War Why ghost guns are America's fastest-growing gun problem

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The article includes a video with the reporter, Nada Tawfik.
This is the thumbnail for the article as seen elsewhere on BBC, not included in the body of the article. Something about it got my attention:

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April 13, 2023

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Watch: Nada Tawfik holds a ghost gun

By Nada Tawfik
BBC News, New York

Ghost guns are coming under fire from gun-control advocates. But why are these weapons so difficult to trace? And can anything be done to keep them from getting into the wrong hands?

Manuel Yambo had never heard of a "ghost" gun until his 16-year-old daughter was killed by one.

He was at home, getting ready for work, when he got a call that every parent dreads. His daughter Angellyh had been hit by a stray bullet near her school. Before he could get to the hospital, another call came in: She was dead. He didn't believe it until he saw her for himself.

It was just a few months ago that Angellyh was celebrating her sixteenth birthday, dancing with her father wearing a pink gown and a crown.

"Angellyh, she was funny, she came out like me," Mr Yambo remembers.

Officials told him the 17-year-old suspect used a ghost gun, which is a privately made firearm that is unregistered and untraceable. Nowadays, anyone with access to the internet can buy the parts needed to make a gun without a background check. Tutorials online explain how to assemble the pieces into a fully functioning firearm with just basic tools in less than an hour.

"I was just in shock how easy it was to get it," Mr Yambo told the BBC. "You would think things like that, you can't just order it online as if it was a toy."

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Angellyh had just turned 16 when she was killed by a ghost gun, her father Manuel Yambo says

Experts are calling ghost guns the fastest-growing gun safety problem in America. The number of ghost guns recovered from crime scenes by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), has risen by more than 1,000% since 2017.

In New York City, where Mr Yambo lives, the NYPD seized the first ghost gun back in 2018, recovering 17 in total that year. In 2019, it was 50. By 2020, the number was 150. And then in 2021, it was up to 275.

At the ATF's National Integrated Ballistic Information Network facility in Washington, DC, ballistic evidence is evaluated and matched to crime scenes from across the country. But without serial numbers on the gun frames, it is virtually impossible to trace ghost guns and track down dealers who are selling guns illegally to minors or to people without proper firearm licenses.

"Pretty much anyone can get these ghost guns and order parts and make a gun that's just as well as the guns we carry," ATF officer Jerome McClinton told the BBC.

Last August, new regulations introduced by the Biden administration came into effect that say key products used to make ghost guns qualify as traditional firearms, and thus must include serial numbers. Those components include commonly sold, pre-packaged ghost gun kits that are easily converted into firearms, as well as functional "frames" or "receivers".

"This rule will make it harder for criminals and other prohibited persons to obtain untraceable guns," said Attorney General Merrick Garland at the time. "It will help to ensure that law enforcement officers can retrieve the information they need to solve crimes. And it will help reduce the number of untraceable firearms flooding our communities."

There are also bans on ghost guns in about a dozen states. But David Pucino, the deputy chief counsel at the Giffords Law Center, a gun-control advocacy group, said the new regulations aren't comprehensive enough because they don't cover all parts that can be used to make a ghost gun, such as some "unfinished" frames or receivers. He also said that without a national framework, gun traffickers can simply move ghost guns from states where they are legal to states where they are banned.

In October, a group of senators asked the ATF to provide a report on enforcement of the law, but the agency has told Congress it is worried more robust action would lose in court, after several rulings by the Supreme Court affirming the Second Amendment broadly protects gun owners from restrictions.

Ghost guns are also becoming an international problem, even in countries with tight restrictions on weapons. Some are being trafficked out of the United States, such as gun parts that are shipped directly to Mexico, where there is fear they could be used by cartels. In Western Europe, 3D printers have been used to make ghost guns, Mr Pucino said.

The ATF has cautioned that America's ghost gun trend could take off abroad.

"I would say that if ghost guns has not been an issue for those other countries, then it's probably going to be eventually," said ATF Special Agent in Charge Charlie Patterson.

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New York officials have made cracking down on illegal ghost guns a priority

The growing proliferation of ghost guns has inevitably led to closer scrutiny of the various manufacturers. In 2022, New York's attorney general sued several online retailers for allegedly selling illegal unfinished and unserialised frames and receivers. This January, a New York court granted an injunction in that lawsuit, effectively pulling ghost guns from the market in the state.

Polymer80, the largest ghost-gun manufacturer in the US, has been the subject of much of the ire from lawmakers across the country.

In addition, Washington, DC, won a $4m (£3.2m) judgment against the company for violating consumer protection laws by falsely claiming that its weapons are legal in the District and for selling illegal guns to DC consumers.

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Ghost gun manufacturer Polymer80 says ghost guns are not to blame for gun deaths

But Loran Kelly, the co-founder of Polymer80, called the concerns over ghost guns a "myth," and a "divisive non-issue". He is appealing the DC ruling, and said other lawsuits are frivolous. He also secured a victory in Nevada, where his company is based, when a judge struck down parts of the state's ghost gun ban, calling them "unconstitutionally vague".

Mr Kelly argued that ghost guns make up a small fraction of the total number of weapons recovered by law enforcement. In 2021, the ATF recovered 460,024 guns, compared to 19,273 ghost guns.

While Mr Kelly said he felt for Angellyh's family, he was personally against any government regulation of firearms based on his interpretation of the Second Amendment right to bear arms.

He dismissed statistics, such as those that show firearms are the leading cause of death for American children and teens, as missing the point.

"People need to separate in their minds violence and guns," he said.

"If we have troubled kids or we have people who feel disenfranchised in this country, which we do in spades, that's the source of this (violence)."

It's a distinction Angellyh's family does not make - Mr Yambo blamed the manufacturers for her death, and is starting a foundation to help those affected by gun violence.

"Who were these guns made for? Why were they sold in parts - in order to avoid being detected by the Department of Justice and the ATF?" he asked.
 
But actual guns are legal tho.

This is just rage from people who fantasize about disarming everyone eventually. I love that firearms could be available (legally or illegally) someday in even shithole countries where they're formally banned. Authoritarians scurred.
 
Ghost guns are also becoming an international problem, even in countries with tight restrictions on weapons. Some are being trafficked out of the United States, such as gun parts that are shipped directly to Mexico, where there is fear they could be used by cartels.
Oh shit, the cartels (who are more powerful than the state in certain locations) are going to start using illegal guns in their criminal enterprises? We are so fucked.
 
Ok but what are you going to do about it? Register EVERY gun part in the country? Holy fuck these people are stupid, I can't wait for 3d printing to make gun control obsolete. Fighting against unregistered firearms is an uphill battle that politicians are going to lose. Technology improves with time, get over it and learn to accept you will never disarm the population.
 
Is this another "ghost guns are the same as guns with the serial numbers filed off" article?
 
This is the thumbnail for the article as seen elsewhere on BBC, not included in the body of the article.
The BBC does this shit a lot: stick a provocative, even racy pun or photo in the thumbnail that can't be easily archived and isn't there on the article page proper.

Cracking down on home machining is dumb and infeasible. Ammunition control (esp. primers) and pressure-bearing part serialization are what actually work, since these are the hardest to DIY. Still doable but much harder and a serious deterrent for non-autists.
 
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Here we go again with 'ghost guns'. Reality is, people will find ways to kill each other. The real challenge is trying to make a society where people are LESS LIKELY to want to murder each other. But to admit why people are more likely to do so would be undoing the lie of infinnimigration and diversity being a good thing.

Ok but what are you going to do about it? Register EVERY gun part in the country? Holy fuck these people are stupid, I can't wait for 3d printing to make gun control obsolete. Fighting against unregistered firearms is an uphill battle that politicians are going to lose. Technology improves with time, get over it and learn to accept you will never disarm the population.

And people will simply get creative in how they kill people. Bongistan may have banned knives and guns, but the muzzies as an answer resorted to cars, shanks, grenades and acid as an answer.
 
From the STEN, to the Luty, to the Liberator, to the FGC9.....

Homemade SMGs and carbines have been around since forever.

With every advancement in information technology and consumer grade milling and 3D printing, the nails are being driven into the coffin of gun control.

It's glorious.
 
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And people will simply get creative in how they kill people. Bongistan may have banned knives and guns, but the muzzies as an answer resorted to cars, shanks, grenades and acid as an answer.
You can stab someone with the point of a pen or pencil. May as well close down schools and bring everything back to charcoal drawings. Oh wait, you can shove that down someone's throat too. Screwdrivers may not be a good option, but you can stab someone with it if you thrust hard enough. Anything glass or hard plastic? Hammer it against something hard and use the shards as shivs. The little kid chairs are weirdly good blunt instruments. Intruders can throw them against the window and use their shards as shivs too. You can beat someone to death with your bare hands. Should we amputate them to keep kids safe?
there are so many ways for people to kill each other, holy shit
 
Niggers are Americas fastest growing gun problem. We don't have a gun problem. We have a nigger problem. They are using the nigger gun violence to pad gun crime statistics so they can disarm all the people in the suburb's counties and rural areas.

That white guy in suburb that has a gun for protection. Some niggers broke into his house and stole it while he was away on vacation. They sold it to another nigger who used it to kill some other nigger in the city. Do you know who is to blame? The white guy in the suburbs and the gun of course. If he didn't own a gun that nigger would have never killed that other nigger.

That's the line of thinking you are seeing.

Now give up your guns. You don't want to be racist, do you?
 
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You can stab someone with the point of a pen or pencil. May as well close down schools and bring everything back to charcoal drawings. Oh wait, you can shove that down someone's throat too. Screwdrivers may not be a good option, but you can stab someone with it if you thrust hard enough. Anything glass or hard plastic? Hammer it against something hard and use the shards as shivs. The little kid chairs are weirdly good blunt instruments. Intruders can throw them against the window and use their shards as shivs too. You can beat someone to death with your bare hands. Should we amputate them to keep kids safe?
there are so many ways for people to kill each other, holy shit
Whoa, now. Those all sound like assault weapons...
 
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