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Does anyone find it strange that OG covid and Delta didn't rip through the world like Omicron did? During/just after Delta, most of the restrictions were relaxed, no lockdowns, no masks (in the UK) most people double-jabbed and the cases were so/so. Now omicron came along, with masks and restrictions in place, with most people double-jabbed and boosted, and it just went through the population like wildfire.
I'm not talking the high case numbers - that's because everyone went mental on testing everyone with the sniffles, but i heard very few people say they had caught covid up until Omicron, now every man and their dog has it.

How is that?
Because most people were immune. OG Covid was neutralised by antibodies from endemic Coronaviruses. If only 20-30% of the population are able to catch the virus the R0 will remain low. Omicron is different in that it is able to take advantage of the vaccine antibodies and bypass existing cross immunity. South Africa's outbreak was fast but numbers wise no bigger than the other Covid waves. Why? Because only 25% of their population had been vaccinated. Look at the graphs on worldometer, the higher the vaccination rate the more people catch it.

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There's a reason that the unvaxxed aren't catching the Omicron.
 
The first ones weren't as infectious as Chad Omicron.
I hear that as the reason a lot. What I don't get is how Omicron defeated all of the 'barriers' in place; masks etc AND ripped through the population, where Delta was pretty much given an open goal and did nothing. Omicron would have to multiple times more infectious and spread in a different way to delta, for it to have hit everyone so hard.

TL;DR - Being a Paranoid-schitzophrenic, autistic window-licker, I just don't swallow the line of "it was more infectious, trust me bro". It's like it was designed to be uber-turbo infectious.
 
I hear that as the reason a lot. What I don't get is how Omicron defeated all of the 'barriers' in place; masks etc AND ripped through the population, where Delta was pretty much given an open goal and did nothing. Omicron would have to multiple times more infectious and spread in a different way to delta, for it to have hit everyone so hard.

TL;DR - Being a Paranoid-schitzophrenic, autistic window-licker, I just don't swallow the line of "it was more infectious, trust me bro". It's like it was designed to be uber-turbo infectious.
Well, all the so-called "barriers" were useless against the OG strains. Also, the only indication that Omicron is a lab "leak" is that it might have come from mice.
 
We've been in this thread for how long now and have still forgotten the concept of antibody-dependent enhancement?
 
See, small minded zoomer, so long as you're more concerned about your personal comfort than opposing tyranny, the point is to feign compliance until your oppressors give up and ignore you.
I just want everybody to keep in mind that while this advice is sound in most employment contexts, it will not work if you are a "healthcare worker" or, more rather, you just so happen to work in a medical facility and/or agency.

This is because the threat of not being able to bill Medicaid and Medicare is absolutely lethal to a facility. They have a large incentive to check.

For the unwashed Brits in this quintessentially American thread, it would be almost like if the NHS checked and found a pureblood in the workplace, and forced a penalty that the whole place would be cut off from billing them.
 
Things are getting weird. I live in what was the most Covidian place on the planet. The messaging is unchanged, get boosted, work mandates and vaxx passes for everything. The reality is the complete opposite. No one checks your papers anymore, employers are paying lip service to the mandates and there are zero restrictions except pointless mask rules. The government is saying they will bring in mass rapid tests for work and schools but no one can seem to get their hands on them. Maybe a month from now they'll start handing them out except in a couple of weeks Covid will all but disappear as we're obviously close to herd immunity.

Everyone I know has caught and recovered from Covid, every single person except me. General consensus when talk of vaccines comes up is that they're useless and that Covid is a shitty cold. But turn on the TV and it's wall to wall fear porn with breathless discussion of overflowing Covid wards and mass deaths. My missus, who has for the past two years considered my anti vaxx views ridiculous is now red pilled and screams at the talking heads when they talk about hospitals. "I work in a Covid ward motherfucker and all I do is prick the fingers of fat pacific islanders and check my phone." The code brown nonsense sent her over the edge. Hold on? We were screaming for staff a couple of weeks ago when everyone had to go off sick for a week when they caught the sniffles, but now everyone's back at work NOW they call a code brown?? Yes dear it's the government, what did you expect?

I think they were hoping that the Omicrons was at least somewhat deadly, maybe the same death rate as the flu. They could run with that, sell it to the masses when nursing home patients and deathfats started to die from it but alas it turned out to be just about the mildest cold in history and they seem to be at a loss in how to respond. All their carefully laid plans for a social credit system, a top down surveillance state with chipped nigger cattle, a great economic reset where we will own nothing, live in pods and eat bug paste to stop climate change, all those plans gone up in smoke because some South African lab worker didn't wash his hands. Ah well better luck next time.
Weirder it get the more people start to notice the weridness
 
Well, all the so-called "barriers" were useless against the OG strains. Also, the only indication that Omicron is a lab "leak" is that it might have come from mice.
Omicron has a direct lineage from the original Wuhan strain. It is unrelated to any of the subsequent variants. Wuhan Covid has been extinct for coming on two years. How did a vaccine evading variant, which has a spike protein preference for mouse ACE receptors, evolve in humans from a form of Covid that hasn't circulated in humans for 2 years? Well obviously it didn't.


Covid has a hard time infecting mice and it hasn't been proven that the virus is endemic in the species. Nonetheless all the evidence suggests Omicron came from mice.

Mice are far from ideal in terms of transmission of a zoonotic virus. We don't farm mice. We don't eat mice. We may come into contact with their droppings but faecal transmission has all but been disproven with Covid. Historically the best candidates for animal to human transmission are domesticated animals, particularly farm animals, pigs and chickens. The reasons are straightforward, people who tend to them spend a great deal of time with them. They clean up their shit, they eat their flesh, they come into constant contact with their body fluids. Zoonotic transmission that can cause a pandemic viral outbreak in humans requires constant infection and re-infection to challenge any virus to hit a genetic sweet spot that enables it to jump from human to human and not just animal to human. For example MERS has been around for a long time but has never managed to make that leap.

Ignoring the obvious that humanised mice are widely used in virus and vaccine research, the fact that a ready made and uber infectious virus emerged fully formed to cause, at least by numbers, the biggest and fastest viral pandemic in the history of the species (almost the entire planet will have been infected in less than 6 months) is unprecedented. Omicron Covid is likely the most infectious but least virulent respiratory virus known to science. If a viral 'vaccine' was going to be fabricated in a lab it would look exactly like Omicron.

It's not like this hasn't happened before


The most famous case of a released laboratory strain is the re-emergent H1N1 influenza A virus which was first observed in China in May of 1977 and in Russia shortly thereafter [3], [4]. This outbreak marked the return of a seasonal H1N1 human influenza virus after a nearly 20-year absence following its displacement during the 1957 H2N2 pandemic. Scientists quickly realized that something was unusual about this re-emergent H1N1 strain; it was genetically similar, though not identical, to an H1N1 isolate from 1950 [5], [6]. Initially it was suggested that this virus could have lain dormant or evolved slowly in non-human hosts for decades, but it is now generally assumed that the virus was kept frozen in a yet unidentified laboratory

That shitty flu we all get every few years? Yes that was also grown in a Chink lab just like Covid.

RSV, another zoonotic virus found in chimps and leaked/released from a lab with a ridiculous cover story that it was the human scientists who had it and gave it to the chimps and we just hadn't noticed. Honest it's true!

We seriously need to consider halting all viral research or else at least contain it to a few super secure locations well away from third world shitholes with lab workers who won't wash their hands or steal test animals for dinner.

The main suspect for the leak is South Africa's CSIR level 3 facility which has received significant funding from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation to conduct whole virus research for SARS Cov-2 in particular attenuated live vaccines. Surely just a coincidence that Omicron would emerge on their doorstep just like the Wuhan Institute of Virology conducting gain of function research on bat Beracoronaviruses.
 
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The main suspect for the leak is South Africa's CSIR level 3 facility which has received significant funding from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation to conduct whole virus research for SARS Cov-2 in particular attenuated live vaccines. Surely just a coincidence that Omicron would emerge on their doorstep just like the Wuhan Institute of Virology conducting gain of function research on bat Beracoronaviruses.

"we need a new way to do vaccines" - Bill Gates in November
 
Some immunocompromised people are whinging about corona restrictions being over.



But as soon as Prime Minister Boris Johnson and the health secretary announced the end of Plan B measures in England, including the advice to work from home if possible, her manager called her, pressuring her to come back to the workplace.

"It's terrifying, absolutely terrifying," [Julie] says. Most of her job in customer service can be done online, but a small part involves sometimes managing the front desk of an organisation with thousands of people.

If coronavirus measures such as self-isolation come to an end, those people could pose a greater risk to her - along with the estimated 500,000 people who have conditions which mean vaccination may not work for them.

"People lean over the counter, they're in your face. My boss doesn't care that he will put me in an extremely risky position with hundreds or maybe thousands of people coming to the desk, vaccinated or not, and now not wearing any masks," she says.

"I understand that a lot of people are really fed up with all the restrictions. But I just feel like a second-class citizen now."

Omicron is the most nothing of all burgers, yet still with the sheer fear and panic. Do any of the other cold and flu viruses knocking about terrify her anywhere near as much?

On the prospect of ending mandatory self-isolation, she says: "It's just terrifying from our point of view in the immunosuppressed community. The thought of people just wandering around and coughing and sneezing over everybody and it's just fine!"

Over Christmas, she says was able to take a calculated risk and hug her grandson Arthur - who was visiting with her daughter from Massachusetts in the US - for the first time since May 2019.

But that depended on the rest of her family taking extra care with lateral flow testing and cutting their other contacts, including her daughter cancelling a planned trip to London as the Omicron variant surged in the capital.

Just sad. Sad and pathetic. And so entitled as well. No one owes her anything. No one should have to take part in this farce just so she can feel a tiny degree less anxious. But she owes it to her grandchildren not to be so terrified of human contact.

While many people are conscientious in trying not to spread the virus, [Angela] says others are unsympathetic, with some telling her on Twitter to "get on with your life" after she recently posted about her continued shielding.

People compare it to the risks of everyday activities like driving a car, Angela says. "It's like getting in a car with no brakes, ice on the roads and a blindfold on. I wouldn't do that, the risk is too high."

Unsympathetic, yet it's the best advice that could be given.

It's a shame. The propaganda has been so strong that some people will never come back from this, or it could take them some time at least. Time that is probably already cut short on account of being immunocompromised. What a depressing existence.
 
We've been in this thread for how long now and have still forgotten the concept of antibody-dependent enhancement?
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was peeping the local stat and ... this is odd maybe it because the majority is vax and they're no distinction between because of covid or with covid but..
 
Dr. Andrew Huff is claiming that Peter Daszak was a CIA asset:





Why am I not surprised?
 
Some immunocompromised people are whinging about corona restrictions being over.





Omicron is the most nothing of all burgers, yet still with the sheer fear and panic. Do any of the other cold and flu viruses knocking about terrify her anywhere near as much?



Just sad. Sad and pathetic. And so entitled as well. No one owes her anything. No one should have to take part in this farce just so she can feel a tiny degree less anxious. But she owes it to her grandchildren not to be so terrified of human contact.



Unsympathetic, yet it's the best advice that could be given.

It's a shame. The propaganda has been so strong that some people will never come back from this, or it could take them some time at least. Time that is probably already cut short on account of being immunocompromised. What a depressing existence.
They don't want it to end. Ignoring globohomo and the lizard people pulling the strings from their moon bases:

For the the bored Karens and beta-cucks they married this is the most exciting thing to happen to them since Shelly in HR divorced her husband.

For the twitter experts™ and TV doctors this is the first time anyone cared about their years of schooling beyond "what wrong - give drugs" (Classic spurned nerd ego power trip).

For the laptop class/white-collar bureaucrat, they got to sit at home in their pajamas and in the case of many Canadian civil servants be paid their regular highly inflated salary to literally do nothing.

For an entire generation and subset of people afraid to pick up a fucking telephone and talk to a stranger to order a pizza, this was a dream come true and can just point to the deadly plague killing everyone it comes in contact with as a reason to be vindictive and anti-social. Branch Covidian is such a great saying because it's a new religion in almost every sense of the word. Now the people that evangelised for 2+ years are going to have and try and convince the masses that there is no God.

Good luck!
 
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The sarcastic route can get repetitive but this girl does well in laying out all the bullshit that fat psychotic teachers put the kids through and the one guy in the back just tries to ignore her when she keeps throwing out more and more things the kids dealt with.
Lol at the dude in the background trying to ignore her while she drops truth bombs.

Also some angry grandma getting dragged in the comments for shitting on her: https://twitter.com/Eileeng27736970/status/1484437963161456644

Does anyone find it strange that OG covid and Delta didn't rip through the world like Omicron did? During/just after Delta, most of the restrictions were relaxed, no lockdowns, no masks (in the UK) most people double-jabbed and the cases were so/so. Now omicron came along, with masks and restrictions in place, with most people double-jabbed and boosted, and it just went through the population like wildfire.
I'm not talking the high case numbers - that's because everyone went mental on testing everyone with the sniffles, but i heard very few people say they had caught covid up until Omicron, now every man and their dog has it.

How is that?
1) There were actually more cases in the beginning than initially reported. Currently there is evidence of COVID in the US as early as mid December 2019 while the panic didn't really set in until mid-to-late February 2020, with shit like moosking and lockdowns in March 2020. Its also why the lethality of COVID was gravely overestimated in the opening waves, because they weren't counting all the people who were catching it but going unnoticed.

2) Because of the way evolution works. Basically each successive generation of virus is getting better and better at spreading (faster infection time & surviving longer outside the body) as well as greater resistance to the bodies immune system (be it natural or vaccine-induced).

Now the reason the vaxxed are bearing the brunt (albeit not all infections or hospitalizations) is because their resistance to the virus comes from just 1 out of 11 (I think, might be as high as 13, don't quote me on it) proteins on the virus (the spike or S-protein); while those with natural resistance have antibodies against both S & N (nucleocapsid) proteins and T-cells which recognize five additional proteins on the virus, including critical internal proteins.
 
Narrative seems to be collapsing and unravelling. Of course, Germans, along with Italians and Austrians, are still trying to push, push and push a bit more.

I'm being pressured into taking the magic juice more than ever and it sucks because either it's gonna be mandated and I am so so close to having made it through it without getting vax-raped and yet I might still fail in the last stretch only for it to be abolished, perhaps, a month later. Or, you know, I'll lose more than just my job if I refuse and get banned from even more shit. I can toss a coin to see which one is more likely to happen.

I'm currently gambling my future on the narrative collapsing quickly enough for me to escape without the jab and without seeing my whole future be flushed down the toilet.

Let's take a deep breath and inhale some good hopium here, and assume it WILL unravel. Let's assume the rest of Europe sees the error in their ways and things start returning to pre-pandemic levels of "normal" in most places....

Let's assume that.

What do I do with the distrust I have now for, like, 95% of my fellow Germans? What do I do with the disgust I have for them? What do I do about knowing they'd have sold me down the river, would've cheered on my deportation into a vax camp? I don't think I can ever forgive and forget. I lost my job because of this, I lost friends.
I'm also afraid many of the people I have come to know through this will let their guard down and relax and start getting complacent when it's NOW that the veil has been torn from their eyes and they can see how messed up every single branch of society, finance, medicine and science is.

So... what to do? I feel like even IF we "win" this (for now), it's gonna be a huge loss anyway.

*sad noises*
 
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