficulty breathing.

Also notice that 12% suffered “acute cardiac injury” which means permanent damage to the heart.

Sadly, through policies such as open borders, filthy liberal cities and biosludge “recycling” of human sewage onto food farms, humanity has created the “perfect storm” for a pandemic wipeout that cannot be stopped:
With this high numbers and China's population density, we might actually get numbers rivaling The Great Leap Forward.
 
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Who are you kidding? They'll just wipe out the snakes and bats, then wonder why populations of pest species they fed on are now exploding and eating their crops.
I like to believe the CCP is a more rational actor than that since Mao's days, but it's probably also :optimistic: from my end.

At the end of the day, this is a disaster of their making, and they'll have to cop the consequences one way or another.
 
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