Culture Woke Marvel Eliminates The Punisher Due To "Problematic" Conservative Fan Base - Marvel even brings the Punisher's wife back from the dead, only so that she can divorce him and take his money and property...

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A year ago progressive news outlets were calling the idea of the culture war a “right-wing conspiracy theory” that had no basis in reality. Yet, the injection of far-left politics into entertainment media had already started years previous, with noticeable propaganda efforts in movies, streaming television, children's shows and books, even commercial advertising was replete with progressive ideological imagery by 2016 onward.

The goal is relatively obvious – To erase competing ideals and viewpoints while saturating the market with only one political vision; a woke vision. It's called social engineering, and anyone who claims this is not happening in the US today is gaslighting.

Strangely, the American comic book industry has become a major battleground in the culture war, with heroic symbols being increasingly erased or hijacked as vehicles for woke talking points. A vast array of comic book characters are now race-swapped, converted to LGBT or they have had their histories rewritten to make them more “acceptable for modern audiences.” At the same time, they promote everything from BLM, to climate change propaganda, to gender identity politics and anti-gun messaging.

Why would leftists target something as frivolous as comic book heroes? Because pop-culture is first and foremost a playground where children grow up, and by rewriting heroes as social justice crusaders and communists they hope to indoctrinate the next generation.

However, one hero figure in particular is seen as so egregious and so triggering that leftists want him memory-holed altogether – The Punisher.

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The Punisher character (Frank Castle), originally created by writer Gerry Conway in 1974 with artists Ross Andru and John Romita, was a product of a chaotic era; a reaction to the rise of war, stagflation, instability and exploding crime rates in the US. The Punisher's story is a tragedy of a returning military veteran whose family is killed during what seems to be a gangland hit. With federal agencies doing little to arrest the perpetrators, Castle takes matters into his own hands and begins systematically assassinating the criminals.

The concept of citizen crime stopping and vigilantism was becoming popular in the cultural zeitgeist in the 70s, with many people living in metropolitan areas dealing with increasing criminal violence and unreliable government protection. City governments in places like New York were actively restricting gun rights for law abiding people, which only made things easier for criminals.

The same exact conditions are returning to the US today, and debate is boiling once again on vigilantes (just look at the media fury over Kyle Rittenhouse or Daniel Penny). The mainstream left is adamantly opposed to any form of civilian intervention (unless it's Antifa or BLM), while also being adamantly opposed to any intervention by police. In other words, they want to let criminals run wild and then threaten to prosecute anyone who dares to do anything about it.

The Punisher as an icon has been highly popular among conservatives, military veterans and law enforcement officers in recent years. The trademark skull symbol can be found everywhere, with patches, gear and flags sporting the image, often as a representation of citizens taking matters into their own hands. The symbol was also seen at the January 6th protests.

This has made leftists at Marvel Comics livid. They first attempted to make fundamental changes to the character, including a redesign of his popular skull symbol, as well as taking away his guns and giving him swords in 2021. Instead of fighting against criminal organizations, Frank Castle joins with one, violating his fundamental code of ethics.

This month, though, Marvel officially declared the Punisher persona non grata, eliminating the character as readers know him. Did he go out in a blaze of glory? No, in typical woke fashion Frank Castle is captured by progressive heroes, chained up and forced to go through a struggle session in which he is admonished as a murderer and a terrorist. Marvel even brings the Punisher's wife back from the dead, only so that she can divorce him and take his money and property, and then inform him that his lifelong crusade against the criminal underworld was all for nothing.

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The character then “dies” from apparent suicide but the story is left open to his return, just not as the gun-toting hero people know and love.

Marvel writers, including original Punisher creator Gerry Conway, specifically cite the popularity of the character among conservatives as the reason for his virtual elimination. As Newsweek noted, the Punisher was “problematic” for Marvel because conservatives liked him too much. He represents the every-man: He has no superpowers, he's not a billionaire like Batman, but he still fights evil with an immovable will and a lot of guns.

The co-option and erasure of popular heroes (or anti-heroes) is representative of the disturbing politicization of our times. Much like the Cultural Revolution in China, leftist movements in America are systematically tearing down all opposing beliefs from our cultural catalog, and this includes any positive representations of vigilantism. They openly admit why they are doing it; conservatives aren't allowed to be the good guys. They aren't allowed to have heroes. Meaning, if the Punisher was a leftist icon, Marvel would have no problem with him.

 
I remember when I was a kid my local drug store had spinner racks of pulp for sale, Mack Bolan, Wingman, and the Out of the Ashes books were the mainstays. Also those Deathlands books. The Wingman books were good, goofy fun.
Those Wingman books were some of the worst yet most entertaining trash I have ever read. I need to go find them online.
 
Remebering the time Punisher crossed over with Archie and got to keep all the guns.
 
Wait, what? They, including Marvel leadership, decides to kill off a popular franchise and completely destroy it just because "the wrong people liked it"?

What the fucking hell, you destroy profitable and popular IP just to "own the rightwingers"?
This is insane. Does Marvel not like money?
The Circle of Blood epic collection is literally getting reprinted this Wednesday, so I don't think they're getting rid of the character entirely. He's also go to be in the next Daredevil TV show. They just killed of Kamala Khan too, and she has a movie coming out in the fall. Marvel just likes killing characters because the death issues get them a sales bump.

I think this is probably less of an attempt to spite conservatives (although it might be part of it) and more just Marvel being idiots as usual. They once cancelled Fantastic Four and tried to make Cyclops into Hitler simply because Disney was pissy Fox owned the film rights to Fantastic Four and X-Men. They've managed to piss off all the Spider-Man fans with their nonsense about Mary Jane marrying someone else in another dimension.

If sure if Garth Ennis wanted to write another Punisher miniseries, they'd publish it. But people who work for Marvel don't get paid if their stuff gets used in a movie or tv show, so why would anyone but the most desperate newcomers and people who are using the company as a stepping stone work there anymore? DC doesn't really do creator owned work anymore, but at least the writers and artists get a check if something they created shows up in a Batman movie.
 
I wanna be a Marvel guy in a position of power and do a comic line on Spiderman where Mary Jane troons out and becomes a pooner, divorces him, and calls him a dickless beta nerd who smells bad. She then takes a bit to move out, but Parker has to hear her and his new butch lesbian lover have rough sex every night while he cries from his cuck couch.

The funny thing is, it still wouldn't be as bad as some Spiderman comic lines, like that one where he sold his soul to Satan or whatever or had all those homosexual clones. But that would just be a warm-up to piss off fans.

The ultimate goal? Make a series where Wolverine becomes a MTF and he gets AIDS and slowly dies alone in a hospital room, where he talks about his hidden dream he never had, which was getting buttfucked by Cyclops and the Hulk at the same time. Before he passes away, Professor X uses his powers to make his dream come true.
 
The ultimate goal? Make a series where Wolverine becomes a MTF and he gets AIDS and slowly dies alone in a hospital room, where he talks about his hidden dream he never had, which was getting buttfucked by Cyclops and the Hulk at the same time. Before he passes away, Professor X uses his powers to make his dream come true.
If you've ever read Fire Punch, I'm imagining that segment where Togata (closet pooner with a healing factor) whinges about how she can't get her tits cut off, for twenty straight volumes.
 
There's already a show. It was on Netflix. 1st season was fucking amazing with Bernthal as the Punisher. 2nd season.... Has issues but is mostly good if you can look past some really bad storytelling.

I meant that Disney is bringing it back and it's looking like a Hulu exclusive if the rumors are true. But with this recent news, and in addition to the new DareDevil show (which is also looking to be severely dumbed down in comparison to the Netflix show), it's not looking good.

I know Netflix is shit now and I get that. But The Punisher and DareDevil were two fucking amazing shows. And I say that as someone who has lost all interest in capeshit.
The problem I have with the pedoflix show is that he wasn't doing Punisher things. He was sanitised and turned into generic action hero vs the military gloweys
 
If you've ever read Fire Punch, I'm imagining that segment where Togata (closet pooner with a healing factor) whinges about how she can't get her tits cut off, for twenty straight volumes.
I would call that hilarious if not for how terrible and ham-fisted the writing obviously is.
 
i thought the whole thing with the punisher was that he started out just wanting to get revenge for his wife but then he became obsessed with trying to eliminate all criminals to the point that he felt that other superheros were too soft because they would let the villains they caught stay alive where as the punisher would have just killed them which at least in the comic world made the punisher look like a mad man who while still technically a good guy was going way too far.

it is interesting how so many comics have decided to force you to view things in one set way when there used to be a time where some stuff was left up for you to decide. at this rate i would not be surprised if they decide batman is an awful person as well because he keeps beating up all those very clearly neurodivergent people like the riddler or calandar man.
 
This seems like a relic from zero-percent interest days. I guess we'll see how long they can flail around chasing away profit when the costs are real, and mounting.
 
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