Containment What will happen when Barb dies?

[Whalymin]

Chris is hellbent on claiming the opposite though, lest he have to come up with a different excuse.

correct me if I'm wrong but I remember he'd tell everybody about his ed page and to not believe what's on it, he'd say that to every new person he met

 

[That Guy]

Nobody's going to hire Chris if he walks into the interview with that crazy tranny bag lady getup he's been doing all year. Even the most desperate of managers would stay the fuck away from CWC.

 

[Marvin]

Chris is hellbent on claiming the opposite though, lest he have to come up with a different excuse.

Heh, definitely. As far as he's concerned, Chris has been rejected by every place he tries to apply to, even before he applies. And that's exactly the way he likes it.

correct me if I'm wrong but I remember he'd tell everybody about his ed page and to not believe what's on it, he'd say that to every new person he met

Not that I know of.

 

[KingQueen]

Eh, The shitty attempt at being a tranny WILL affect his employment chances. Whether that's justified or not is a different story. I would have to believe that just being a regular autistic weirdo is a lot more desirable than a tranny autistic weirdo. Even if you wanted to hire retards, you probably take the "normal" ones first. I'm not saying it completely invalidates his chances of being hired, but it lowers them even more than we all thought was possible.

Seconding this. Being a non-passing tranny puts your employment out the window, even when you're not a weirdo and have a great resume. Even an otherwise-non-bigot employer won't hire you due to the fallout from other employees. Stealth exists for a reason - even if you pass, if you're out, the employment problem comes back. The reason there's a lot of homeless transfolk isn't actually because homeless nutjobs decided to jump on the trans train. It's also the real reason there was a push to change birth certificates.

 

[Marvin]

Eh, The shitty attempt at being a tranny WILL affect his employment chances.

Nobody's going to hire Chris if he walks into the interview with that crazy tranny bag lady getup he's been doing all year. Even the most desperate of managers would stay the fuck away from CWC.

This is true, and originally I said that if he needed to, he'd absolutely clean himself up and dress properly for an interview. And indeed, I think he definitely would do that, but only if he realizes that's why he's getting shot down for jobs.

He probably won't realize that that's the missing piece on his own. He'd need someone to tell him.

 

[Le Bateleur]

This is true, and originally I said that if he needed to, he'd absolutely clean himself up and dress properly for an interview. And indeed, I think he definitely would do that, but only if he realizes that's why he's getting shot down for jobs.

He probably won't realize that that's the missing piece on his own. He'd need someone to tell him.

And by "dress probably" you mean "not tomgirl"?

 

[JudgeDredd]

Just thought Id bring up the point that chris tried to get work at Wendy's and Cutco was fired from both thats why he is on the gov't check cause he lacks the mental capacity to hold down a job.

 

[January Cyst]

And by "dress probably" you mean "not tomgirl"?

Pretty much just like a somewhat "normal" (BRUTE) male.
Shirt and jeans would be fine, even his old getups (minus the Sonichu medallion) would be fine for a fast food place or a supermarket interview.
He would probably not pass the trial day or whatever is considered normal for a Mc Ds due to the lack of effort that is present throughout his vocational and academical career

 

[Ravenor]

You know I have to wonder if part of "Christine" is down to barb wanting a Daughter not a Son, I doubt she is smart enough to pull off such a long term manipulation even with some one as stunted like Chris, but from my understanding of Barb she thinks he is Smarter than every one else, an will play a part to take you for a rube.

With Chris she wanted a Daughter, an subconsciously taught "Him" all the skill's she would need to bag herself a man and how to fool the rubes, even gender steriotypes subconsciously. I said a while ago that "Chris is very much his mothers Tom-Girl" the only times he has really gone off the range so to speek is when Barb was present, I'm guessing if Chris was born a Girl he would have ended up like Kai, but with more kid's and CPS and other agencys being involved an Chris going to bars sooner.

And what we see today is Chris not living up to expectations of Barbs Daughter an general grifter attitude of "Your only really useful if your helping me to exist, in the manner I want or how I find acceptable", and he is clutching desperately for the affection he will never be able get, as he was a tool and a protege to her that never lived up to it's expectations in her eyes and in the eyes of the great Snorlax has failed miserably, even if she can't define to herself why. And Chris is autistically flailing for that "Even Mommy loves me" achievement, because barb while enabling him has never been warm to him emotionally unless it fulfilled a need for her such as not feeling physically alone (r.e. spooning) while Bob was alive.

 

[Marvin]

Just thought Id bring up the point that chris tried to get work at Wendy's and Cutco was fired from both thats why he is on the gov't check cause he lacks the mental capacity to hold down a job.

Cutco's not a job, it's a scam. And Chris didn't maintain the Wendy's job because Chris really didn't want a job and had no reason to put even the tiniest bit of effort into it.

Chris is definitely competent enough to maintain a part time job. He simply has no reason to right now.

 

[JudgeDredd]

Cutco's not a job, it's a scam. And Chris didn't maintain the Wendy's job because Chris really didn't want a job and had no reason to put even the tiniest bit of effort into it.

Chris is definitely competent enough to maintain a part time job. He simply has no reason to right now.

Well personally i dont think he could hold down a job long term but you know more than I do so ill defer to your judgement. If you say you can so then he can.

 

[Sweet and Savoury]

You know I have to wonder if part of "Christine" is down to barb wanting a Daughter not a Son, I doubt she is smart enough to pull off such a long term manipulation even with some one as stunted like Chris, but from my understanding of Barb she thinks he is Smarter than every one else, an will play a part to take you for a rube.

With Chris she wanted a Daughter, an subconsciously taught "Him" all the skill's she would need to bag herself a man and how to fool the rubes, even gender steriotypes subconsciously. I said a while ago that "Chris is very much his mothers Tom-Girl" the only times he has really gone off the range so to speek is when Barb was present, I'm guessing if Chris was born a Girl he would have ended up like Kai, but with more kid's and CPS and other agencys being involved an Chris going to bars sooner.

And what we see today is Chris not living up to expectations of Barbs Daughter an general grifter attitude of "Your only really useful if your helping me to exist, in the manner I want or how I find acceptable", and he is clutching desperately for the affection he will never be able get, as he was a tool and a protege to her that never lived up to it's expectations in her eyes and in the eyes of the great Snorlax has failed miserably, even if she can't define to herself why. And Chris is autistically flailing for that "Even Mommy loves me" achievement, because barb while enabling him has never been warm to him emotionally unless it fulfilled a need for her such as not feeling physically alone (r.e. spooning) while Bob was alive.

I think this might be stretching it a bit too much. The most obvious answer, to my eyes at least, is Fatty's laziness. He feels that women have it much easier then men, he gets along better with women (he thinks) and woman are more passive in the dating game. Ie: they can just wait for a man to ask them out.

However...I'm not discounting the theory that deep down inside that murky little ego of his Fatty feels more comfortable as a woman then as a man. The reasons might be varied but cross-dressing fulfills some deep seated need.

 

[Marvin]

Well personally i dont think he could hold down a job long term but you know more than I do so ill defer to your judgement. If you say you can so then he can.

Chris' personality right now is extremely toxic. We've all analyzed the reasons why over and over. You're right that his personality right now would prevent Chris from maintaining a job. But Chris also doesn't need to keep a job right now.

The mistake people make is that they think Chris is stubborn. He's not. His cowardly side dominates over his stubborn side. Bob and Barb have browbeaten Chris into doing shit he hates his whole life. And sure, he'll bitch about it incessantly, but he'll do it. Like with pulling weeds in the hot, hot sun.

If Chris, out of need, had to hold down a job, he'd do it. Might take a few tries for him to adjust. But he'd do it.

He'd also regard it as the most evil punishment the landlord JERK had wrought upon him, and he'd bitch to everyone (including people with actually difficult jobs) about how hard work was.

 

[Optimus Prime]

You know I have to wonder if part of "Christine" is down to barb wanting a Daughter not a Son, I doubt she is smart enough to pull off such a long term manipulation even with some one as stunted like Chris, but from my understanding of Barb she thinks he is Smarter than every one else, an will play a part to take you for a rube.

IIRC, even Chris was told by her that he was an "unplanned miracle" which to anybody except Chris obviously means he's actually kind of a bastard child. It's because Bob's navies went and conquered the wrong China that Chris was concieved and forced Bob and Barb to get married, hence forever beginning the decline of their lives as they were poor parents to Barb's existing children as it was and totally incapable of raising an austistic child. What Chris has become is not any real action on her part, rather I'd say it's the complete opposite in her lack of action in trying to even be a parent at all - there's those old babysitter stories of locking Chris in a room, and then she pretty much bribed him by taking him to the toy store and trying to make him say the names of Transformers in order to get him to even talk.

That being said, Barb's ego certainly reflects upon her son's as she really does think highly of herself - I think maybe Martin said the Chandlers are convinced they're actually European Royalty or some dumb shit like that? Anyway, she's got the obvious horde of shit and nic nacs she simply wants the pleasure of owning more than any usefulness they could grant, and personally I believe the only times she's ever come to OPL's defense (pretty much all of his school years, Game Place, I wanna say at least one more instance happened but I forget) is when Chris being a fucking dumbass ends up doubling back and would make her look bad as well - he can do whatever shit he wants so long as it won't tarnish Barb's delusional self-impressions of how everybody sees her. And he hands over some of his tugboat which she seems semi-aware of his strange attempts to weasel his way out of.

With Chris she wanted a Daughter, an subconsciously taught "Him" all the skill's she would need to bag herself a man and how to fool the rubes, even gender steriotypes subconsciously. I said a while ago that "Chris is very much his mothers Tom-Girl" the only times he has really gone off the range so to speak is when Barb was present, I'm guessing if Chris was born a Girl he would have ended up like Kai, but with more kid's and CPS and other agencys being involved an Chris going to bars sooner.

I'm pretty sure if Chris was born a girl, then there never would have been a reason to make Sonichu as I bet it would be MLP 24/7 in that situation, nor would OPL have become whatever the fuck he's become and declare himself a lesbian...based on porn aimed for straight men. As mentioned elsewhere on the boards, apparently the one thing Chris wants to do more than anything else is tribadism, something that apparently most actual lesbians don't do but he's convinced that all that porn he's seen on the subject is 100% true.

And what we see today is Chris not living up to expectations of Barbs Daughter an general grifter attitude of "Your only really useful if your helping me to exist, in the manner I want or how I find acceptable", and he is clutching desperately for the affection he will never be able get, as he was a tool and a protege to her that never lived up to it's expectations in her eyes and in the eyes of the great Snorlax has failed miserably, even if she can't define to herself why. And Chris is autistically flailing for that "Even Mommy loves me" achievement, because barb while enabling him has never been warm to him emotionally unless it fulfilled a need for her such as not feeling physically alone (r.e. spooning) while Bob was alive.

I think Barb's lost her mind enough to the point all she can truly do is just regard Chris as being "around" and still the stupidly obedient servant who does everything she asks of him. The moment Bob died a few years ago marks when Chris really shifted into this tom girl tranny bullshit as Barb doesn't even seem to care.

 

[Ravenor]

Cutco's not a job, it's a scam.

And how, the blades are sharp for the first few cut's but can't stnad up to prolonged use. They are a mass market "Battle Blades" where as Battle Blades goes for teenage ego and testosterone fueled blade lust, the Cutco stuff goes for the housewife wanting to be THE house wife, with always sharp scissors an knife that can jullien a potato then move onto fillaying a Deer, followed by a session of stabbing cans into submission.

In the UK we have Kerby Cleaners, and a company called Arcadia Direct, they target the desperate and students, I sadly shared a office building with the latter and on a few occasions I stepped outside to have a smoke on one occasion I found a guy who was trying to get a light for a rollie an we got chatting. He was a CompSci grad who couldn't get a job and was desperate for a job, we got chatting an Said "I can get you a interview"he followed me out of desperation I sat him down with my Secriaty and my old Senior Unix guy, I offered him a job on the spot an paid him a week in advance, not because of what he said to me before the interview I gave him but he proved he had a skill during the ad-hoc interview.

He became MY guy for Databases, an now runs a DB consultancy company on his own (an is still my DB guy), and he applied to me a month before but discarded it because he couldn't write a CV, (onceI found this out, I revised my CV review policy). In a month I saw him go from a guy willing to do anything, to a happy confidant an above all valued person.

Places like Cutco an Kerby, play on students and the desperate, and ignorant like Chris. They make money off you even if you don't make a sale and they make far more than the pittance you DO make when you find some one willing to make a sale, an often only after 30 day's without a refund. They work a lot like religions, find the desperate give them a cause and belife in a deliverance for there current worldly ill's and renforce it with communal chanting like so:

Just a asside, Professional armies work the same way during basic. They break down your personal beliefs and then build you back up with a sense of belonging, and group activity an monotonous easy to recall chanting. It's your reason to stay with the herd and your by wrote and drill if not indoctrinated outright, The American chant made famous in FMJ is "This is my rifle, there are many like it but this one is mine..." You all perform the same drill an feel a connection to what your doing an who your doing it with. Your part of a tool a hammer to smash the enemy, OK there is Unit specialisation but the basics an training are the same.

You know what I find Ironic, in a far earlier age Chris would have made a decent Solider, Simple instructions nothing complex and a daily routine that was the same for the most part. He can learn some skill's if practiced by rote, he could learn how to step, put on a uniform and load, level an fire. I'm not saying he could have become Sharp, but what I am saying is back in the 17 / 18 00's his autisim could have got him friends and a job, even if that job was to stand there like a ponce with a primitive firearm an listen to some one slightly less poncy to level his bang stick an pull the trigger that should have been marked SINGE EYEBROWS.

The problem is though Chris, is (barely / biologically) a Man In Bob's day he would have been a big dummy stacking an packing, WW1 he would have been Trench fodder, given a poorly constructed rifle an told to have at it, During the American Civil war and earlier he would have been adequate musket fodder, to allow the horsey set to play soldiers with cap guns and feel important, in the dawn of mechanised warfare.

However today, he is just a curiosity of the newfangled communication network called the internet and a old one at that. He's the homeless beggar doing ticks Cairo used to telegraph in 1910 about side the office on the back channel to the other offices, funny for a while an fan's will always be intrested but in the long run becomes less an less relevant.

Technology, Culture and people eventually pass him by a foot note in obscurity is his grand total of existence an our community less so. He's the internets flapper girl, one's a memory twos a anecdote, an given the long term but short lived memory of the digital world he will be not but a foot note the detail wont survive, no matter how well we document it. In the end the CWCik will be Marvin at the age of 183 and the final excitement will be the Last Google Archive bot passing the site, sparking up a dooby playing the last bloodhound gang album an slowly falling asleep with the last whispered words from his mouth being "I rember you, Chris. It was all in good fun" as it burns down to the unpleasant roach betwixt his lips, and as that moment happens two legends finally pass into memory.

BTW I'm not logging marvin, in this scenario he has had a really full an long life, an Christory is a life long hobby for him after 100+ years of getting pussy and smoking weed it's all become the same to him and this is his one final act to recall the old days where fun was unpredictable.

 

[Sweet and Savoury]

Chris' personality right now is extremely toxic. We've all analyzed the reasons why over and over. You're right that his personality right now would prevent Chris from maintaining a job. But Chris also doesn't need to keep a job right now.

The mistake people make is that they think Chris is stubborn. He's not. His cowardly side dominates over his stubborn side. Bob and Barb have browbeaten Chris into doing shit he hates his whole life. And sure, he'll bitch about it incessantly, but he'll do it. Like with pulling weeds in the hot, hot sun.

If Chris, out of need, had to hold down a job, he'd do it. Might take a few tries for him to adjust. But he'd do it.

He'd also regard it as the most evil punishment the landlord JERK had wrought upon him, and he'd bitch to everyone (including people with actually difficult jobs) about how hard work was.

I pray to all powerful Athiesmo that this event happens.

The salt that will flow be enough to supply McDonalds for decades.

Sadly I just can't imagine a scenario that results in Fatty having to hold down a jerb.

 

[Marvin]

I pray to all powerful Athiesmo that this event happens.

The salt that will flow be enough to supply McDonalds for decades.

Sadly I just can't imagine a scenario that results in Fatty having to hold down a jerb.

Yeah, I doubt 14BC will go broke while Barb is alive. Barb would force Chris to get a job if she needed him to, but I doubt they'll get to that situation.

Now, what would be interesting is if Chris got an apartment post-Barb. His tugboat would cover a cheap apartment in Charlottesville, probably with a roommate. However, he'd be extremely poor without a part time job. Not being able to afford his toys and all the low quality restaurant food he eats would be very stressful. But a job would be stressful too. Chris would be between a rock and a hard place.

Get a job and suffer under manajerks all day OR not have his video games and legos? Sophie's choice, amirite?

(Oh man, I bet Chris would be forced to sell some of his toys for money at some point. He would be so pissed about that.)

 

[Lysistrata]

It's because Bob's navies went and conquered the wrong China that Chris was concieved and forced Bob and Barb to get married.

I don't know where this came from, but I keep seeing it and it's not true. Borb were married in 1980, Chris was born in 1982. Was he an accident? Maybe. But he's not a bastard child, and certainly not the reason his parents married.

 

[AnOminous]

Yeah, I doubt 14BC will go broke while Barb is alive. Barb would force Chris to get a job if she needed him to, but I doubt they'll get to that situation.

Now, what would be interesting is if Chris got an apartment post-Barb. His tugboat would cover a cheap apartment in Charlottesville, probably with a roommate. However, he'd be extremely poor without a part time job. Not being able to afford his toys and all the low quality restaurant food he eats would be very stressful. But a job would be stressful too. Chris would be between a rock and a hard place.

Get a job and suffer under manajerks all day OR not have his video games and legos? Sophie's choice, amirite?

(Oh man, I bet Chris would be forced to sell some of his toys for money at some point. He would be so pissed about that.)

Even McDonald's has applicants who aren't tards. And they seriously don't want tards doing something like the drive through window, because having a fuckup there can easily cost $100+ a day in wasted time, comping pissed off customers, and lost sales. He could only do a job where he was kept away from customers, and they couldn't afford to dedicate another whole employee just to keep the tard from tarding out, which he'd do if given free rein.

 

[Optimus Prime]

I don't know where this came from, but I keep seeing it and it's not true. Borb were married in 1980, Chris was born in 1982. Was he an accident? Maybe. But he's not a bastard child, and certainly not the reason his parents married.

Ah, my mistake. I actually had it backwards - thought he was born in 1980 and they were married 1982. I know this doesn't work out if you work his age backwards but honestly I kind of don't give a shit about his age beyond the fact he's nearing the mid-thirties and acts like he's a forth of his actual age.