🐱 Why I won’t surrender the classics to the far right

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I am a woman and a classics professor, teaching the ancient texts of Greece and Rome — in other words, works by the original “dead white men.” Some teachers argue that texts once read by elites or used in the service of oppression are morally tainted for that reason. So serious a scholar as Princeton’s Dan-el Padilla Peralta has suggested that the history of these classical works has condemned them to ignominy as instrumental to the invention of “whiteness.”

But I’d suggest that if this is the path we take, we’re in trouble.

The alt-right has no compunction about appropriating antiquity for its own ends — as can be seen images from the Jan. 6 Capitol invasion, as some rioters wore Greek helmets and carried flags with the phrase “molon labe” (“come and get our weapons”). This distorted reference to the Spartan stand against the Persians at Thermopylae in 480 B.C. reflects the supremacist belief that the Spartans saved “the white race” from barbarians.

I don’t want to throw up my hands and yield ancient history and ancient literature to this group.

Yes, historically, many of these texts have been used to justify and support ideologies and actions we condemn today, from defending slavery to suggesting women are lesser creatures than men. Wouldn’t it be better for us to use texts without tainted legacies and not risk seeming to condone the stories’ content or the history of how the texts were used?

That approach ignores a basic fact: Times change, and so does the way we read. In antiquity, Virgil’s “The Aeneid,” an epic poem written in 19 B.C. about the foundation of Rome, was understood as praise of the emperor Augustus. In the Middle Ages, readers took it to be an allegory of the life of the Christian everyman. In the 20th century, Italian fascist leader Benito Mussolini put it to use as a foundational text for the third Roman Empire. During the Vietnam War, the poem was interpreted by antiwar readers as a manifesto against imperialism and warmongering.

Today, the poem can be read as offensive. A Trojan, Aeneas, claiming to be on a divine mission, attacks the native peoples of Italy and wins, eventually leading to the growth of the Roman Empire. What’s here if not a celebration of the West’s hegemonic history?

But a middle path is available between avoiding such works entirely and endorsing a racist and sexist set of values: namely, interpretation. When I read “The Aeneid,” I don’t see an endorsement of colonization. I find in it what I am primed to find as a politically liberal Westerner in the 21st century. I find problems with its “heroic” protagonist and his search for a homeland: Aeneas causes carnage in his “divine” quest to become king; he even sacrifices people alive. I read the poem as a warning about the power of propaganda to veil the abuse of power.

Going back a millennium to ancient Greece, consider Thersites in Homer’s “The Iliad.” He is physically repulsive, “the ugliest man below Ilion.” At an assembly he dares to criticize King Agamemnon. Mostly, he echoes what the heroic Achilles has said earlier (Agamemnon keeps all the good stuff for himself). But Odysseus beats Thersites with a scepter until he collapses. The ruling class has asserted its place.

Or has it? A century ago, readers of “The Iliad” would comment that Odysseus gave the troublemaker just what he deserved. Today, I’d ask: Why does Homer include this voice of blame within the epic at all? What does it mean that the scepter bestowing the right to speak is used as a weapon to silence? What are the social implications of equating ugliness with low social status?

Does it matter what the “right” meaning is? No, because literature doesn’t do things by itself. Wemake meaning with a text, we don’t simply absorb it or somehow get stained by it.

That is why, in his “Pedagogy of the Oppressed,” Brazilian educator Paulo Freire half a century ago suggested that marginalized peoples should reinterpret the same texts that their oppressors use and transform them in their own service. Disconnecting the classics from elite education is entirely possible today: These texts are available in translation to basically anyone with access to the Internet or a library.

What we need to do is “take back the classics.” For millennia, they have been read differently by different cultures. There is no reason they cannot withstand the test of our time, too. We can save the classics, as long as we believe the sins of the father should not be visited upon the sons and daughters.
 
Another classical liberal that doesn't quite get it and thinks she can use reason with the social justice mob. Many such cases. Sad!
 
That approach ignores a basic fact: Times change, and so does the way we read.
I prefer to read things in as close to the context in which the author wrote his material.
That is why, in his “Pedagogy of the Oppressed,” Brazilian educator Paulo Freire half a century ago suggested that marginalized peoples should reinterpret the same texts that their oppressors use and transform them in their own service.
A communist, like the virus he is, proposing subversion of the host culture to the party's ends? Must have been a day ending in 'y.'
 
This dumbass does know that most classical literature was written with as conservative message as you can possibly get, right? Even "progressive" novels from these periods of time would be considered far right in our day and age.
 
And into the trash it goes.

It's not the far right that you need to be concerned about but the leftists who want to destroy the past.
Another classical liberal that doesn't quite get it and thinks she can use reason with the social justice mob. Many such cases. Sad!
They won't see what they have wrought until they see the book burnings firsthand.

Even then, they'll go to the guillotines insisting the ones flying the sickle-and-hammer chanting "Death to America" were acktchually white supremacists false-flagging to make the Mostly Peaceful Left look bad.
 

I can't believe this isn't the same article. Wow. I was thinking this was a repost, but these articles are different. The above was written by a man.
Its because these aren't just random ideas from random people. Its an organized belief system that they confer with one another about, develop new ideas and perspectives and agree to a standard mindset.
All of the articles posted on A&N (or nearly all) don't represent the author, but a massive chunk of the left.
 
So you spend decades vilifying and denigrating the classics, teaching multiple generations that there's nothing important there because they were all written by straight white men, and now that there's nobody on your side that wants to bother with them, you're surprised to find that your ideological opposites are the only ones interested anymore?

What did you fucking expect was going to happen?
 
the poem can be read as offensive

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They're classics because they still stand despite the fickle bullshit of changing tastes and social mores. They'll be discussing Homer and Catullus when both sides of the current culture war have long been reduced to dust.

Sort of related, Critical Drinker talking about the idea of people trying to tear things (specifically heroes) down. Second half is surprisingly moving.
 
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This dumbass does know that most classical literature was written with as conservative message as you can possibly get, right? Even "progressive" novels from these periods of time would be considered far right in our day and age.
I looks like they're aware but they want to retroactively change the message by reading the texts in the light of modern progressivism rather than their cultural context. If you're a leftist why even become a classics professor in the first place? All that's going to happen is you get bombarded with reminders that the greatest minds in western culture all think your current political positions are stupid.
 
I own Birth of a Nation and nobody else can have it
Not that I think she wants it anyways
 
Ancient Greece and Rome... Author does realize that these arent "straight white men" shes talking about, but rather "brown skinned; boy fuckers", right?
 
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