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Covid-19 raises risk of depression and dementia, study suggests
People diagnosed with Covid-19 in the previous six months were more likely to develop depression, dementia, psychosis and stroke, researchers have found.
A third of those with a previous Covid infection went on to develop or have a relapse of a psychological or neurological condition.
But those admitted to hospital or in intensive care had an even higher risk.
This is likely to be down to both the effects of stress, and the virus having a direct impact on the brain.
UK scientists looked at the electronic medical records of more than half a million patients in the US, and their chances of developing one of 14 common psychological or neurological conditions, including:
  • brain haemorrhage
  • stroke
  • Parkinson's
  • Guillain-Barré syndrome
  • dementia
  • psychosis
  • mood disorders
  • anxiety disorders
Anxiety and mood disorders were the most common diagnosis among those with Covid, and these were more likely to be down to the stress of the experience of being very ill or taken to hospital, the researchers explained.
Conditions like stroke and dementia were more likely to be down to the biological impacts of the virus itself, or of the body's reaction to infection in general.
Covid-19 was not associated with an increased risk of Parkinson's or Guillain-Barré syndrome (a risk from flu).

Cause and effect​

The study was observational, so the researchers couldn't say whether Covid had caused any of the diagnoses - and some people would have had a stroke or depression in the next six months regardless.
But by comparing a group of people who had had Covid-19 with two groups - with flu and with other respiratory infections respectively - the researchers at the University of Oxford concluded Covid was associated with more subsequent brain conditions than other respiratory illnesses.
The participants were matched by age, sex, ethnicity and health conditions, to make them as comparable as possible.
Sufferers were 16% more likely to develop a psychological or neurological disorder after Covid than after other respiratory infections, and 44% more likely than people recovering from flu.
On top of this, the more severely ill with Covid the patient had been, the more likely they were to receive a subsequent mental health or brain disorder diagnosis
Mood, anxiety or psychotic disorders affected 24% of all patients but this rose to 25% in those admitted to hospital, 28% in people who were in intensive care and 36% in people who experienced delirium while ill.
Strokes affected 2% of all Covid patients, rising to 7% of those admitted to ICU and 9% of those who had delirium.
And dementia was diagnosed in 0.7% of all Covid patients, but 5% of those who'd experienced delirium as a symptom.
Dr Sara Imarisio, head of research at Alzheimer's Research UK, said: "Previous studies have highlighted that people with dementia are at higher risk of developing severe Covid-19. This new study investigates whether this relationship may also hold in the other direction.
"The study doesn't focus on the cause of this relationship and it is important that researchers get to the bottom of what underlies these findings."
There is evidence the virus does enter the brain and cause direct damage, neurology professor Masud Husain at the University of Oxford, explained.
It can have other indirect effects, for example by affecting blood clotting which can lead to strokes. And the general inflammation which happens in the body as it responds to infection can affect the brain.
For just over a third of people developing one or more of these conditions, it was their first diagnosis.
But even where it was a recurrence of a pre-existing problem, researchers said this did not rule out the possibility that Covid had caused the episode of illness.
Prof Dame Til Wykes, at the Institute of Psychiatry, Psychology and Neuroscience, King's College London, said: "The study confirms our suspicions that a Covid-19 diagnosis is not just related to respiratory symptoms, it is also related to psychiatric and neurological problems.
"Looking over six months after diagnosis has demonstrated that the "after-effects" can appear much later than expected - something that is no surprise to those suffering from Long Covid.
"Although as expected, the outcomes are more serious in those admitted to hospital, the study does point out that serious effects are also evident in those who had not been admitted to hospital."

Just an observational study, but if found to be true just another reason to add to the 100s of reasons to get the vax, and to act smart while out aka everyone wearing masks and keeping 2 meters while shopping.

Be smart and stay safe everyone, don't be this idiot woman.
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Like you said, it's an early observational study, I'd like to point out the hysteria at the beginning of all this from the videos of people just dropping in the middle of streets. It seems like there isn't an inherent link by the virus itself, but more from conditions caused (I'd also argue that stress/anxiety could also be noise generated by lockdowns since long-term social isolation is known to be bad for mental health, that and obviously being in an HDU or ICU is extremely stressful too).
It's too early to call in my opinion, especially if it turns out to be not of significant difference (this is why it'd be nice if news sites would actually cite studies for once, just so it isn't a pain of looking up keywords and possible authors since it'd be good to see these things from the actual source itself).

So the AZ vaccine is linked to clots even in low platelet patients? Wonder what would be the mechanism behind that. From a quick glance on BMJ it seems that infection/vaccination could be infecting platelets which are then synthesizing spike proteins (and then a subsequent autoimmune event), but that's currently very early days research too.
 
Smug Chuckler said:
Vaccine kills you but at least it prevented covid. :biggrin:
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InB4 "But at least you didn't spread it to others!"
evrae said:
Like you said, it's an early observational study, I'd like to point out the hysteria at the beginning of all this from the videos of people just dropping in the middle of streets. It seems like there isn't an inherent link by the virus itself, but more from conditions caused (I'd also argue that stress/anxiety could also be noise generated by lockdowns since long-term social isolation is known to be bad for mental health, that and obviously being in an HDU or ICU is extremely stressful too).
It's too early to call in my opinion, especially if it turns out to be not of significant difference (this is why it'd be nice if news sites would actually cite studies for once, just so it isn't a pain of looking up keywords and possible authors since it'd be good to see these things from the actual source itself).
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The problem is people blaming everything on the virus and not the reaction to the virus.

Wouldn't have the economic damage if we didn't shut down.
Wouldn't have chronic stress disorders if you didn't lock people inside and feed them fear porn non-stop.
 
Fanatical Pragmatist said:
InB4 "But at least you didn't spread it to others!"

The problem is people blaming everything on the virus and not the reaction to the virus.

Wouldn't have the economic damage if we didn't shut down.
Wouldn't have chronic stress disorders if you didn't lock people inside and feed them fear porn non-stop.
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Yeah, it doesn't help that mental health services were completely shut due to the lockdown until quite recently (at least in my country). I know that a friend had a diagnostic appointment delayed for about a year, being told that it was due to getting all the preparations and approval from government to reopen.

I've mostly kept my head out of covid for quite a while now due to focusing on my current work and most news put up is just outright doom-saying. What happened with any sort of treatment options? Did they just kind of fall on the wayside due to everyone treating vaccination as some sort of holy grail or something? If so it makes me question why they didn't have a plan B or such in the event the vaccines didn't work/become outdated (which the media seems to constantly go back and forth on).
 
Old person dies by COVID: This is so tragic! They had so much more time left! Trump has blood on his hands! Stay the fuck home! You're killing grandma!

Old person dies by vaccine: Oh well, it's for the greater good. Average lifespan is XX, so they were on their way out. A few people are gonna die from the vaccine anyway. Get your shot!
 
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clusterfuckk said:
It should be a giant R for re tard

Like the re tard who keeps spamming this thread with their branch Covidian propaganda
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I agree, so much bullshit propaganda in this thread, those tards just need to get over their vax fear, it's like they want this shit to go on forever to create a new normal.
 

Nearly half of new coronavirus infections nationwide are in just five states — a situation that is putting pressure on the federal government to consider changing how it distributes vaccines by sending more doses to hot spots.

New York, Michigan, Florida, Pennsylvania and New Jersey together reported 44% of the nation's new COVID-19 infections, or nearly 197,500 new cases, in the latest available seven-day period, according to state health agency data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. Total U.S. infections during the same week numbered more than 452,000.
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At least Florida has the "Spring Break" excuse. What about the other four heavily blue states?

Also, no Texas. Interesting.
 
How 90% of people view this thread, probably. I've seen it posted on Facebook twice, so it must be wildly popular. Gotta love consensus-building.
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Also, I think I've seen this before...
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Jarolleon said:
How 90% of people view this thread, probably. I've seen it posted on Facebook twice, so it must be wildly popular. Gotta love consensus-building.
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I honestly hope that this comic goes down in internet history as poorly as the infamous Bors Society Comic.

It's like you can feel the smug and the "holier-than-thou" attitude ebbing from the panels.
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At least Florida has the "Spring Break" excuse. What about the other four heavily blue states?

Also, no Texas. Interesting.
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1) Oh look but overall case count* is still in a depression: https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#trends_dailytrendscases
(not that case count is a useful metric for a virus with a 99.8% survivability rate, but it shows these states aren't doing anything new)

2) So Florida is arguably one of the most open states in the country right now and is pretty much tied with 3 of the 4 most heavily mandated states?
Gee, its like a fucking virus doesn't care about the rules or something...?
 
Salubrious said:


At least Florida has the "Spring Break" excuse. What about the other four heavily blue states?
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Being shit holes that only serve to slowly asphyxiate their residents is a highlight of a blue state.

Salubrious said:
Also, no Texas. Interesting.
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Here we shoot the virus on sight. I use snake shot out of a revolver.

Bakarina said:
There's been a bunch of illegals that have been released in texas that were covid positive so it could be to keep that hush hush. Statistics are filled with a bunch of lies, what else is new
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Never stopped them before. They were constantly harping about El Paso this and El Paso that and being this huge hotspot. Never did they deem it necessary to mention that the cases were Mexicans getting on the international bridge and waiting for the state-side ambulances who were obligated to pick them up. It is truly unfathomable how deep the bullshit is at every turn you take.
 
Wow, there has been a hashtag about canceling our head Branch Covidian priest trending on Twitter all day, and I've seen only ONE KPop clip under it. I mean, 95% of the hashtag was people complaining about the hashtag, of course, but at least the goddamn KPop brigading is dying down.
 
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