Opinion Why eggs are cheaper than you think - "If you can’t help cringing when you see the cashier ring up eggs that cost twice as much as they did a year ago our ancestors would have taken one look at your grocery cart and declared you rich beyond their dreams."

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“Everyone in the U.S. seems obsessed with eggs right now,” my British editor told me. “It’s so bizarre.”

Indeed we are. The soaring price of eggs has given rise to internet memes and a fair amount of conspiracizing — including from a U.S. senator — about monopolistic egg producers colluding to raid the pockets of hard-working, egg-loving Americans.

The truth is that U.S. egg production is still recovering from a bout of avian flu that has devastated flocks in the United States and Europe. And while activists and senators are puzzled by how a 29 percent decline in egg production can lead to a much larger increase in the price of eggs, agricultural economist Jayson Lusk says that’s exactly what you would expect with a product for which demand is relatively insensitive to price changes. Americans do love eggs — we consume an average of 277 per person, per year — and, unfortunately, eggs don’t have a lot of close substitutes. If the price of meat rises, you can downgrade from steak to ground round, but when the price of eggs goes up, well, most people don’t want to make do with a yogurt omelet or toss a block of tofu into their cake in lieu of egg whites.

This inelasticity explains why the price of eggs has spiked so much — from $1.79 in December 2021, to $4.25 a year later — and also why we’ve noticed: We’re buying a lot of pricey eggs, and we resent it. The good news is that flocks are recovering, and the price of eggs has already begun to decline. In the meantime, it might help to contemplate that as expensive as they are, eggs are still really cheap, historically speaking.

If you look at old cookbooks, you will notice that the authors seem to view eggs and chicken as almost a luxury good. My 1950 “Betty Crocker’s Picture Cook book” contains recipes for making mock chicken dishes — out of veal. Go back further and the 1896 Fannie Farmer cookbook sternly informs readers that, “eggs, even at twenty-five cents per dozen, should not be freely used by the strict economist.” An odd assertion to the modern ear, until you realize that in 1896 a pound of round steak was about 35 percent cheaper than a pound of eggs. (Today, by contrast, a pound of eggs — about 9 eggs — would cost you roughly $3.21 at my grocery store, while a pound of round steak is $8.69.)

our incomes, to spend on something else. And that has happened even as our food consumption has shifted toward things that would have been luxuries back then. People eat berries out of season, fresh seafood even far inland … and the average person eats about six times as much chicken as they would have a century ago.

Which brings us to the relative price shift. Almost all food items have gotten much cheaper, relative to our incomes, than they were a century ago. But some food prices fell faster than others, and chicken and eggs were among those that saw the greatest improvements, thanks to a combination of agricultural innovations. Raising chickens indoors helped protect them from disease and predators. Providing them with warmer conditions and artificial light helped extend a laying season which otherwise stops in winter. Farmers developed the raised cage system which has helped increase egg production, as have breeding programs. Modern hens have gone from laying about 150 eggs per hen per year in the 1930s, to 296 today.

These advances haven’t come without cost. Modern farming techniques can raise serious concerns about animal welfare, and I make a point of buying cage free eggs which carry the label of the Humane Farm Animal Care’s “Certified Humane” program. And, of course, the antibiotics we use to keep commercially farmed animals healthy might be contributing to antibiotic resistance.

But the benefits of this revolution have also been enormous. In 1905, an average male factory worker older than 16 took home $11.16 a week, enough to buy about 41 cartons of eggs. Today, the median man earns $1,176 a week, enough to buy more than 275 cartons of eggs, even at today’s elevated prices. If you can’t help cringing when you see the cashier ring up eggs that cost twice as much as they did a year ago, it might help to remember that however poor you feel, your ancestors would have taken one look at your grocery cart and declared you rich beyond their dreams.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/02/07/egg-prices-history-relative-economics/ (Archive)
 

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70+ years ago grocery store eggs were expensive because nobody bought eggs at grocery stores, they just sent their kids out to the chicken coop each morning to gather the eggs. Little demand tends to lead to higher costs. Same thing happens with ears of corn, tomatoes, and anything else people regularly grow on their own.

The one good thing about the Wuhan pandemic and the recent food increases is that everyone is finally starting to raise chickens in their backyards again. My area most people already plant gardens, but even that's become more commonplace. You still can't find any good mason jars and lids because everyone is canning food these days. It's forcing me to either buy a new freezer or a freeze-dryer later this year.
 
Did you need to egg him on?

Oh, quit your clucking, you mother hen.

You act like they ever quit eating beans on toast and other wartime necessities in lieu of things like food. Its why whenever they eat curry their bowels undergo a Blitz of their own.

Weird city people in... 1923? They did have home fridges back then, even if they cost you more than a Model T.
refrigerated eggs are a weird american invention. 1923 is just about the time 50% of the US was urban vs rural, and even that "urban" would have had a bunch of backyard chickens
 
70+ years ago grocery store eggs were expensive because nobody bought eggs at grocery stores, they just sent their kids out to the chicken coop each morning to gather the eggs. Little demand tends to lead to higher costs. Same thing happens with ears of corn, tomatoes, and anything else people regularly grow on their own.

The one good thing about the Wuhan pandemic and the recent food increases is that everyone is finally starting to raise chickens in their backyards again. My area most people already plant gardens, but even that's become more commonplace. You still can't find any good mason jars and lids because everyone is canning food these days. It's forcing me to either buy a new freezer or a freeze-dryer later this year.

OK, but we need to be honest about this.

The reason people stopped keeping backyard animals wasn't the fucking WEF.

it's that having animals living in proximity to people when both are in suburban/urban densities spreads disease.

It's all fine when one or two homes on a block have chickens. That doesn't create a scenario where disease spread is inevitable. But if everyone...even half...of a neighborhood gets chickens, and the same happens in half or more of the adjoining neighborhoods...suddenly you have situations where the government is going to need to go around rounding up chickens to cull from residential areas, the way they have to do it now in agricultural ones.
 
Yes, we know that food is still cheap and plentiful compared to how it was for the vast majority of human history. Let's keep it that way. When food was a lot more scarce humans were generally smaller and weaker than they are now, and the overall mortality rate was much higher. Lifespans were much lower.
 
Why would it be capitalism's fault? As far as I know all the eggs are made here. I don't know who the workers are. I bet they are illegal aliens. You could blame capitalism for that,
They might as well just STFU and leave poor people alone. They are going to eat what they can afford and that's going to be a lot of unhealthy stuff. Obesity is an economic issue. As capitalism continues to fail and the US economy continues to decline peoples eating habits are going to get even more unhealthy. Fresh fruits and veggies aren't cheap. Matter of fact nothing in the grocery store isn't cheap. I know because I just got back from one. 4 bags for $105. I can eat out cheaper than that.
You diversity hire glowies really suck at this stuff.
 
Here s peters take on the eggs


I would say this is a pure supply chain issue flock got culled, takes time for new hens to come on line.

meanwhile we get stupid shit like this
 
Here s peters take on the eggs

https://youtube.com/watch?v=8eT5jNpo5bQ:218
I would say this is a pure supply chain issue flock got culled, takes time for new hens to come on line.

meanwhile we get stupid shit like this
So is this guy just getting recommended to everyone all of a sudden? He's some old CIA glowie who two months ago was predicting Ukraine would take back Crimea by New Years or something similarly absurd, and now I'm seeing his name come up repeatedly in the last week out of nowhere.

It's just weird, is all. He might be right about the egg situation, doesn't seem all that complicated to me.
 
So is this guy just getting recommended to everyone all of a sudden? He's some old CIA glowie who two months ago was predicting Ukraine would take back Crimea by New Years or something similarly absurd, and now I'm seeing his name come up repeatedly in the last week out of nowhere.

It's just weird, is all. He might be right about the egg situation, doesn't seem all that complicated to me.
in regards to peter. He looked at his career options in DC saw what a crab bucket it was and worked for stratford as a generalist. For the last year he has been zipping around and promoting himself and doing rather well.

He didnt come out of now where and his takes are rather old but here he is in kern county, CA talking about oil.
NOTE THIS WAS 7 YEARS AGO

at the 38 minutes mark he talks about the russian/ukrain problems. So 7 years ago this guys was explaining certain issues

Here he is in Iowa talking about brazil, russian fertilizer, and china port riots



I personally perfer long form shit but his 8 minute a day phone recorded videos work.

And i tend to agree with him, that what we call globalization was built as a security bribe to fight the USSR and 30 years after the USSR fell america is leaning toward just sasying fuck it.

American trading with mexico and canada doesnt really need the global market other countries not so much.

I love his take on how the irains who view themselves as persions and saudi's who are arab are just rooting to have nice little war
 
The other reason eggs were that expensive that long ago is really simple.

No refrigerated shipping.

Fuck, I hate how they just look at the prices and compare prices with no other metric.

"IN 1852 BLACK PEOPLE WERE ONLY $500! NOW YOU CAN'T BUY ONE! THAT MEANS THAT BLACK PEOPLE ARE INFINITELY MORE VALUABLE THAN THEY ONCE WERE! TAKE THAT!"
 
Went to the commissary today. Jumbo eggs were $5.90/dozen. There was an adequate supply. Noticed very short supplies of the less-expensive eggs. Got two cartons.

Needed some yogurt. Favorite Yoplait yogurt was 35 cents/cup. There was a coupon for $1 off five cups. Bought five cups, making effective price 15 cents each.

Also went to Costco, got two pounds Chilean cherries for $10.99. Sure hope they will start producing cherry pies soon. Standing invitation to gluttony.
 
The other reason eggs were that expensive that long ago is really simple.

No refrigerated shipping.

Fuck, I hate how they just look at the prices and compare prices with no other metric.

"IN 1852 BLACK PEOPLE WERE ONLY $500! NOW YOU CAN'T BUY ONE! THAT MEANS THAT BLACK PEOPLE ARE INFINITELY MORE VALUABLE THAN THEY ONCE WERE! TAKE THAT!"
Back in the day you could buy a black guy for $500, these days they cost several million and they call it an NBA/NFL/record label contract, and they don't even come properly seasoned and docile, and have a habit of killing each other, oding or ending up in jail before you get your moneys worth

and they say inflation for eggs is bad
 
Weird city people in... 1923? They did have home fridges back then, even if they cost you more than a Model T.
Refrigerating eggs also isn't common in many parts of the world so they probably didn't even do so at the time. That's more driven by regulations and extending the shelf life.

NYC's population was nearly 6 million people by then, for reference.
 
Refrigerating eggs also isn't common in many parts of the world so they probably didn't even do so at the time. That's more driven by regulations and extending the shelf life.

NYC's population was nearly 6 million people by then, for reference.
Yeah, and it was still an overcrowded shithole. NY state itself only had 10.3 million in the 1920 census and and NYC was 5.6 of those million. Illinois was 6.4 million and 2.7 of them were in Chicago. When the "weird city people" make up over a third of your state's population they're not exactly an outlier.
 
How do the people who write this shit sleep at night?

Edit: I actually bought an 18 pack of eggs on sale for $4.35 and a dozen for $1.99 at Acme.

Boy, I remember 3 or 4 years ago when $1.99 for a dozen of eggs was a high price.
 
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