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Lone Wandering Courier

Lone Wandering Courier

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Why is it that catholic larpers on the internet just can't accept on your word the only reason you aren't religious is simply a lack of empirical evidence. They always have to spin it back on you and make it about how "oh you just hate god" (how does one hate something one doesn't believe exists lmao) or "you only say that because you are an evil do-er"? Like, no I just don't see any evidence and never have.

Why are they like this? (besides the fact they live in mommy's basement listening to nigger music and eating mcdonalds tendies)
 
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Big Green said:
When a person is operating on faith there is literally nothing you can say to break through that. It's the same with a lot of shit nowadays.
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True but then again I don't really try to convert anybody away from religion, I just maintain people shouldn't have to be forced into religion because all you'd get is people lying about being part of a religion when they really aren't. And I myself believe honesty is better than lying.
 
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Lone Wandering Courier said:
True but then again I don't really try to convert anybody away from religion
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I'm the same for the most part. I think religion is a very positive influence on people as a whole even though I've never been part of one myself. In fact I think you can point to the decline of religion as the main reason people started cutting off their dicks.

Going back to the original question, I'd bet christians deal with so many spergs telling them god's not real that they're just ready to fight about it at any time.
 
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I can't speak for Catholics specifically, but it's interesting that you bring up empirical evidence (assume it was a typo). The thing about historical events is that you can't use empirical evidence to verify the truth or falsehood of them.

Empiricism at its core is nothing more than pattern recognition across space-time. It's a very useful tool for developing understanding of what is likely to happen in the immediate future as a consequence of an action, for example, but as soon as you have multiple possibilities of a historical event which line up with all available evidence, empiricism is utterly lost.

That's why there is more than one type of truth, unless you want to forgo acknowledgement of anything which happened in the past.

If current modern understanding of astrophysics is correct, then at some point billions of years into the future, space will be expanding fast enough that light travelling from anywhere outside the milky way/andromeda galaxies will never reach them. At this point our hypothetical empirical scientists will look to the outside universe and see no indication of change. Their empirical evidence will tell them that the universe is in fact static, not expanding. If they hypothetically found a modern human account of history talking about 'the big bang' they would have all empirical reason to disregard it.

Just some food for thought.
 
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Smug said:
I can't speak for Catholics specifically, but it's interesting that you bring up empirical evidence (assume it was a typo). The thing about historical events is that you can't use empirical evidence to verify the truth or falsehood of them.

That's why there is more than one type of truth, unless you want to forgo acknowledgement of anything which happened in the past.
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Well I actually I meant a lack of physical proof, my bad. But the way I see things is there can only be one kind of truth and that is THE truth. And the truth is, nothing that any of these religions say is backed up by any actual facts or evidence. Meanwhile, we have fossils that alone disprove their creation myths. We have determined that the earth is billions of years old among other things showing how the world was (probably) like before humanity. I recognize many early scientists were christians, but that doesn't change the fact that scientific discoveries have effectively disproven religions
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Lone Wandering Courier said:
Well I actually I meant a lack of physical proof, my bad. But the way I see things is there can only be one kind of truth and that is THE truth. And the truth is, nothing that any of these religions say is backed up by any actual facts or evidence. Meanwhile, we have fossils that alone disprove their creation myths. We have determined that the earth is billions of years old among other things showing how the world was (probably) like before humanity. I recognize many early scientists were christians, but that doesn't change the fact that scientific discoveries have effectively disproven religions
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There is nothing science can observe that can disprove Christianity and it's sects because everything can be retorted with "God planned it that way" and "Humans are God's chosen" or something. Stop being a dumb faggot and just utilize Pascal's Wager.
 
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Crystal Coomer said:
There is nothing science can observe that can disprove Christianity and it's sects because everything can be retorted with "God planned it that way" and "Humans are God's chosen" or something. Stop being a dumb faggot and just utilize Pascal's Wager.
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How would I utilize Pascals wager if I genuinely don't believe in God? If I lie about believing in him God is just gonna send me to hell anyway.
 
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Postal_Rat said:
Pascal's answer to that was that if you lived your life like God was real you would genuinely come to believe.
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The problem is I read the Bible and a lot the stories in it just straight up don't make any sense to me. I can't make myself believe in senseless things. The only way to make me live a Christian life would be to force me, which would make me false Christian. So I'm just doomed to go to hell I guess.
 
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They think they're saving your soul from eternal damnation, because eternity is all that matters and life is just a test to determine your eternity. The brilliance of that scam is, a near death experience will make you trip balls imagining the afterlife you were raised to believe in, but someone who dies all the way can't tell you there's nothing after that. By making only non-disprovable claims (and adjusting their beliefs slightly over time when some of them are empirically disproven, like geocentrism) and placing the burden of proof on the deniers, they shield their faith from facts quite effectively. They also think they're doing the right thing by trying to convince you to worship a schizophrenic kike who does magic tricks, because what could be more moral than that?

P.S., Pascal was a retard. Do you want to end up in viking Hel for not worshiping Thor, or sent to Tartarus because Zeus thinks Jesus is a pussy? If it's "safer" to believe in Christianity just in case it's right, all other religions should be believed in by default as well. That violates the Ten Commandments, because Yahweh is very insecure and throws more temper tantrums than a menstruating teen. Makes more sense to me to choose none rather than all.
 
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Lone Wandering Courier said:
Well I actually I meant a lack of physical proof, my bad. But the way I see things is there can only be one kind of truth and that is THE truth. And the truth is, nothing that any of these religions say is backed up by any actual facts or evidence.
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That's not true. I just need to make a single claim that any religion says something which is backed up by facts or evidence to disprove that retarded assertion. I think that's not what you meant, but c'mon. Don't make it so easy.

Lone Wandering Courier said:
We have fossils that alone disprove their creation myths. We have determined that the earth is billions of years old among other things showing how the world was (probably) like before humanity.
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Here's a random kinda-related 4chan screenshot that I find amusing.
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Lone Wandering Courier said:
I recognize many early scientists were christians, but that doesn't change the fact that scientific discoveries have effectively disproven religions
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The very nature of peer-reviewed research has unfortunately thrown the credibility of 'scientific discoveries' into disarray recently. Don't get me wrong: I'm all for new scientific discoveries. However, in increasingly many fields the social-media nature of how certain peer reviewed articles gain more repute than others is making it increasingly difficult to discern what is even 'scientifically true', let alone actually true. If you don't understand what I'm getting at, peer-review in academia has more and more become a 'you reference me and I'll reference you back' kinda deal, to the detriment of most.

I remember seeing a few seemingly intelligent atheists in the early days of youtube going around 'owning the Christians with facts and logic', and almost every single one of the ones who stuck around are now incapable of even telling you what a man or woman is. That includes such former big names as AronRa and Matt Dillahunty.
 
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Most people who aggressively make a point to let people know they are an atheist online are people like OrsonZedd, who become increasingly insufferable and smug over time, getting all triggered and butthurt over the name of Jesus Christ despite claiming to not believe in Him.

Look, we even have an emoticon for those people: :neckbeard:
 
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I too remember my younger years when it felt like everything I was figuring out was ground breaking and people needed to know. How could they not?

Nobody gives a shit. It's not a fight worth fighting for. It does not yield any productive results. People have different opinions, and religious opinion are deeply rooted. You don't change them with discussion, they can only change with perspective.

A believer might change their mind after something horrible happens to them, and they start to get cynical about everything and everybody.

A non believer may become a believer after they feel like, they, or a close relative was "saved". This is also something that occurs from trauma.

Keep it for your drunken discussion with your friends on a summer night after a mad party.
 
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