Wuhan Coronavirus: Lockdowns, Quarantines, Cancellations

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What's the death rate in Singapore these days? Is this actually useful or are they being idiots?


If you can believe the government numbers, they look like they've done well. They are, of course, willing to go pure authoritarian to do it and Singaporeans are willing to take it. That does make a difference.
 

If you can believe the government numbers, they look like they've done well. They are, of course, willing to go pure authoritarian to do it and Singaporeans are willing to take it. That does make a difference.
Singapore, Malaysia and a number of these SE Asian countries don't pretend to be something that they are not. They are full authoritarian, they have their red line, if you cross it, you will get fucked hard. The people who live in these places understand and accept this. A lot of this reaction and continued lockdown regarding covid can be linked back to the SARS outbreak in early 2000s. They were hit with a large number of cases then and therefore have a solid lockdown/plan if an outbreak happens, as is here.

I remember hearing from friends in Singapore months ago when the world was going into "come back home and lock down" mode. They managed to get their kids back from abroad before the government locked down, after that people were explicitly told by the government "if your kid flies in from college/uni, don't bother picking them up, we will do so. Picked everyone up and dumped them into high class hotel rooms for 14 days while they tested them before releasing them back to their parents.

Authoritarian yes, but they got their shit together way ahead of most places. They had other SEA countries flying in their sick because they didn't have testing capacity.

Malaysia was doing fine until there was a large religious gathering (thousands of people) which became a cluster. It became spread enough that they ordered effectively in house arrest on the entire population with only the most essential of travel allowed. Had a relative who went to visit his elderly and widowed mother picked up by the police. They let him off, but warned him the army was coming in the next week with heavy duty equipment. Tanks, humvees etc. Basically said if he didn't want to get shot or have the shit kicked out of him, he was to stay at home.
 
Singapore, Malaysia and a number of these SE Asian countries don't pretend to be something that they are not. They are full authoritarian, they have their red line, if you cross it, you will get fucked hard. The people who live in these places understand and accept this. A lot of this reaction and continued lockdown regarding covid can be linked back to the SARS outbreak in early 2000s. They were hit with a large number of cases then and therefore have a solid lockdown/plan if an outbreak happens, as is here.

I remember hearing from friends in Singapore months ago when the world was going into "come back home and lock down" mode. They managed to get their kids back from abroad before the government locked down, after that people were explicitly told by the government "if your kid flies in from college/uni, don't bother picking them up, we will do so. Picked everyone up and dumped them into high class hotel rooms for 14 days while they tested them before releasing them back to their parents.

Authoritarian yes, but they got their shit together way ahead of most places. They had other SEA countries flying in their sick because they didn't have testing capacity.

Malaysia was doing fine until there was a large religious gathering (thousands of people) which became a cluster. It became spread enough that they ordered effectively in house arrest on the entire population with only the most essential of travel allowed. Had a relative who went to visit his elderly and widowed mother picked up by the police. They let him off, but warned him the army was coming in the next week with heavy duty equipment. Tanks, humvees etc. Basically said if he didn't want to get shot or have the shit kicked out of him, he was to stay at home.

And I appreciate that the SE Asians don't pretend. It would never work in America, our culture has a contrarian streak a mile wide. I like Singapore and I like that they're not half-assing things or playing politics.
 
What does mail in voting gain them? My communist friends are really pushing it.
Extremely easy to fuck with, "find" ballots
There's no register to see how many people voted. A box of ballots disappears from a post office here, one disappears there, "The Republicans just didn't vote this year."

And I imagine workers at nursing homes and similar community residences will be "helping" people cast their votes. Family members, too.
Re: Nursing homes, they already were doing that shit in the late 90s-early 00s. My mom was a nurse and there would always be people every election coming to take the residents to go vote, including ones of questionable mental state. I'm totally sure nothing funny happened.
 
My temporary salary reduction will be lifted at the end of August, so at least that's some good news for me.

NY is doing alright with cases. I got my nails done and ate out for breakfast (although with masks), that was nice. I still feel 100% done with this lockdown shit.
 
This weekend, I was at the beach. It was busy for that beach, but nowhere near crowded. Beach is in a rural area and only really known to locals. I was surprised to see some people standing at least 40yds away from the next nearest group wearing full masks. Just...why?

I dropped the teen off at a lake just a few miles away. It was absolutely crowded as fuck and basically no one wore a mask or social distanced. Here were definitely all the people who would comply if forced but clearly thought COVID-19 was overblown and not worth pissing on a beautiful summer day over. Teen reported not one bitching or macewielding member of the Mask Police.

I have not seen any signs supporting the re-election of our governor Woke Karen, but plenty of handmade ones telling us to vote him out and signs for literally any other candidate.

That's good to see. We have got to boot them out of office for this shit. These politicians only care for their political futures, they don't bother to think that the lock down might be unnecessary.

My temporary salary reduction will be lifted at the end of August, so at least that's some good news for me.

NY is doing alright with cases. I got my nails done and ate out for breakfast (although with masks), that was nice. I still feel 100% done with this lockdown shit.

So let me see if I get this straight... New York is Being Torn apart by "protests" with people put together like a bunch of sardines. And yet, the number of cases is alright? There's something There's Something Fishy in there... that means that opening up bars and restaurants is a death sentence but all these protests are just fine? And the protests aren't causing the cases to go higher? Just how long are people going to buy that this virus is so scary and so fatal? These riots are proving that this virus is not that dangerous ironically , an irony that's obviously lost on them. Givin how we're creating more effective treatments and drugs for this virus , without mentioning herd immunity kick in , just who the hell still thinks that all of this lockdown and masks are truly necessary?
 
That's good to see. We have got to boot them out of office for this shit. These politicians only care for their political futures, they don't bother to think that the lock down might be unnecessary.
At this point, it seems to me he thinks he wins either way. Either he is re-elected or, if not, will go down in history as some great martyr for the cause.
 
So let me see if I get this straight... New York is Being Torn apart by "protests" with people put together like a bunch of sardines. And yet, the number of cases is alright? There's something There's Something Fishy in there... that means that opening up bars and restaurants is a death sentence but all these protests are just fine? And the protests aren't causing the cases to go higher? Just how long are people going to buy that this virus is so scary and so fatal? These riots are proving that this virus is not that dangerous ironically , an irony that's obviously lost on them. Givin how we're creating more effective treatments and drugs for this virus , without mentioning herd immunity kick in , just who the hell still thinks that all of this lockdown and masks are truly necessary?
New York City had so many cases and most people there live in shitty apartments perfect for spreading the disease so there might be some borderline herd immunity at this point.

I still don't get why protesting is okay (when half the protestors don't wear masks) because "outdoors doesn't spread the virus" but mandatory outdoor mask laws are everywhere and something like going to a baseball game is forbidden and outdoor seating at restaurants is severely restricted or banned and will get the police sent in. You'd think tens of thousands in the streets during a "dangerous pandemic" would be cause for the National Guard to round up everyone involved and quarantine them in some prison camp. But we should thank Saint Floyd for the protests, because the inaction and encouragement from politicians and corporations and the few weeks with almost no coronavirus coverage pretty much broke the spell on the normies who still thought this was a dangerous pandemic. Traffic returned to normal and people went about their lives again and it started looking like a normal summer again, minus the people wearing masks and the WEAR A MASK, CITIZEN propaganda billboards.
 
New York City had so many cases and most people there live in shitty apartments perfect for spreading the disease so there might be some borderline herd immunity at this point.

I still don't get why protesting is okay (when half the protestors don't wear masks) because "outdoors doesn't spread the virus" but mandatory outdoor mask laws are everywhere and something like going to a baseball game is forbidden and outdoor seating at restaurants is severely restricted or banned and will get the police sent in. You'd think tens of thousands in the streets during a "dangerous pandemic" would be cause for the National Guard to round up everyone involved and quarantine them in some prison camp. But we should thank Saint Floyd for the protests, because the inaction and encouragement from politicians and corporations and the few weeks with almost no coronavirus coverage pretty much broke the spell on the normies who still thought this was a dangerous pandemic. Traffic returned to normal and people went about their lives again and it started looking like a normal summer again, minus the people wearing masks and the WEAR A MASK, CITIZEN propaganda billboards.
NYC had so many cases/deaths because the governor in his INFINITE WISDOM sent sick elderly patients back to nursing homes, where other noninfected old people live, instead of keeping them at hospitals because he was afraid of them exceeding capacity which I don't think ever happened.
 
I think the divide is in the indoor/outdoor thing. The virus doesn't spread well outdoors... so all protests for all causes are fine. As are outdoor church services, baseball games, beaches, sports, dining, ect. But if you go to a protest and scream directly in each other's faces that will up your risk level and transmission. Singing at an outdoor church service or screaming at a ballgame would probably do the same - although I don't know if virus particles go up into the sky or out and down to land on the people in the row in front of you.

That's all assuming this virus is actually real. I waffle on that sometimes.
 
New York City had so many cases and most people there live in shitty apartments perfect for spreading the disease so there might be some borderline herd immunity at this point.

I still don't get why protesting is okay (when half the protestors don't wear masks) because "outdoors doesn't spread the virus" but mandatory outdoor mask laws are everywhere and something like going to a baseball game is forbidden and outdoor seating at restaurants is severely restricted or banned and will get the police sent in. You'd think tens of thousands in the streets during a "dangerous pandemic" would be cause for the National Guard to round up everyone involved and quarantine them in some prison camp. But we should thank Saint Floyd for the protests, because the inaction and encouragement from politicians and corporations and the few weeks with almost no coronavirus coverage pretty much broke the spell on the normies who still thought this was a dangerous pandemic. Traffic returned to normal and people went about their lives again and it started looking like a normal summer again, minus the people wearing masks and the WEAR A MASK, CITIZEN propaganda billboards.

So its a case of "congratulations, you played yourself" when the left tries to have both agendas and run with it.

All we gotta do now is reopen businesses to let the economy sort itself out. The problem is that a lot of people have grown attached to their chains and now will fight to protect their slave masters (then again, they were always retarded to begin with so this isnt surprising). It reminds me of the story with the men chained in the cave and one of them being set free and then trying to tell his chained brothers that there is more than the shadows on the cave but they love the chains and shadows so much they refuse to believe. The masks have come the modern chains and shadows...

NYC had so many cases/deaths because the governor in his INFINITE WISDOM sent sick elderly patients back to nursing homes, where other noninfected old people live, instead of keeping them at hospitals because he was afraid of them exceeding capacity which I don't think ever happened.

Well you know, one "good" thing this pandemic did was show us how truly incompetent our mayors and governors truly are. We knew it already but these last few months truly have been eye opening for a lot of people at the sheer extention of said incompetence and corruption. It seriously reminds me almost none of them are qualified for the job but SOMEONE has to do it so it doesnt become a matter on who is better but who is less shitty at it (but still shit none the less).

I think the divide is in the indoor/outdoor thing. The virus doesn't spread well outdoors... so all protests for all causes are fine. As are outdoor church services, baseball games, beaches, sports, dining, ect. But if you go to a protest and scream directly in each other's faces that will up your risk level and transmission. Singing at an outdoor church service or screaming at a ballgame would probably do the same - although I don't know if virus particles go up into the sky or out and down to land on the people in the row in front of you.

That's all assuming this virus is actually real. I waffle on that sometimes.
I do not doubt COVID-19 is real in the fact it exists, but is it as bad as it was sold? Clearly not and I have no idea why a good part of the population refuses to see that and move on.

Covid exists and I have a "theory" that the virus affected the chinese more severely for several cultural and enviromental factors (and even biological, maybe, it could affect asians more but dont quote me on it). When it spread into other enviroments and people, the virus clearly wasnt able to be as dangerous outside of those that would have probably died of something else if it wasnt Covid this year. The media and the left saw a golden oportunity (assuming they didnt PLAN for this to happen, election year and all) and decided to roll with it and scare the population and sell them the solution (which are forced injections). Dont even get me started on the digital certification of vaccination and tattoos...

But as I said to people, if this virus was as dangerous as the media said, we would all be dead or dying. There are more infected yes but thanks to larger number of testing and fuck, just because you have covid, doesnt mean you are sick OF covid (you still get counted either way, pricks...).
Im still surprised at how little the average joe seems to know about how viruses and immune systems work...Everyone is getting this virus sooner or later, the ones that dont survive werent going to survive anything else either way (thats sadly called natural selection). We shouldnt expect the goverment to sell us a solution when mother nature already built one into our bodies, which is ALREADY doing its thing with diminishing death rates.

theyre diabetic, old, and obese.

As I said, most of these people would have died this year anyway in the hands of something else. Its a cold way of seeing things but thats how it is. A LOT of people die by diseases every year, most of them being because of their health conditions not helping at all. Corona is simply the "diva" of viruses, its average but its the one that the media decided to make a boogeyman out of.
 
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia has gone into "Stage IV" lockdown, with the rest of the State going into "Stage III" lockdown, thanks to a renewed outbreak. Residents can only leave their homes to work, shop, provide care and exercise. Masks are mandatory. Civic institutions are generally shutdown, religious ceremonies are to be held online and schools have returned to online-only classes. For Melbourne, there is now a curfew from between 8 PM and 5 AM. Police can issues fines for those found in breach of these rules, up to $1.6k for individuals and $10k for businesses.
 
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Melbourne, Victoria, Australia has gone into "Stage IV" lockdown, with the rest of the State going into "Stage III" lockdown, thanks to a renewed outbreak. Residents can only leave their homes to work, shop, provide care and exercise. Masks are mandatory. Civic institutions are generally shutdown, religious ceremonies are to be held online and schools have returned to online-only classes. For Melbourne, there is now a curfew from between 8 PM and 5 AM. Police can issues fines for those found in breach of these rules, up to $1.6k for individuals and $10k for businesses.
My sincere sorrow for the Aussies having to put up with such a sudden authoritarian stint, you poor bastards don't serve this shit. Now I've become more concerned of the US governors getting a whiff of this and salivating at the prospect of inflicting this on their constituents...
 
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia has gone into "Stage IV" lockdown, with the rest of the State going into "Stage III" lockdown, thanks to a renewed outbreak. Residents can only leave their homes to work, shop, provide care and exercise. Masks are mandatory. Civic institutions are generally shutdown, religious ceremonies are to be held online and schools have returned to online-only classes. For Melbourne, there is now a curfew from between 8 PM and 5 AM. Police can issues fines for those found in breach of these rules, up to $1.6k for individuals and $10k for businesses.
This is the future of literally every single country where coronavirus is "under control", since they can't actually eliminate the virus and it's pathetically easy to import the virus from elsewhere. Having an outbreak of a few hundred people is easy since it can spread within homes and apartments and the mandated masks are little better than a placebo, and apparently a few hundred cases in a city of over a million is enough to make people shut it down. And yes, this will happen after the vaccine is available since the disease will keep mutating every few months to get around the vaccine and natural immunity, at least until people wise up about how this disease is so survivable.

Imagine how ironic it would be if this is the disease that destroys civilization. Not a new Black Death or some "1/3 of humanity dies" pandemic like people often imagine, but a cough that mostly kills the elderly, obese, and immunocompromised and has a fatality rate of maybe half a percent.
 
Imagine how ironic it would be if this is the disease that destroys civilization. Not a new Black Death or some "1/3 of humanity dies" pandemic like people often imagine, but a cough that mostly kills the elderly, obese, and immunocompromised and has a fatality rate of maybe half a percent.
That's how history will see it because the dumbass politicians who really destroyed us will use all their power to make sure they don't get blamed for it in the present
 
That's how history will see it because the dumbass politicians who really destroyed us will use all their power to make sure they don't get blamed for it in the present
No, I'm confident history will look back on 2020 and see it as a year of insanity. It will just be considered a "radical revisionist perspective" and is debated for years and eventually accepted as truth after it seeps into pop culture with factoids like "did you know that the COVID-19 pandemic of 2020 had an extremely low fatality rate outside of the very elderly but politicians in democratic nations still shut down society without a vote and made everyone wear masks to stop it's spread?" Or "today I learned that the coronavirus pandemic of 2020 only killed a million people, funny how the people back then freaked out over it they destroyed the world economy for a few years." If we're lucky this will be by around 2120 when the century anniversary of the Chinavirus comes up.

It'll take a few generations before the event is far enough away from politics, memory, and conscience for historians to write anything useful on since for a very long time "historians" will suppress this like Southern historians suppressed anything questioning the Lost Cause of the South for many decades.
 
Redpill me on the study about people not wearing masks being dumb. I know its stupid but I wanna know if there are any obvious flaws with it. not that saying "ur just dumb Xd" invalidates someones argument or anything its just interesting to me that someone bothered to study this.

Also anyone know any more regulations that make it hard for hospitals to hire more staff and build more room for beds? Ideally the law of supply and demand would be driving the market like crazy to build more hospitals but supposedly we are being overwhelmed. But I also hear from you kiwis that it isnt true so I wanna know about that as well. Thanks lads.
 
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