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After the groundbreaking dating app where women can red-flag men who have lied about their status or are abusive was targeted in a devastating data breach, Olivia Petter fears that such well-intentioned platforms may be causing more problems than they solve


Say you meet a man: single, charming, intelligent, all his own teeth sort of thing. Then jitters kick in, and you find yourself wondering if he is as perfect as he seems.

You go through all the usual channels: Google, LinkedIn, Instagram – possibly even ChatGPT – to see what you can find. His digital footprint is clean, but something still seems... a little off.

Maybe it’s the way he speaks so vaguely about his childhood, or makes subtle, persistent digs at an ex-girlfriend that even your tireless investigative work hasn’t been able to find online.

This is where the Tea dating app comes in. Launched in 2023, the US-based platform allows women to share safety information and “spill the tea” about men they are considering dating.

So, in theory, you could meet a man, look him up on the app, and discover that he’s married, has a criminal record, or is a potential catfish. Marketing itself as “the largest women’s group chat in the US”, Tea lets users “review” single men in the hope of ensuring safe dating for heterosexual women everywhere. It’s popular, too, with 1.6 million users to date.

Unfortunately, what seemed like a long-awaited, even vital, tool has been attacked.

Last week, Tea announced that it had been hacked in a suspected misogynistic backlash, exposing around 72,000 images, including the photo identification of its users. Tea later updated users that some of their direct messages (DMs) had also been accessed by hackers. It has since turned off its messaging functionality, and says it will be offering “free identity protection services” to any users it identifies as having been exposed.


I’m not remotely surprised by any of this. Even before the hacking incident, which has sparked discussion around sensitive information being shared online, Tea was seen as controversial and accused of being fundamentally misandrist.

Its intentions were good: founder Sean Cook launched the site after being privy to his mother’s online dating experiences. She was catfished and matched with a man who, unbeknown to her, had a criminal record. Tea was designed to rectify this – and in another world, perhaps it could.

But in the one we live in, I fear that platforms like this may end up causing more problems than they solve.

It’s important to know if someone you’re about to date has a criminal record, isn’t who they say they are, is on a sex offenders’ register, or has a history of abusive behaviour. But beyond those parameters, do single women really need to know about another woman’s – largely subjective – red flags? How is writing off any man because of what his exes have said about him at all helpful? To me, it seems myopic, insulting, and deeply unfair.

Many of us behave badly in relationships. It’s human nature; we mess up, and that’s true of both men and women. I’m sure my exes could rack up a list of terrible things I’ve said and done that, taken out of context, could put off any future suitor. But people change. We learn and grow into ourselves, often becoming different versions of who we are in different relationships.

Apps like Tea don’t allow for that nuance. It’s a binary system where bad reviews leave a permanent stain and add to the pessimism characterising the dating landscape, particularly for straight women. Consider the rising popularity of terms like “heterofatalism” – used to describe the increasing despair among women who feel there are no “good men” left.

Equally troubling is the app’s showcasing of green flags. Just because one man was a great boyfriend to one woman does not guarantee good behaviour with every other female partner. Isn’t the assumption that it does potentially as risky as going out with someone whose reviews are littered with red flags?

In an ideal world, we would all of us – men and women – go on dates with people who’ve been vetted. There would be no risk of being ghosted, stood up, or manipulated. Sure, it would be lovely. But we don’t live in an ideal world, as Tea has neatly reminded us.
 
The title of this article has virtually nothing to do with its contents and the contents themselves are an ice-cold take on old news. Fuck you, Independent.

EDIT: Oh, that's not the actual title of the article. Did they change it or is OP being an editorializing faggot?
 
Because they let women browse men as if they're roots and tubers, something unconscious and in abundance that you might forage in the ancestral environment. Women aren't evolved for that level of choice and can't handle it. The proof is that like 80% of them are on SSRIs due to being massively depressed.
 
In an ideal world, we would all of us – men and women – go on dates with people who’ve been vetted. There would be no risk of being ghosted, stood up, or manipulated. Sure, it would be lovely. But we don’t live in an ideal world, as Tea has neatly reminded us.
Dating as a concept exists in the first place to vet people. If you are needing other people to vet people before you've even started dating, you already lost the plot. It really says a lot about modern society that women's preferred fix to being ghosted, stood up, and catfished is to ask all the local women what their views on some random man is. And that the rightful backlash to this is the problem, not the private, no-evidence needed, smear app.
 
Because if you find an actual relationship, you won't need to subscribe anymore.
This is it, basically. They're trash on purpose, because the more they're able to make and keep you unhappy, the more money they can extract from you with paid premium features and empty promises.

Part of me is very happy Uncle Ted didn't live to see how much worse things can get.
 
Yet, if a similar app had been launched for Men (including those in same-sex relationships) it would have been banned.

The truth is that most people who date normally meet great people - yes, there are bad eggs in among the good, but that is society and we can't punish everybody just because of a few scammers, abusers etc.

Apps can be hacked, but certain people believe that they are the sacred and holy.
 
Certain things can't be commoditized.

No matter how far tech advances, there are certain things that will, to the consternation of line-go-uppers, tech bros, academics and all other assorted social tinkerers...... never be easily made adjustable by just harvesting enough data to see the patterns that must be there...

Human happiness can't be reduced to a series of "please rate your interactions on a 1-5 scale with 5 being "very satisfied" ...." qualifiers and then "adjusted" up or down as needed.

Neither can human relationships and sexual compatibility.
 
My recollection is that it was somewhat less awful in the pre-swiping era, although the mass degradation of social life post pandemic also contributes to the hellscape it is today IMO. And probably the ubiquity of online porn. I did OLD in the Before Times and it was fine; I didn’t meet the man of my dreams, but I met a bunch of really interesting people who were mostly normal. I tried it again this year for 4 months and was inundated with hundreds of “hi” messages. Every single man I corresponded with was only interested in endless texting with the occasional extremely fumbled sexual advance. I went on zero actual dates. What struck me the most was how BORING these dudes were, which was not at all the case on my previous go-round. Conversation was essentially like pulling teeth. Not a great use of anyone’s time.

Also, the AI that I assume wrote this article doesn’t understand that being ghosted is really not what most women are afraid of.
 
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Because it disproportionately attracts clientele of lower quality or outright fraud. The use of premium gates and psychological manipulation algorithms only reinforce the former point while ensuring no user unless they’re cream of the crop has a decent experience.
 
Because they exist to make their developers money. If they created stable long lasting relationships, they wouldn’t be able to charge their customers a monthly fee for long.

They have a financial incentive to prevent people from finding a mate so they come back to the app and be a good little pay pig. This means they will connect you with just enough people on the app to keep you using it, but not someone you can form a long lasting relationship with.

Regardless of this, I find it funny how much the Tea user base is crying about the cosmic justice they have received. If the dev hadn’t hated straight white men to the point where they refused to hire them, one might have told them it was unwise to leave their id upload bucket open to the public.
 
In February, when USAID was outed as being this massive slush fund for all kinds of weird pet projects, one of the companies they were giving money to was Grindr for whatever reason. Tinder and other dating apps were based off of Grindr, (maybe even the name Tinder was inspired by?) anyway they basically exported gay male culture to women that way. Mainstreamed it.

I can’t prove anything beyond the former, but don’t these dating apps seem like discouragement campaigns to keep birth rates low? That, or they are companies that profit off of people’s loneliness. Either option is no good.
 
I think they tend to work OK for people who know their value and not what they (falsely) believe they are. Both men and women. A lot of people are just plain delusional over their place in the world and demand far more than they're merited.
 
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