Culture When Your Son Goes MAGA - Some liberal parents face a new, unexpected challenge: how to talk to their children who voted for Donald J. Trump.

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“I was like, who’s got a hold of my son?” one mother said. Michelle Gustafson for The New York Times

By Callie Holtermann
Jan. 19, 2025

It is easy for Alex Behr to gush about her son, Eli, whom she describes as a generous and thoughtful college junior who had a serious skateboarding phase.

It is much harder for her to talk about his politics. Ms. Behr, 59, is a Democrat in Portland, Ore., who voted enthusiastically for Vice President Kamala Harris in the November election. She and her ex-husband were appalled that Eli, 20, decided to cast his first vote in a presidential election this fall for Donald J. Trump.

When Eli brought a “Make America Great Again” hat home from college this summer, Ms. Behr threw it into the corner of his bedroom. They argued about guns, immigration and abortion, struggling to do so without permanently damaging their relationship.

“facts don’t matter to you,” Ms. Behr wrote in a moment of frustration during one text exchange about Mr. Trump’s legal battles. “love you. have a good day.”

A few months removed from Mr. Trump’s victory, the two have arrived at an impasse. Ms. Behr worries her son is being swayed by conservative opinions fed to him on YouTube and Instagram. Eli feels like he is simply learning to think for himself — a quality he admires in Mr. Trump.

“He’s not afraid to say what he thinks,” Eli said in an interview. “It seems like what he says is coming from him instead of coming from a big cabinet behind you, telling you what to say.”

Mr. Trump has for nearly a decade been a source of political divides within families, cleaving new fault lines along the way. In 2016, as younger voters leaned toward Hillary Clinton over Mr. Trump, it was easy to find left-leaning children loudly bemoaning the politics of their Trump-supporting parents, online and in the news.

This time around, there is a fresh wrinkle. Although young voters as a whole preferred Ms. Harris, Mr. Trump secured a second term in office with the help of an improved performance among young men. That has in some families exposed a different dynamic: liberal parents contending with their conservative sons.

In one of several articles of its kind published in 2016, The Cut interviewed Mrs. Clinton’s supporters about their Trump-voting fathers. By 2024, one of the publication’s columnists was instead asking “Can Parents Prevent Their Sons From Sliding to the Right?” on behalf of progressives like herself.

Some liberal parents aren’t so sure they should try to intervene. Plenty see their sons’ embrace of Mr. Trump as an expected act of rebellion, or a choice made by an independent young adult that they should respect. For others, it has felt like a painful rejection of the values they have tried to instill in their children.

“I’ve had to do a lot of soul searching and reading about it to not feel like I’ve failed as a mom,” said Ms. Behr, who adopted Eli from China when he was 10 months old. In tearful therapy sessions, she has come to believe that pressuring her son to share her views was only making him more deeply entrenched.

Over Christmas break, the pair watched “The Godfather II” and hiked in Forest Park, avoiding any talk about politics. Eli said he was confident his close relationship with his mother would survive their political differences.

“I love my mom,” said Eli, who now refrains from wearing his MAGA hat around her. “I want her to stay a part of my family.”

‘Who’s Got a Hold of My Son?’​

Research has typically supported that parents pass along their political loyalties to their children. When children are young, parents have more control over their political influences; as they grow closer to voting age the onslaught of messaging becomes harder to monitor.

In a hyper-digital world, parents’ influence may be waning, said Christopher Ojeda, an assistant professor of political science at University of California, Merced, and an author of two studies on party identification across generations.

Parents used to decide what news channel played on the TV and which newspaper arrived on the family’s doorstep. Children might have encountered opposing political opinions at school, but “it’s not like they had an endless supply of information about alternative ideas to what their parents were presenting them,” Professor Ojeda said.

Today, though, social media has given young people access to a world of information about politics far beyond their parents’ visibility or control — much of it targeted toward young men.

In the months leading up to the election, the Trump campaign conducted a full-court press to appeal to this demographic, aligning Mr. Trump with a constellation of podcast hosts and YouTubers who put out irreverent entertainment while validating young men’s frustrations with the status quo. The move seems to have been broadly effective: While support for Mr. Trump was strongest among young white men, he also made inroads among young Black and Latino voters.

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Mr. Trump aggressively courted young men in the final phase of his presidential campaign, aligning himself with podcasters and YouTubers with large male audiences. Kenny Holston/The New York Times

Before 2020, Chris and Melanie Morlan, who both lean Democratic and live in Spokane, Wash., had mostly heard their son echo political beliefs that resembled their own. He began to sound different around the time of Black Lives Matter protests in Portland and Seattle, Ms. Morlan said, which he told her had gotten too out of control. He began listening to YouTube channels like Better Bachelor, which disparages feminism and diversity, equity and inclusion. (Its host also cheers on Mr. Trump.)

“I was like, who’s got a hold of my son?” said Ms. Morlan, 64, a marriage and family therapist.

Ms. Morlan says her son, now a 24-year-old who voted for Mr. Trump in the 2024 election, seems to have been drawn into an online sphere that affirmed his fears and vulnerabilities as he was aging into his masculinity. As he became more immersed, she said, he began to see the Republican Party as a defender of more conventional notions of manhood. When she tried to push back, explaining how much she was pained by Mr. Trump’s treatment of women, she remembered him telling her that the president’s most inflammatory comments did not reflect who he really was.

“I always tell him, ‘I might get worried about you and I might feel sad because I don’t think you understand some things that maybe you will down the road,’” Ms. Morlan said. “‘But I’m going to love you more when you’re struggling, because it’s just politics.’”

Mr. Morlan, 57, an architect, was not immediately accepting of his son’s support for Mr. Trump. “Initially, it was like, ‘Are you crazy?’” he said. But Mr. Morlan has backed off over time, conscious that trying to discredit his son could keep them from having political discussions at all.

“As soon as they’re young adults, you don’t get to tell them how to think anymore,” he said.

Some parents still worry about the kind of men they will grow up to become. Kevin Bromberg, 58, a Democrat who lives in a suburb of Charlotte, N.C., said he disapproved of Mr. Trump’s lack of empathy toward immigrants like his wife. The insults and shock-talk that turned Mr. Bromberg off did not seem to alienate his 22- and 20-year-old sons from a previous marriage, who both voted for Mr. Trump.

Mr. Bromberg says he is happy that they are paying attention to politics at all, and has told his sons he respects their opinions. But a part of him remains concerned that the callousness he sees in Mr. Trump and the Republican Party will find its way into his children.

“Look, I’m not worried about my kids becoming educated on the issues,” he said. “What I don’t want is for my kids to become these cruel people.”

‘Nobody Feels Heard’​

Parents who have been warned against hovering like helicopters seem to understand that micromanaging their children’s party affiliation is probably not setting them up for independent lives. Still, they didn’t necessarily consider that the children they taught to think for themselves might someday vote differently than they did.

That goes for parents in both parties. A decade ago, the conservative talk show host Dennis Prager wrote in National Review about right-leaning parents gawking at their progressive children. “As the father of two sons, I readily admit that if they became leftists, while I would, of course, always love them, I would be deeply saddened,” he wrote, before concluding that young people were internalizing left-wing values from “radical” universities.

Mike Rothschild, a therapist in Austin, Texas, says he more frequently hears from families whose political friction stems from a conservative older generation sparring with a more progressive younger one. By the time they reach his office, it is usually the case that “nobody feels heard and everybody feels invalidated,” he said.

Parents often feel anxious to ensure that their children, moving into adulthood, do not become destructive forces in society, Mr. Rothschild added. And young people are hard-wired to reject pressure from their parents, whether by piercing their noses or by voting for a candidate whom elder family members despise.

“The stronger our parents feel about something, the more likely we are to be like, ‘Cool, now I know where you stand and I know exactly how far away to run,” he said.

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A Trump campaign volunteer in Iowa in 2023. Some young men say they are attracted to what they see as the Republican Party’s defense of masculinity. Jordan Gale for The New York Times

In an article published in August in The Guardian, Sam Delaune, a special-education teacher in California, wrote that his political identity as a Democrat had been forged in opposition to that of his father, an “old-school” Reaganite. Still, Mr. Delaune was thrown when his own son joined far-right message boards as a teenager and eventually bought into Mr. Trump’s political propositions.

“I wonder now how much of Nick’s fascination with MAGA is a reaction against the way I brought him up,” Mr. Delaune wrote, using a pseudonym for his 21-year-old son.

Conservative young men are quick to object to the idea that their ideology is some neat reversal of their parents’ beliefs, or a byproduct of indoctrination by right-wing podcasts and influencers. In interviews, they describe feeling undervalued in a society with rapidly changing gender roles and concerned about a lack of economic opportunity.

Some see the Republican Party as a safe place to voice those concerns. Max Sorokin, 19, said he had become frustrated with the progressive atmosphere in the Bay Area, where he grew up, because he felt like people on the left were too quick to “cancel” anyone who did not agree with them on every issue.

His decision to align himself with Mr. Trump in the 2024 election was reinforced by what he viewed as the Democratic Party’s total lack of interest in trying to court his demographic.

“They didn’t even try to make young men sympathize with them,” he said. “They sort of ignored them.”

Max’s father, Alexei, usually identifies himself as liberal but says he has been careful not to impose any political beliefs on his son. He’s talked to Max about how some Americans are afraid their lives will be thrown into chaos because of their sexual orientation, their religion or their immigration status.

“I told my son, ‘Look, you’re privileged,’” said Mr. Sorokin, 44, who immigrated to the United States from Russia with Max in 2013. “You don’t feel fragile because you’re young and healthy and white.”

Alexei still considers himself to the left of his son, but said some of his own views had shifted, too. In particular, he feels the Democratic Party has far too little tolerance for conversation about ideas that challenge its party orthodoxy.

He began to describe what he sees Democrats’ eagerness to “censor” opposing viewpoints, then interrupted his stream of thought. “A lot of this echoes what my son was saying,” he said.

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Stupid white liberals adopted a chink so they can virtue signal.

You get what you fucking deserve.
When I was a kid my parents always threatened to do this, so they could "have at least one kid who wasn't a complete fucking disappointment." Fortunately, I guess, they ended up not being narcissist enough to actually carry through on their threat. Or it was also the late 80s and so they probably didn't have any way of looking up any information on how to actually do it.
 
Maybe if you would have adopted domestic babies instead of insisting on imported baby because you're a baby snob and needed a little Chinese kid to do your taxes and make your friends think you're such a good person this never would have happened, Alex. You should have known ricebabies are attracted to the color red and nationalism naturally, you didn't even bother to research the breed, you just had to have a little oriental dumpling of your own because of all the funny pictures you see online with the Bruce Lee Halloween costumes with little nunchucks and because your friends were all bragging about their adopted yellow chinababies with their great report cards. This is why the pound is full of them despite needing no more attention than a houseplant.
Genuinely excellent post, article bitch blown the fuck out.

They should be glad they didn't raise a retarded cuckold.
 
I wonder how long the lying lumpenpress is going to keep saying this. No roles aren't changing, they are being engineered top down by picking winners, and losers with the clear goal of driving a wedge between men and women. The mistake made has been the idea that women are just as good as men. Which is similar to the mistake that browns are just as good as whites. Reality doesn't have a liberal bias.
I wonder if telling women men are superior to them plays any part in driving a wedge between the genders.
 
I'm older than the kids in this story, but my childless twice divorced aunt went on a tirade on Facebook about how Republicans were rooting for Los Angeles to burn. I responded politely that I tend to run in conservative circles and that I hadn't heard that. I also detailed why the fires happened (empty and unbuilt reservoirs, poor forest management, etc). I didn't mention Trump at all.

That night I got a novel length text message, that I can only assume was composed via a very drunk speech-to-text session. The long and short of it that I and the rest of my immediate family are Nazi Supporters, Trump is a rapist, I'm failing my 10 year old daughter by voting the way I do because she will one day need an abortion and that one of her friends died (who was gay and a Kamala supporter... I'm not really sure why I care about either).

I didn't mean to poke this bear, so I asked my Dad how he wanted me to handle this (keep the family peace and all) and was informed that she's been going on for awhile about how she's concerned about my daughter's reproductive rights. Apparently, she's really concerned about my daughter being able to have an abortion (which is so far down my list of priorities, I don't think it makes the list).
 
I'm older than the kids in this story, but my childless twice divorced aunt went on a tirade on Facebook about how Republicans were rooting for Los Angeles to burn. I responded politely that I tend to run in conservative circles and that I hadn't heard that. I also detailed why the fires happened (empty and unbuilt reservoirs, poor forest management, etc). I didn't mention Trump at all.

That night I got a novel length text message, that I can only assume was composed via a very drunk speech-to-text session. The long and short of it that I and the rest of my immediate family are Nazi Supporters, Trump is a rapist, I'm failing my 10 year old daughter by voting the way I do because she will one day need an abortion and that one of her friends died (who was gay and a Kamala supporter... I'm not really sure why I care about either).

I didn't mean to poke this bear, so I asked my Dad how he wanted me to handle this (keep the family peace and all) and was informed that she's been going on for awhile about how she's concerned about my daughter's reproductive rights. Apparently, she's really concerned about my daughter being able to have an abortion (which is so far down my list of priorities, I don't think it makes the list).
dude no offense but your aunt sounds sketchy as fuck. I'd watch her around your kid if I were you
 
You should have known ricebabies are attracted to the color red and nationalism naturally, you didn't even bother to research the breed, you just had to have a little oriental dumpling of your own because of all the funny pictures you see online with the Bruce Lee Halloween costumes with little nunchucks and because your friends were all bragging about their adopted yellow chinababies with their great report cards.
Behavior is partially hereditary and the Chinese have had 4,000 years of the same culture until last century. I genuinely believe they're a case study in the role of genetics in sociology.
 
These same people cheered whenever someone from a heavily Christian household went euphoric atheist, or when someone from a Conservative family voted for Obama. They forget...what mommy and daddy does isn't cool. Of course, these idiots in the article sound like whiny children themselves, so maybe they just never grew up. Ah well, I'll enjoy my generation of Conservacucks and hopefully the pendulum doesn't swing back until I'm old as hell.
 
dude no offense but your aunt sounds sketchy as fuck. I'd watch her around your kid if I were you

Thinking back, I don't think she's ever spent any time alone with her (or any of my kids) and if she did, it was for a minimal amount of time. She's got some hoarding issues and despite living a few miles from us, is wrapped up in her own bullshit.

The last time she and I got into it (probably about a year ago), she was saying some nonsense about how "If people can bring their kids to a strip club, then drag shows for children shouldn't be banned". Being married, I don't go to a lot of strip clubs (and even when I was single, I viewed them as akin to a restaurant where you can't eat the food). That being said, I've been to a few in my time and I cannot recall ever seeing a child there and would've been horrified if I had.

She did not believe that children weren't in these places and somehow that misguided belief justified having grown men perform sexualized dances in front of children. In hindsight, her tirade about her gay friend may have stemmed from me saying that "People who do that should get fucking AIDS", which to be fair is not what I want to happen to all gay men, just the one's shaking their asses in children's faces.
 
B-B-B-But, you're supposed to be a rebel and vote against the man!!
Dad, everyone you love IS the man.

They weren't the man when I was a kid!! They were cool! That's who you should like and admire! Take it from me.
Did you take your dad's political, hell, social advice?
Hell no, conservative old loon valued things like country and honor instead of world citizenship & reddit decenc- Hey, where are you going? I was about to explain why voting for the guy who promises you a future is a bad idea and why the establishment that berate your existence and demand you sacrifice all you love for foreigners is the right thing to do!
What the hell, you're supposed to rebel against MY old man's ways and customs, not mine!
 
I wonder how tired that Asian kid gets when dealing with his parents...
 
I didn't mean to poke this bear, so I asked my Dad how he wanted me to handle this (keep the family peace and all) and was informed that she's been going on for awhile about how she's concerned about my daughter's reproductive rights. Apparently, she's really concerned about my daughter being able to have an abortion (which is so far down my list of priorities, I don't think it makes the list).

Last election everyone in my family went on about how they were voting Kamala to protect my very young daughter’s future rights and it was all I could do to keep my wife from outright murdering them.
 
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