If I might die so the rest of my family and my country can actually have a semblance of a life, then that sucks but so be it, at least I'd be allowed to take that gamble for myself. Because at the end of the day, every government exists for the reason of giving people a reasonable quality of life, even if they do so reluctantly like China and North Korea. I'm not even a libertarian, I'm a "big gubmint libtard" at heart, and you know why I'm a big gubmint libtard? Because in an ideal world the government should act to help people and work for their country so everyone might enjoy freedoms. That doesn't mean acting for a small group of individuals. Sure, it's nice to help them, but not at the expense of causing widespread suffering for everyone else. And as a nationalist, this response is absolutely detrimental to the American people both now and for the next few months.
Slurp up on that doorknob. No-one, especially not me, is stopping you.
Per your idea regarding the state, no, actually, the state exists to support Society in providing what society itself will not produce, but still needs to Function. This includes law enforcement,
Crisis management and socioeconomic administration within a given scope such that certain human rights are preserved. Unlike what you may like to believe regarding how callous we can be, psychologically normal, functional adults consider thousands of people dying to be a fucking crisis, surprise surprise, the state then is obliged to respond accordingly per society's mandate off governance which requires a certain level of confidence that in return for putting up with administrative gaffes, corruption and other shenanigans endemic to that aggregation of political power
And you know what else cures a plague? Everyone getting infected with it so the disease burns itself off and mutates into a less virulent form. Especially if it's the strains which literally are "just a flu bro!" This cannot be contained and the way the disease spreads easily defeats these foolish efforts at containment. So the majority of those old people I've been forced to suffer for months for will still die anyway. Whoops!
You know what cures a plague faster, more efficiently and without acting like a troop of shit-sniffing chimpanzees? Anti-viral agents, including Vaccines. Almost like we've been studying how to do this for centuries. Almost like to properly make such drugs such that we are sure we can inject them into people without fucking up and making things worse, we need time to formulate the agents, develop the processes for manufacture, and triple-fucking-check that we aren't poisoning people. Whoops!
Nevermind that you clearly have no fucking clue how viral mutation works and that there is no way in hell anyone who knows what they're talking about would bet that our immune systems will 100% certainly out-smart mother nature organically.
"I've been forced to suffer" you poor, poor thing, asked to stop running around being a vector for the contagious spread and mutation of a pandemic-level virus such that people don't die. Asked to stay in your home which you'd probably be doing anyways (as you post on Kiwi Farms) and make adjustments to your personal schedule such that you can't grace the public with your beautiful, unmistakable, 100% unique and necessary presence. The entire nation weeps. Bettter kill some elderly people so we may bask in the glory of thine divine presence once more.
I can't wait to see what things will look like in a month or two. I fully expect widespread rioting because more and more people won't be putting up with this shit. Because fuck disease, they want some luxury. Expect stores broken into everywhere, and expect the National Guard shooting people in the streets with Strykers and other armored vehicles while the dying are hauled off to death camps in stadiums (let's play with fire and risk mutating the disease worse!) Maybe big-ass Army vehicles at roadblocks with some "papers, please" or just patrolling around everyone will bring the reality home to people that we turned our country into North Korea or WWII occupied France almost overnight and didn't do a thing to stop it. Who would've thought all you needed to institute totalitarianism is a slightly worse than normal flu?
Weren't you just on about the elderly people "you had to suffer?" Now you'dre playing expert on how other people are going to respond to basic pandemic measures? Really?
Where are these National Guard Gestapo, If they Kill me, I don't have to share genetic material with human refuse lik you. Got any pics? Any evidence of their mass atrocities? Plans to commit such atrocities? I thjought we weren't supposed to care about a few thousand people dying here.
"Risk mutating the disease even worse" Wow, almost like that's what would happen in live vectors for the virus to mutate in as well. If only there were some specific measures we could put in place to prevent- oh, wait.
I do that every time I get behind the wheel of a car. Society permit a certain risk in activities in exchange for greater benefits. If people don't want to accept that risk, they can stay home. We make necessary sacrifices for the greater good in every part of life and society, and there is little logical way the greater good here includes instituting the worst totalitarianism seen outside of maybe North Korea just to save a five-figure number of lives and prevent maybe a few million cases. Billions should not have to suffer for a minority.
You're seriously equating getting behind the wheel of a vehicle to becoming a live vector for the spread of a highly contagious, virulent disease? Do you understand that biological pandemics =/= car accidents? No, you probably do, but you've got a narrative to push, so push away.
And what is this totalitarianism? Being told to stay home to slow the spread of a pandemic while effective countermeasures are developed. Well, Sieg Heil, Kamerad. I forget the fuhrer's name though, maybe you can let me know? (20$ you say some variant of "ZOG."
Other than the fact that literally every single major epidemic in history has come to an end by that very mechanism. How do you think the Spanish flu pandemic stopped? It no longer exists because it mutated into literally just the flu!
What happened to Smallpox? Polio? H1N1? Seeing a theme here? I'm not sure you're capable to anymore.
Slowed, not stopped. And the measures are automatically stupid because you can buy a plane ticket to wherever and hang around the airport. So we get months more of agony and people still die. I'm sure grandma appreciates the extra month of fear before she drops dead.
You ever consider that slowing the spread of this virus while effective countermeasures such as pharmaceutical treatments are devloped might just help with the speed that those treatments will have in bringing the pandemic measures to an end? That producing enough of said treatments to Treat 400,000 is easier, faster, and more efficient than having to do the same for 4,000,000? No? Didn't think so.
The death camps are real, they're already prepping facilities and have deployed the National Guard in some places. They're already issuing "essential travel letters" meant to show to the police. They're literally saying "right now it's an honor system" but what happens when people don't give a fuck anymore? What happens when the police call for backup in enforcing this decree?
Even if you're an elderly person you should be more afraid of the insane and inept reaction (or lack thereof when DaQuan arsons your family business for the hell of it and the cops aren't there) of the government than the virus.
Looks like you lost the play again. The police are literally everywhere and they're after you. They're coming for you. They got the National Guard too, with Strykers and sheeeeiiitt. They want your freedoms and your boypucci. They're everywhere and they're coming for you. But they aren't stopping riots and arson? Hm. Seems like we should all just Chimp out and kill each other. No paranoid schizophrenia here. Exactly like the British did when London was getting bombed every fucking day in 1940 and they started slaughtering each other over scraps of bread under martial law-oh wait.
