🌟 Internet Famous WhatifAltHist / Rudyard Lynch - History youtuber, galaxy brained, no credentials and no sex

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The food in his area has recently become utterly disgusting. He's throwing up regularly. And it's happening to others too.
  • He eats one bite and waits to see if the food is good. Most people don't notice because they eat too fast. "The Frost is already eroding their sense of taste."
  • No idea what the fuck this is about. He's actually claiming all the food around him is literally rotting. I haven't seen others in his sphere claim that food (beef in particular, apparently) in the US has suddenly become awful tasting.

He has to be one drugs again or maybe a doctor put him on antipsychotics. I am very surprised he coped to being wrong. Any news about the order of the red dragon?
 
I don't think there will be quite enough bitter zoomer incels to make that much of a dent and cause a civil war.
I never really got chudyard's angle with this one. Civil war is something for young and vibrant nations, whereas a civilization in decline is far more prone to lethargy, ennui, and slowly lowering its standards in every way because people no longer give a fuck. I mentioned this in the zoomer thread, but Gen Z is special in that they're the first gen in American history to view the world as corrupt yet not do a single thing about it. Millennials at least had their Colbert Report/Michael Moore/2011 Reddit/Trader Joe's/Bernie Sanders/door-to-door grassroots campaigns world view where all the bad shit in society was just temporary and came from poor education. Even if this world view was wrong, it was internally consistent and logical. Zoomers 25 and under have nothing like this. They have no plans to make the world a better place, they just ironically joke about Charlie Kirk and Epstein on social media. It's pretty bad
 
Civil war is something for young and vibrant nations, whereas a civilization in decline is far more prone to lethargy, ennui, and slowly lowering its standards in every way because people no longer give a fuck.
No? This is a pretty recent phenomenon, civilizations in 'decline' are commonly defined by civil wars in very large part because the lethargy and ennui of the ruling establishments makes them vulnerable and strips away their legitimacy. The Roman Republic's civil wars were all in the period before its transition to empire, the Roman Empire's civil wars were in its period before its fragmentation, and palace coups defined its last years. Chinese, Persian, Arab and Turkish empires usually collapsed because of civil wars. The great powers of Europe nearly all fell to civil war in the aftermath of WW1.
Zoomers 25 and under have nothing like this.
Not really? Zoomers are more polarized than any other generation. They are responsible for a resurgence in traditional religious denominations, in nativist political organizations, and a general opening of the overton window in public discourse. 'Those aren't plans' - sure, but what were the Millennial's plans? Occupy Wall Street and the Tea Party? Complain about their parents on social media and voting for whoever late night hosts told them to? You (and Rudy) are effectively complaining that the poorest, smallest, most disenfranchised, most fatherless generation isn't organizing an armed revolution by itself and is coping by complaining about the injustice of Epstein and Kirk.
 
Things will just swing back in November. The uniparty loves political theater and the American cattle eat it up. There will be no "civil war" because that would require zoomies to actually do something besides performative posting. The Left can do this thanks to women already being aligned with them and their willingness to import 3rd world barbarians. More of a coup than a civil war- get a gun or get out by 2028
 
Chudyard gets alot of things wrong and the civil war stuff is one of them.

Yes there social atomization, and yes there is severe mental crisis going on. But stagnation (a shift to neo feudalism or techno capitalism) is the likely path going forward. The technology gap between the average American vs the government is widening. Meritocracy ironically is breeding an American quasi aristocracy where the same family/patronage networks are forming and cracking through this network is difficult unless you marry into a powerful clique and prove yourself exceptional. The boomeresque “pull yourself by the bootstraps” doesn’t cut it when it comes to elite politics. Chudy could revise his “thesis” and angle it from this direction.

Also mouse utopia? Sure it might apply to American cities, but barely. China has mega cities right now that make American cities look dwarfed. While fertility has cratered there, it’s not as doom and gloom as Chudy makes it out to be.

Sorry for politisperging. I’m merely responding to some of Chudyard’s scattered claims. He’s like a broken clock, repeating the same shit he’s said for years. Most of his predictions aren’t true.
 
Speak oh wise prophet of odin!
Tell of the coming cataclysm!
(i’m not watching this lmao)

Also anyone else notice how much he glazed odin when he was talking about the Germanics in the last video? For some reason he said that odin taught the germanics to always be honest and never lie even though a layman’s understanding of norse mythology would tell you that odin is a notorious trickster and liar in service for his quest for knowledge

Maybe odin has reformed since his norse days? I guess chudyard would probably have a better insight into odins character than we goyim
 
You (and Rudy) are effectively complaining that the poorest, smallest, most disenfranchised, most fatherless generation isn't organizing an armed revolution by itself and is coping by complaining about the injustice of Epstein and Kirk.
These are all labels that zoomers have chosen to adopt for themselves, stapling it to their identity. Is America poorer, less white, more divorced, more lethargic, more confused than the past generation? Of course. But did that happen overnight? Obviously not. If you look at any stats for these kinds of things, it'll be worse, but not, "Oh I'm such a blackpilled doomer society is over ted was right" level worse. Millennials had it almost as bad (especially after 2008), but you didn't see them doing this sort of gay shit. I don't care how hard zoomers have it, I'm just say in terms of pure societal effectiveness, zoomers are weaker than millennials, but millennials are also weaker than Gen X who were weaker than the boomers.

The boomers managed to convert their social causes into permanent mainstays of political discussion like environmentalism, anti-war, anti-racism, human rights, etc. It was so successful that it's hard to grasp there was a time when no one cared about these things. Gen X and millennial social causes were ultimately just trends that faded away. Zoomers don't even have causes or trends. "More latinx teenagers watching Nick Fuentes" is not a trend, "groypers" are not a movement. Maybe Gen Z's going to produce its own authentic social movement over the next few years. Honestly, I don't see that happening.
 
You (and Rudy) are effectively complaining that the poorest, smallest, most disenfranchised, most fatherless generation isn't organizing an armed revolution by itself and is coping by complaining about the injustice of Epstein and Kirk.
Yes, because there's a rampaging chimpanzee at the edge of the forest. It's coming, it's charging, it will rip the zoomies face off. But Zoomers who have a gun at their side are content to finger wag and whine instead.
 
@Hypercop @Computer God Autism
Isn't it an accurate reduction to just frame it as
Millenials - unified, yet too socialized and agreeable to meaningfully go against the boomer establishment.
Zoomers - driven, yet too dis-unified and too disagreeable to organize meaningful change.

Ether way, I still say that the operating factor is the age demographics. Either a civilization is "young" or "old" (in Spenglarian sense) what makes civil wars is a population of young and optimistic (even if naively so) men that believe they can improve their situation by breaking things. Therefore, I do believe, that if Zoomers as they are now, hypothetically were big enough age demographic, even in their schizophrenic disunity they could start something that Rudyard describes as civil war. But they aren't - most people that still run the society are old and scared to break anything, because they don't know how put things together from scratch. And they are too aware of their mortality.

I'm more with ethno political spergs on this one. I think an import of shit ton of young foreigners is much more likely to create something that looks like a civil war, but after a rapid growth of unified foreign enclaves.
 
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@Hypercop @Computer God Autism
Isn't it an accurate reduction to just frame it as
Millenials - unified, yet too socialized and agreeable to meaningfully go against the boomer establishment.
Zoomers - driven, yet too dis-unified and too disagreeable to organize meaningful change.

Ether way, I still say that the operating factor is the age demographics. Either a civilization is "young" or "old" (in Spenglarian sense) what makes civil wars is a population of young and optimistic (even if naively so) men that believe they can make things better by breaking things. Therefore, I do believe, that if hypothetically Zoomers as they are now, were big enough age demographic, even in their schizophrenic disunity they could start something that Rudyard describes as civil war. But they aren't - most people that still run the society are old and scared to break anything, because they don't know how put things together from scratch. And they are too aware of their mortality.

I'm more with ethno political spergs on this one. I think an import of shit ton of young foreigners is much more likely to create something that looks like a civil war, but after a rapid growth of unified foreign enclaves.
I really wouldn't call zoomers driven. Even if zoomers were like, 1940s level of demographic pyramid, there's simply no way they're starting a civil war with the energy levels and mentality they have currently. However, I can absolutely see the zoomer cohort lifting up the banner of some future Caesar-like figure, since you brought up Spengler and Caesarism is one of Spengler's core predictions. Zoomers seem completely content with having figures like Asmongold and Fuentes do all the "work" for them. They're happy to live vicariously through influencers while they vape and play Deadlock and vent on twitter. Now, the influencers like Tate will put up a show of being the resistance, they'll talk about all the letters and DMs they get from 3 letter agencies, but of course they're not actually fighting anything because they have no incentive to.

If you're really keen on seeing the 20 year old mobs break shit, it's gonna take a while before that happens. Our civil institutions really have to decay more first, it's just gonna take some more decades. I don't actually think the economy needs to collapse for that to happen. We just need some kind of insane power grab to happen, preceded by a long digital propaganda campaign. Basically, we need what the left thought 2016-2021 Trump was to actually happen.
 
I really wouldn't call zoomers driven. Even if zoomers were like, 1940s level of demographic pyramid, there's simply no way they're starting a civil war with the energy levels and mentality they have currently. However, I can absolutely see the zoomer cohort lifting up the banner of some future Caesar-like figure, since you brought up Spengler and Caesarism is one of Spengler's core predictions. Zoomers seem completely content with having figures like Asmongold and Fuentes do all the "work" for them. They're happy to live vicariously through influencers while they vape and play Deadlock and vent on twitter. Now, the influencers like Tate will put up a show of being the resistance, they'll talk about all the letters and DMs they get from 3 letter agencies, but of course they're not actually fighting anything because they have no incentive to.
Fair, "driven" is a very debatable description.
I just don't know how else to describe their MO where they care enough to be hyper aware about politics without being directly active in it.
Yet still sort of be politically active through layers of proxies and plausible deniability and enabling.
Like you can say their political sperging is impotent, but I still think they spend (waste) so much more mental energy on this stuff than any previous youth generations in modern history and that is something like a "drive".

Ether way, I'm with Spengler on this, I think in the long run this political meta where the population consists of mostly passive enablers is where "Ceasars" will thrive.
 
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These are all labels that zoomers have chosen to adopt for themselves, stapling it to their identity.
Sure. It also bears out statistically and you don't have to look hard to find polling data showing that, yes, zoomers are more radical (in both directions!) and more religious than prior generations, nevermind anecdotal examples.
Millennials had it almost as bad
They absolutely did not. They grew up in a mostly homogenous society with mostly functioning families, had a golden age of political and social expression thanks to dominating the early internet, open social spaces that were not dominated by the internet, a functioning dating market, could graduate uni at a time when a college degree still meant something, easy access to the booms brought about by the explosion of the tech sector and silicon valley, were positioned to get in on the ground floor at crypto, and they slop they consumed was good enough to make people who were too young to enjoy it nostalgic for it.

Did the millennials get screwed out of the housing market by the boomers or by 08 or not have as easy access to the American dream as they were promised growing up? Absolutely. Guess what; zoomers also suffered from all of that and they got very little to none of the opportunities or advantages the millennials did.
I don't care how hard zoomers have it,
Then why bring it up? Yeah, zoomers are disorganized, demoralized and shut out of institutional power. How dare they try to just get on in life instead of playing a game no one will let them buy in to. Water is wet.
The boomers managed to convert their social causes into permanent mainstays of political discussion like environmentalism, anti-war, anti-racism, human rights, etc.
???

These were not 'boomer' social causes. MLK was not a boomer. JFK was not a boomer. Woodie Guthrie was not a boomer. Michel Foucault was not a boomer. George Soros is not a boomer. Eisenhower and LBJ were not boomers. The Beatles were not boomers. The university professors who radicalized the boomers at Columbia and UC Berkeley were not boomers. Boomers were foot-soldiers for the causes they took up as a generation before they were in positions to push them. When they weren't, the result were groups like the Weather Underground or Symbionese Liberation Army, which were comically ineffective in pushing policy or inciting revolution. This is because politics and power are multi-generational projects; the boomers had older generations to organize them who had already worked on their political causes, and the boomers were happy to organize gen-xers and millennials in theirs. This is not the case for the zoomers and younger. Older generations are more interested in talking about angry young men than trying to listen to or lead them.
Gen X and millennial social causes were ultimately just trends that faded away.
What were these separate 'trends' that just faded away? Do you think political causes are only relevant for or can arise from a single generation?
Zoomers don't even have causes or trends.
No?
"More latinx teenagers watching Nick Fuentes" is not a trend
Literally the definition of a trend.
Isn't it an accurate reduction to just frame it as
Millenials - unified, yet too socialized and agreeable to meaningfully go against the boomer establishment.
Zoomers - driven, yet too dis-unified and too disagreeable to organize meaningful change.
Yes, which is why I didn't frame it as that. There are many driven millennials; that's how they monopolized most of the mid-level positions in the corporations they rallied against. They also aren't particularly interested in going against the 'boomer establishment', they're upset they didn't get to inherit it. Similarly, there are many zoomers who are just oneshot by niggerweed, porn, gambling and whatever other manner of escapism there is that keeps them from 'meaningful change'.
If you're really keen on seeing the 20 year old mobs break shit, it's gonna take a while before that happens.
It's amazing how easily people forget that only six years ago mobs of twenty-somethings were burning down churches across from the White House.

If you want mob violence, Zoomers are more than capable of it. If you want a revolution, you need multiple generations cooperating.
 
Speak oh wise prophet of odin!
Tell of the coming cataclysm!
(i’m not watching this lmao)

Also anyone else notice how much he glazed odin when he was talking about the Germanics in the last video? For some reason he said that odin taught the germanics to always be honest and never lie even though a layman’s understanding of norse mythology would tell you that odin is a notorious trickster and liar in service for his quest for knowledge

Maybe odin has reformed since his norse days? I guess chudyard would probably have a better insight into odins character than we goyim
I watched some of it. This nigga is losing his marbles fast. Nothing in it made much sense, was just some concepts and ideas strung together. Genuinely starting to think he may be a legit schizo.
 
Genuinely starting to think he may be a legit schizo.
Rudyard was raped by Odin and got his skull crushed by his mother with a 1000-page book so he could transcend and kill God. Show some respect to humanity's savior.
No idea what the fuck this is about. He's actually claiming all the food around him is literally rotting.
Some schizophrenics develop really strange attitudes towards food. He's not beating the allegations.
 
Then why bring it up? Yeah, zoomers are disorganized, demoralized and shut out of institutional power. How dare they try to just get on in life instead of playing a game no one will let them buy in to. Water is wet.
Most zoomers are still playing by the rules, so they're going to lose. This is a totally value-neutral statement IMO; there's no judgment or blaming of zoomers involved, it's just what's happening. I don't "blame" zoomers for this, because the culture they grew up in prepared them for Office Space but the world they got is Grapes of Wrath.

These were not 'boomer' social causes. MLK was not a boomer. JFK was not a boomer. Woodie Guthrie was not a boomer. Michel Foucault was not a boomer. George Soros is not a boomer. Eisenhower and LBJ were not boomers. The Beatles were not boomers. The university professors who radicalized the boomers at Columbia and UC Berkeley were not boomers. Boomers were foot-soldiers for the causes they took up as a generation before they were in positions to push them. When they weren't, the result were groups like the Weather Underground or Symbionese Liberation Army, which were comically ineffective in pushing policy or inciting revolution. This is because politics and power are multi-generational projects; the boomers had older generations to organize them who had already worked on their political causes, and the boomers were happy to organize gen-xers and millennials in theirs. This is not the case for the zoomers and younger. Older generations are more interested in talking about angry young men than trying to listen to or lead them.
Yeah, I agree with all this. Again, my mindset is not, "Fuck the weak piece of shit zoomers for not doing anything!!" I'm just saying what's happening. It's a fact that zoomers are weak and ineffective as a generation. They suck now (no offense), and will mostly continue to suck even if some individuals rise up to buck the trend. The "vibes" are just worse now. Go watch some movies about the 50s and 60s like That Thing You Do, see how energetic and young America was! (90's movie, but fuck it, it captures the era well).

The point about boomers not leading younger gens is interesting. I'm not that deep into generationology shit, but this seems undeniably true. Boomers have that selfish, narcissistic, "chosen one" mentality and it might have fucked the course of American history. You can watch the Crosby Stills Nash and Young episode of the Dick Cavett show and see it firsthand. The joke is that Dick is supposed to be the clown here, all old and stiff and formal looking, but you can tell he thinks they're basically retarded, 20 year olds who are mentally teenagers, totally naive about the world but thinking they're obviously corrrect. Amazingly that mindset is still around ~60 years later.
 
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