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They used to burn witches at the stake, now we cant be mistaken on pronouns, really?
Aint this the most bitching generation?
Aint this the most bitching generation?
Why does society gain more morality values as time progresses?
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No, because at some point there is something akin to diminishing returns, where play-pretend concern for morals and ethics is simply virtue signaling, reverting back slightly the overall morality of the group.
E.g: you now care so much about (insert group) that you'll give them privileges over others, essentially reverting back to a similar situation as before, but with the roles changed.
E.g: you now care so much about (insert group) that you'll give them privileges over others, essentially reverting back to a similar situation as before, but with the roles changed.
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I think joe rogan knows something about this 
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Awww thats cuteI think joe rogan knows something about this
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It doesn't, in the general moral sense. Virtue and how strictly it is enforced is a pendulum, or a cycle, or a 4 generation wave, however you want to describe it. Go back 50-60 years ago and you'd be asking why society loses morality values as the post-war order was being deconstructed.
If you mean a slow numerical accumulation of "total things to think about", that's a time function of socializing, really. One person alone doesn't think about interpersonal issues. Two people have to consider each other, three have to consider group dynamics, 10 have to consider factions, 100 have to consider sub-cultures and how to treat them, etc. Keep any of those social groups running for years, and the list of conflicts and considerations will just keep accumulating.
That also compounds when you change their living arrangements, either because of technology or population size. 100 people living in a village are less tightly coupled than 100 people living in an apartment building. The closer you are forced together, the more interactions you have with others, the more concerns will be raised. The threshold for you doing something (or not doing something) affecting a neighbor decrease, and the effects increase. The rules, conventions, and considerations needed to guide those interactions necessarily increase.
If you mean a slow numerical accumulation of "total things to think about", that's a time function of socializing, really. One person alone doesn't think about interpersonal issues. Two people have to consider each other, three have to consider group dynamics, 10 have to consider factions, 100 have to consider sub-cultures and how to treat them, etc. Keep any of those social groups running for years, and the list of conflicts and considerations will just keep accumulating.
That also compounds when you change their living arrangements, either because of technology or population size. 100 people living in a village are less tightly coupled than 100 people living in an apartment building. The closer you are forced together, the more interactions you have with others, the more concerns will be raised. The threshold for you doing something (or not doing something) affecting a neighbor decrease, and the effects increase. The rules, conventions, and considerations needed to guide those interactions necessarily increase.
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While we can go in circles about what counts as morals and what doesn't, society gains more rules when it is allowed to build up over time. Somalia is a lawless place because there's no police, just another militia gang. There were laws at some point, but not anymore. Laws in societies tend to build on top of each other as a society builds on top of itself. You don't have laws on animal rights in certain areas because you can't be bothered to think about how someone is treating their cows when you're all relying on them to provide their share for the winter. When you build a society where many people have cows and enough time to observe how other people treat their cows, then you can start making laws on not hitting cows and shit.
Sometimes laws aren't made because our brains are stuck on survival mode. Sometimes laws aren't made until a big consequence happens, and a society has to make some laws so they don't do that shit again. Sometimes it comes from knowledge, observation, and even a bit of lobbying to get people aware of a problem. Sometimes you have to focus on people being thieves and passing laws on that before you even THINK about passing laws on parking.
TL; DR: When you got nothing but mud for your society, you can't do shit but focus on how to survive. The more built up a society gets, the more they can focus on minor things instead of big things alone.
Sometimes laws aren't made because our brains are stuck on survival mode. Sometimes laws aren't made until a big consequence happens, and a society has to make some laws so they don't do that shit again. Sometimes it comes from knowledge, observation, and even a bit of lobbying to get people aware of a problem. Sometimes you have to focus on people being thieves and passing laws on that before you even THINK about passing laws on parking.
TL; DR: When you got nothing but mud for your society, you can't do shit but focus on how to survive. The more built up a society gets, the more they can focus on minor things instead of big things alone.