Worst Language Debate Thread

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VeteranOfTheRetardWars said:
And Latin has the works of Virgil.
I compare Esperanto to Latin because, when we really look at them, they are both trying the same thing but only Latin worked for it. A universal language is dumb, just not gonna work out given how people operate, but Latin is so much closer for a few reasons.
Latin has tons of history, tons of literature, tons of use in scientific circles, and even religious uses. Esperanto is a gay mix of a bunch of bullshit trying to be that. It was never going to catch on because there's nothing to use it for. And even if we use Esperanto as a 'training wheels' language Latin mogs the fuck out of that as well.
Spanish, English, Italian, French, Portuguese, even Romanian, if you have an understanding of Latin you will find those easier to work with. Esperanto literally took all those languages and mixed them together, with none of the good parts that Latin has as a study.
Fuck Esperanto, all my niggas hate Esperanto.
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Esperanto fails at what it does because constructed languages are incredibly obscure and even Esperanto being one of the most well known conlangs doesn't save it. Esperanto's only cultural backing is some nerds begging to be shoved in the toilet speak it. Apparently since it takes from many languages, it's easier to learn than English, but it's offset by the fact that for most people learning a language is incredibly difficult, so no one would want to learn a language no one knows, unless you want to talk to linguists who probably already know languages like english, french, chinese, etc anyway. The reason latin, english, french, and spanish are spoken in so many countries is other people were conquered and their mothers tongue were replaced by the conquerer's tongue, so unless you force all 8 billion people to learn esperanto it's still a sci fi pipe dream made by nerds.
 
Chongqing said:
You're the second person to say Indonesian.

What's wrong with it, exactly?
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It's because it's not even its own proper language. It's a fucked up version of Malay, which itself isn't even its own language because Malay is a jumbled-up mishmash of Sanskrit, Arabic, Chinese, Javanese, Portuguese, Dutch, and English. You could comfortably count all of the words that originated from Proto-Malayo-Polynesian (which is supposed to be the parent language of Malay) in one hand. And—you could say this about other languages—but Indonesians also just don't give two shits about their own language. Proper grammar and diction are enforced only by the government so even basic sentence structure gets worse and worse every passing year. I thought I was weird growing up in a household that spoke half-English half-Indonesian, but nowadays that's actually the norm over here. They call it Campursari and it's fucked up, because teenagers here could start a sentence in broken Indonesian and finish it in broken English and it'll make sense to them. I could go on and on about this but I don't want to get too TMI. Hope that got the point across.
 
Sargon's wife's son said:
finish it sounds like a **** low IQ **** trying to speak Swedish.
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Finnish and Swedish are completely different languages. They’re not even in the same language family. If you want a language that actually sounds like a retard trying to speak Swedish, look no further than Danish.

Anyways, my pick for the worst language is Toki Pona. It’s a conlang like Esperanto, but 10x more faggy and insufferable. Esperanto at the very least has the fact that it’s based on real languages going for it, but Toki Pona is 100% made up gibberish. Only Redditors speak it.
 
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Xhosa, because of the clicking sounds.
 
Saluton!

I don't understand why half the internet isn't speaking Esperanto right now. All the arguments against it are shit. Both Hitler and Stalin hated it, and they died. It seems as based as it gets. I've heard the argument that it can't have a culture or whatever. And I've looked up slurs in Esperanto, of which there are very few.

It's literally a language invented to be easy to learn. The arguments that there is no culture unless it's used are moot if people from multiple cultures just speak it. There is such a lack of slurs in this language that it is just begging for the internet to fill in the blanks. It makes little sense to me that the most succesful manufactured language in history has seen so little headway in its popularity on the internet.
 
Jewthulhu said:
Asian languages are annoying to begin with, but Vietnamese in particular is the worst language I've ever heard.
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North Vietnamese is OK but some accents sound pretty horrific. I think in general it sounds harsh because it has these noises that are otherwise only made retards

Like you can hear Ho Chi Minh speak I don’t think its so bad.
Likewise some singing is alright (but TBH that’s true of any language)
 
For me, the single worst sounding language has got to be Hebrew. I'm not sure why the Hebrew language is so aesthetically displeasing, but I suspect it may have something to do with the number of Hebrew loan words in English that have to do with stuff like demonology; "Beelzebub," which comes from "Ba'al Zabub," for instance.

As a runner-up, maybe the Sino-Tibetan language family, as their tonal, often monosyllabic sound is so alien to me. It's especially rough in the context of music.
 
DoNotFeedTheSneed said:
Anyways, my pick for the worst language is Toki Pona. It’s a conlang like Esperanto, but 10x more faggy and insufferable. Esperanto at the very least has the fact that it’s based on real languages going for it, but Toki Pona is 100% made up gibberish. Only Redditors speak it.
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That would be my pick as well. But Toki Pona goes even deeper than this. Toki Pona is mostly taught on VRchat, which should go a very long way to letting you know just what kind of crowd loves it. Toki Pona has its own writing system which is like something a child came up with and the people that shill the language are on delusional levels of cope where they believe that knowing the language itself makes you a good person or something by making you "think good" or something I don't really know what they're blabbering on about, it's something the creator of the language said once and they all took as gospel unquestioningly.

I've only ever seen mentally ill trannies be into the language and those that got into it that weren't trannies would sooner or later become trannies as well. Toki Pona is just a red flag wherever you see it show up. Some of them are even ideological, like how Rust trannies want every software ever to use Rust, there's some Toki Pona ideologues that think the gay space communism utopia will only happen if everyone knows Toki Pona.

I don't think it's even a contest, it's probably easily the worst language by far not just because of what it is but also because of what the vast majority of its speaker-base is like. I've even seen Toki Pona advocates behave in a condescending way towards anyone learning a real language, comparing the effort of learning a real language as something that drives one to insanity and being glad that they themselves are learning a "sane" language like Toki Pona that isn't so taxing on the brain, yet evidently they're wrong as learning Toki Pona drives them insane because of the mentally ill community that they dive into grooming them.
 
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English, by far. I can't count the number of times I come across a post here that's so badly written I can't begin to tell what it's supposed to mean, and then I scroll down and it's got nothing but agree stickers. And even for native speakers, no one seems to know how to say anything correctly if it's remotely complicated, something about the combination of word-order meaning and more complex subordination and relative clauses; there are times when I'm pretty sure there isn't a grammatically correct way to express something, so we just make malformed sentences and hope people know what we mean. And obviously the orthography's a mess. I don't even mind that so much because if you know how to pronounce a word and how to spell it, that tells you what language we stole it from; but this makes it a terrible choice as a lingua franca. And that's why we get shit like pidgin which is just badly-spoken English taken to its logical conclusion. Which is funny, so pidgin best language, English worst.
 
Stockholm Swedish and probably several surrounding cities, sounds like a faggot trying to imitate an otamatone. It's always hilarious to hear them cosmopolitan Swedish tourists in my area, I'm particularly a fan of the way they pronounce their word for four, "fyra", because it's kind of hard to tell if it's a seagull or some other bird making a really weird noise or an actual ""human"" trying to haggle at a souvenir stand.
 
>ctrl-f "Polish"
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I will just post here some Polish words and names so you can judge for yourself.

Szczęście

Mężczyzna

Grzegorz Braun (the rz is pronounced like s in measure)

Lwow

Wrocław (pronounced like Vrotswuff)

And this is what I could remember in like a minute or two, it looks even worse when you look at whole sentences it's just an endless stream of retarded ass words like above.
 
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