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My point is that there are lots of people who are in trouble because they don't get this help, and they still aren't getting it. Chris is at the back of a very long line.
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CharlieBrowns
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Barb is such a grifter, I'm surprised she hasn't faked her own death and moved into Bob's shed.
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Chris is in the system and has no trouble being a mooch. He would seek out the help as long he could keep up his 7 year old child of divorced parents lifestyle.
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It's not help to Chris. It's imprisonment.
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Oddly enough I listened to most of the Kacey calls over the weekend and listened to that one (http://sonichu.com/cwcki/Kacey_Call_15) last night. It was VERY interesting to hear her. I thought she was drunk. LOL But, I would recommend anyone who hasn't listened to that exchange to do so. Here is the text for those who would rather read it:
Chris: [pause] Like I'm actually, like I'm you know, fe-, I got started like a year or two ago you know, talking to people, getting to know people, going to church, finding social outings to go to- Oh, 'scuse me, my mom.
Barbara: Yeah. [unclear]
Chris: Sure mom. [unclear] looking for you. [movement, sigh] Yeah I'm OK. Just talking to Kacey, what's up?
Barbara: Do you have your dollar(s)[unintelligible]?
Chris: Uh actually I think I put the rest that I had in my wallet in the bank before I came home but I'll see. Have enough to buy the sandwich. Oh uh I ah- I put five dollars in the bank.
Barbara: [That's too bad]?
Chris: Ahh, OK.
Barbara: Yeah, you saved five...[unintelligible] ...dollars paid.
Chris: How much money you getting tonight? Yeah I currently have like fourteen or something in the bank so. Yeah I'll check. Yeah.
Barbara: I'm not trying to be hard on you. [muffle] You read this [unintelligible] you sent out [unintelligible] his dad was not in the middle of something [unintelligible] ask him to [unintelligible] there's no hurry. Did you read this reservation, and see what you think of. I'm not trying to be harsh or anything.
Chris: Yeah it's not just the pain in my knee. I want to get my Sonichu copyright registered.
Barbara: I know, but-
Chris: 'Cause I can't currently enforce it, especially with the current situation.
Barbara: I don't think anybody- Christian, there will be people out there copying you, [unintelligible] you.
Chris: Yeah well I mean what if uh, this video game [unintelligible] though, is actually, is in reality a Sonichu game but I'm not getting the credit for it?
Barbara: [long pause] Sometimes you just like have to [muffle] let me tell you something. From my experience. I have worked for a lot of people in my life. In a lot of places, okay? And my role was [muffle] secretaries, administrative assistant, uh, whatever, I've worked for cops, companies, publishers, um, I've worked for oil companies, all kinds of department managers, et cetera. And I've worked in different types of business. [muffle] Which gave me [unintelligible] The way they operate with their manufacturer and sell or if they just [unintelligible] whether it's uh, an animate object or an inanimate object. So I've had quite a variety of experience of serving, OK. For the total benefit of the company, in all kinds of situations. So even when you want something it gives you a sense of humility if you put yourself in a humble role of serving. You're serving [unintelligible] issue. But it shows humility and caring that, y'know, this will help others, but you want to make money on it too. But there's a lot and you, you know what, you don't know all the stuff they do. I could, I tell you a lot of [unintelligible] here in a few minutes, but that's with a lot of years of my life. And each... section of your life that you go through is different. So every seven years your perspective has changed somewhat. 'Cause you've learned some other things. And you learn all you can, read all you can, talk to all the people you can, uhhh. Y'know you, you learn to uh, do small work at home, um medium, housework, outside work. It's just for your creative mind. And it makes things look nice. OK, and that helps you live the way you live. Like having the kitchen food. I'm sorry that I got sick and I've been sick for so long. Because I enjoy all the hard work you and I did bringing stuff in here. Especially the part in which movin' it over here and then putting it back together again. And who did we think about first? You and your father. First we moved your stuff and then we moved your dad's stuff. What you all use, you got that? And you all learned to keep everything to keep that you thought you might need or that you live with everyday until the last trip. And I'm here to tell you that I almost killed myself at least twice. I mean it was just a hairline... thing that kept me from killing myself after that. One was that big chair of dad's downstairs I, I took it, I took it apart, so it was in two pieces, and I fell with it, going down the back steps uh, over there. And then picking it up the hill on the wagon, aaand it, it fell off, it fell off the wagon twice. I fell down the steps with one part of it. And it was like, I don't know, four or five steps. That was the worst time. Scared me, fatigued me...But see, I allowed you to go to your ga-game. [unintelligible] dad took you on those [unintelligible]. Your father took you to that last park bench and I was there by myself, and I had all the stuff, of your father's and yours. And then mine came last. And that was one [unintelligible], day and night. And I was so fatigued and then I had to drive and drive and drive, to find gas 2 o'clock or 3 o'clock in the morning. Your father shoulda got it put in the truck.
Chris: [interrupts] Wait, wasn't I with you on that gas trip?
Barbara: Yeah, you were.
Chris: Yeah, I remember that.
Barbara: Yeah. And dad was in the car. Yeah, he was driving the car. And we had a hard time finding gas. Well, realistically, when he went back to get...Although we went to get the truck initially. Or when you went back to get the thing that you took up to the truck. Um, he should have remembered gas but they sold gas up at the corner place [unintelligible] the truck.
Chris: Yep.
Barbara: Then I had to drive all the way from over there to [unintelligible]. And I was so tired I'm surprised that I made it. That we made it. And the next day... I was... trying to get some rest and your father yelled at me to get out of bed and unload that truck! Cause we had to take the truck back. By such and such a time. He should have told me the day before that we would have to take the truck back. Overall, it woulda just been some extra rental that went over the deadline time.
Chris: Yeah. OK.
Barbara: I haven't had an opportunity since... we got the stuff here... aaand I've never had an opportunity to really do the things I wanted to do, OK. We've been back nine years. I still haven't done the things I wanted to do. [Chris tries to talk] Now wait a minute, I've tried to do what I can do for most I have [skip] every day. Because of my health and because of another thing, I only have two to four hours of energy at the most. [Chris says something] Now today I did one thing that totally put me down. That was I brought the new wagon. So we can [unintelligible] this out here and put it in the wagon in the trash cans and and take it up to be burned. And on top of that, another thing that up-upset me is that, just banging away with your father yelling at me, when I was asleep, to wake me up. Instead of coming in and being nice and being like "nah" he's like "unh". It's abusive. The way he screams at me. So I won't help ya. Well, when I tried to recharge that battery the last time I spent a long time out there.
Chris: Oh by the way uh-
Barbara: And! And he was determined- he didn't want to help me. OK? He wasn't interested. He is only interested in making things look like he did 'em. It was his idea and I really didn't have anything to do with it. Even when I help him. I get no credit for anything. He never gives me credit to my face. Or if he's talking to anybody else. Just like he tells you sometimes, “Well I don't get no help from your momma huuur.” No, it's his own attitude to, which is wrong, which is absolutely wrong.
Chris: I give you credit.
Barbara: I need you to start looking around and doing what you can do because there's a lot you could do. You are healthy and young. And you get so involved with these other things that you've been involved in. [Chris: "Yeah but-"] I've let you ride. I've let you ride. And now it's time that I'm going to crack down on you, and I'm going to demand that you help me everyday whether I ask you to, or not. I'm expecting you to help improve the indoors of the house and the at-
Chris: I don't know what er whya-why d-you want me to do!
Barbara: ANYTHING.
Chris: I don't even, I can't even ah-
Barbara: Come here and look. What is it that you can clean up, straighten up, in, in your room? There's a lot you could do.
Chris: OK well, when can we concentrate outside my room? Like uhyah, I know we can do the kitchen and the uh, the living room. But you know that's gonna be [unintelligible] that would require your direction on that, [unintelligible] thing.
Barbara: Downstairs right now there's vacuuming that needs to be done, there's carpet that needs to be cleaned and there are things to be...[Chris sighs] And there are looooot of things that gotta go upstairs, or go to Goodwill. [Chris sighs again]
Chris: Yeah most of 'em, yeah um yeah an-, most of 'em of, all mine [?] do have to go upstairs.
Barbara: And I bought two chests, there's one in the kitchen, there's one in that closet.
Chris: Yeah but-
Barbara: And those have tools-
Chris: Yeah but I mean where do you expect me to put, where do you expect me to put them in here, in my room?
Barbara: I didn't say put them in your room. There's a chest in that closet, there's a chest at the end of the kitchen. What- all you do is stack up stuff in the kitchen like you do in here and...We gotta, yeah neatly put things in the kitchen. But it takes two. And I have to feel like doing it. And I, I don't feel like-
Chris: B-b-buh-yut mum it's just a closet, I mean you put in the-er-whu- I already had a bunch of my stuff in there. I mean where am I gonna put that stuff downstairs? I don't know where else to put it. Especially that love doll.
Barbara: You can stick that in the utility room.
Chris: [sigh] Then it would, it- it gets hot, it gets hot in there and then it'll just... [sound of Chris hitting something]
Barbara: Right, we need...we need to clean the tiles of the shower.
Chris: Yeah.
Barbara: In the bathroom.
Chris: Yeah we've got a lot to do, I know but-
Barbara: And re-grouting, putting, the uh, removing the grout between the uh, tiles, and then re-grouting.
[unintelligible. Silence as Chris and Barb leave the room. Some mumbling. The conversation with Kacey resumes at 2:54]
Chris: Er sorry about that. Kacey, you still there?
Barbara: Yeah. [unclear]
Chris: Sure mom. [unclear] looking for you. [movement, sigh] Yeah I'm OK. Just talking to Kacey, what's up?
Barbara: Do you have your dollar(s)[unintelligible]?
Chris: Uh actually I think I put the rest that I had in my wallet in the bank before I came home but I'll see. Have enough to buy the sandwich. Oh uh I ah- I put five dollars in the bank.
Barbara: [That's too bad]?
Chris: Ahh, OK.
Barbara: Yeah, you saved five...[unintelligible] ...dollars paid.
Chris: How much money you getting tonight? Yeah I currently have like fourteen or something in the bank so. Yeah I'll check. Yeah.
Barbara: I'm not trying to be hard on you. [muffle] You read this [unintelligible] you sent out [unintelligible] his dad was not in the middle of something [unintelligible] ask him to [unintelligible] there's no hurry. Did you read this reservation, and see what you think of. I'm not trying to be harsh or anything.
Chris: Yeah it's not just the pain in my knee. I want to get my Sonichu copyright registered.
Barbara: I know, but-
Chris: 'Cause I can't currently enforce it, especially with the current situation.
Barbara: I don't think anybody- Christian, there will be people out there copying you, [unintelligible] you.
Chris: Yeah well I mean what if uh, this video game [unintelligible] though, is actually, is in reality a Sonichu game but I'm not getting the credit for it?
Barbara: [long pause] Sometimes you just like have to [muffle] let me tell you something. From my experience. I have worked for a lot of people in my life. In a lot of places, okay? And my role was [muffle] secretaries, administrative assistant, uh, whatever, I've worked for cops, companies, publishers, um, I've worked for oil companies, all kinds of department managers, et cetera. And I've worked in different types of business. [muffle] Which gave me [unintelligible] The way they operate with their manufacturer and sell or if they just [unintelligible] whether it's uh, an animate object or an inanimate object. So I've had quite a variety of experience of serving, OK. For the total benefit of the company, in all kinds of situations. So even when you want something it gives you a sense of humility if you put yourself in a humble role of serving. You're serving [unintelligible] issue. But it shows humility and caring that, y'know, this will help others, but you want to make money on it too. But there's a lot and you, you know what, you don't know all the stuff they do. I could, I tell you a lot of [unintelligible] here in a few minutes, but that's with a lot of years of my life. And each... section of your life that you go through is different. So every seven years your perspective has changed somewhat. 'Cause you've learned some other things. And you learn all you can, read all you can, talk to all the people you can, uhhh. Y'know you, you learn to uh, do small work at home, um medium, housework, outside work. It's just for your creative mind. And it makes things look nice. OK, and that helps you live the way you live. Like having the kitchen food. I'm sorry that I got sick and I've been sick for so long. Because I enjoy all the hard work you and I did bringing stuff in here. Especially the part in which movin' it over here and then putting it back together again. And who did we think about first? You and your father. First we moved your stuff and then we moved your dad's stuff. What you all use, you got that? And you all learned to keep everything to keep that you thought you might need or that you live with everyday until the last trip. And I'm here to tell you that I almost killed myself at least twice. I mean it was just a hairline... thing that kept me from killing myself after that. One was that big chair of dad's downstairs I, I took it, I took it apart, so it was in two pieces, and I fell with it, going down the back steps uh, over there. And then picking it up the hill on the wagon, aaand it, it fell off, it fell off the wagon twice. I fell down the steps with one part of it. And it was like, I don't know, four or five steps. That was the worst time. Scared me, fatigued me...But see, I allowed you to go to your ga-game. [unintelligible] dad took you on those [unintelligible]. Your father took you to that last park bench and I was there by myself, and I had all the stuff, of your father's and yours. And then mine came last. And that was one [unintelligible], day and night. And I was so fatigued and then I had to drive and drive and drive, to find gas 2 o'clock or 3 o'clock in the morning. Your father shoulda got it put in the truck.
Chris: [interrupts] Wait, wasn't I with you on that gas trip?
Barbara: Yeah, you were.
Chris: Yeah, I remember that.
Barbara: Yeah. And dad was in the car. Yeah, he was driving the car. And we had a hard time finding gas. Well, realistically, when he went back to get...Although we went to get the truck initially. Or when you went back to get the thing that you took up to the truck. Um, he should have remembered gas but they sold gas up at the corner place [unintelligible] the truck.
Chris: Yep.
Barbara: Then I had to drive all the way from over there to [unintelligible]. And I was so tired I'm surprised that I made it. That we made it. And the next day... I was... trying to get some rest and your father yelled at me to get out of bed and unload that truck! Cause we had to take the truck back. By such and such a time. He should have told me the day before that we would have to take the truck back. Overall, it woulda just been some extra rental that went over the deadline time.
Chris: Yeah. OK.
Barbara: I haven't had an opportunity since... we got the stuff here... aaand I've never had an opportunity to really do the things I wanted to do, OK. We've been back nine years. I still haven't done the things I wanted to do. [Chris tries to talk] Now wait a minute, I've tried to do what I can do for most I have [skip] every day. Because of my health and because of another thing, I only have two to four hours of energy at the most. [Chris says something] Now today I did one thing that totally put me down. That was I brought the new wagon. So we can [unintelligible] this out here and put it in the wagon in the trash cans and and take it up to be burned. And on top of that, another thing that up-upset me is that, just banging away with your father yelling at me, when I was asleep, to wake me up. Instead of coming in and being nice and being like "nah" he's like "unh". It's abusive. The way he screams at me. So I won't help ya. Well, when I tried to recharge that battery the last time I spent a long time out there.
Chris: Oh by the way uh-
Barbara: And! And he was determined- he didn't want to help me. OK? He wasn't interested. He is only interested in making things look like he did 'em. It was his idea and I really didn't have anything to do with it. Even when I help him. I get no credit for anything. He never gives me credit to my face. Or if he's talking to anybody else. Just like he tells you sometimes, “Well I don't get no help from your momma huuur.” No, it's his own attitude to, which is wrong, which is absolutely wrong.
Chris: I give you credit.
Barbara: I need you to start looking around and doing what you can do because there's a lot you could do. You are healthy and young. And you get so involved with these other things that you've been involved in. [Chris: "Yeah but-"] I've let you ride. I've let you ride. And now it's time that I'm going to crack down on you, and I'm going to demand that you help me everyday whether I ask you to, or not. I'm expecting you to help improve the indoors of the house and the at-
Chris: I don't know what er whya-why d-you want me to do!
Barbara: ANYTHING.
Chris: I don't even, I can't even ah-
Barbara: Come here and look. What is it that you can clean up, straighten up, in, in your room? There's a lot you could do.
Chris: OK well, when can we concentrate outside my room? Like uhyah, I know we can do the kitchen and the uh, the living room. But you know that's gonna be [unintelligible] that would require your direction on that, [unintelligible] thing.
Barbara: Downstairs right now there's vacuuming that needs to be done, there's carpet that needs to be cleaned and there are things to be...[Chris sighs] And there are looooot of things that gotta go upstairs, or go to Goodwill. [Chris sighs again]
Chris: Yeah most of 'em, yeah um yeah an-, most of 'em of, all mine [?] do have to go upstairs.
Barbara: And I bought two chests, there's one in the kitchen, there's one in that closet.
Chris: Yeah but-
Barbara: And those have tools-
Chris: Yeah but I mean where do you expect me to put, where do you expect me to put them in here, in my room?
Barbara: I didn't say put them in your room. There's a chest in that closet, there's a chest at the end of the kitchen. What- all you do is stack up stuff in the kitchen like you do in here and...We gotta, yeah neatly put things in the kitchen. But it takes two. And I have to feel like doing it. And I, I don't feel like-
Chris: B-b-buh-yut mum it's just a closet, I mean you put in the-er-whu- I already had a bunch of my stuff in there. I mean where am I gonna put that stuff downstairs? I don't know where else to put it. Especially that love doll.
Barbara: You can stick that in the utility room.
Chris: [sigh] Then it would, it- it gets hot, it gets hot in there and then it'll just... [sound of Chris hitting something]
Barbara: Right, we need...we need to clean the tiles of the shower.
Chris: Yeah.
Barbara: In the bathroom.
Chris: Yeah we've got a lot to do, I know but-
Barbara: And re-grouting, putting, the uh, removing the grout between the uh, tiles, and then re-grouting.
[unintelligible. Silence as Chris and Barb leave the room. Some mumbling. The conversation with Kacey resumes at 2:54]
Chris: Er sorry about that. Kacey, you still there?
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Rocky (to Chris):
"Let me tell you something you already know. The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. It's a very mean and nasty place and I don't care how tough you are it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. You, me, or nobody is gonna hit as hard as life. But it ain't about how hard you hit. It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward. How much you can take and keep moving forward. That's how winning is done! Now if you know what you're worth then go out and get what you're worth. But ya gotta be willing to take the hits, and not pointing fingers saying you ain't where you wanna be because of him, or her, or anybody! Cowards do that and that ain't you! You're better than that! I'm always gonna love you no matter what. No matter what happens. You're the best thing in my life. But until you start believing in yourself, ya ain't gonna have a life."
Chris:
Cupcakes55
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His dad said he wasn't any good with money and had to monitor his transactions manually. Does he have dyscalculia? He's pretty lazy too. Example, Chris doesn't want to clean the shower tiles even though he's half way through cleaning it. He can do it, finish it, but he didn't. I'm not sure Chris is capable of being independent. Do you think he can pull through?
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Bob had to intervene before, but he didn't monitor Chris' finances as a general practice. On top of that, Chris' life was very different when Bob was alive.
The main way money would be an issue with Chris' post-Barb life is if he simply cannot afford to survive, period.
Like, if Chris literally could not afford rent+food, then he'd be in trouble.
But simple responsibility wouldn't be an issue.
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Like me?
There's this weird sort of misunderstanding of my place in the Chris trolling scene.
This is the sequence of events, as I see it:
- People see I have a lot of info.
- A portion of those people come up with trolling plans. They bring those trolling plans to me for advice.
- I give them advice, and as the plans develop, they share their progress with me.
- I'm very entertained by the progress I hear. So I filter out identifying details and then pass that information onto kiwifarms.
- People see that I have a lot of info.
- Repeat.
There's a little more to it than that. Like if I really wanted to talk to Chris about something, I could probably arrange it. But in general, I don't. Chris is boring and fat.
I'm not his babysitter.
And of former Chris trolls, I'm the most "involved" nowadays. (If only because I'm still on kiwifarms and thus pretty accessible.)
The people most likely to help him are Rocky, Anna, his therapists, maybe some gay people. I don't know.
The most an internet person will do to help stave off Chris' potential homelessness is to link him to craigslist and say "lol, find an apartment".
RagtimeRoastBeefy
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Obvious answer:lifetime supply of sexy old lady clothes and bras for those swinging d cups
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That barb conversation where she pleads with him to help out is the one thing I've ever seen that made me feel sympathy for her. When he says he doesn't know what to do and she gets exasperated and bellows "ANYTHING", that tells me they had had that conversation multiple times already and Chris was practicing his selective listening/ignorance shtick to avoid work, the same as he does when sweethearts very clearly explained the value of getting a job.
And yeah, I'm not his babysitter either. I think it's touching when his house catches fire and this forum organizes a thousand dollar relief donation. But I didn't contribute to it, and I won't contribute the next time he has some calamity. Despite my lengthy history with all this, I have no particular interest in seeing Chris maintain his childish security. He'll find a way to live, and I'll be curious to watch it. I've got enough people in my life who have trouble who I actually care about though.
There have been a couple trolls here and there who wanted to help Chris. They usually get scared off when he does things like, say, slice his taint open. People quickly realize he's a powderkeg and back away.
And yeah, I'm not his babysitter either. I think it's touching when his house catches fire and this forum organizes a thousand dollar relief donation. But I didn't contribute to it, and I won't contribute the next time he has some calamity. Despite my lengthy history with all this, I have no particular interest in seeing Chris maintain his childish security. He'll find a way to live, and I'll be curious to watch it. I've got enough people in my life who have trouble who I actually care about though.
Cupcakes55
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I see. However did he get in trouble after he stole Barb's credit card for PSN purchases? Or did they just give him a pass? His parents should give him an allowance rather than exploit his monthly tugboat.
Pinkamena Diane Pie
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Right now Barb is in no position to do something like that. She needs an allowance for herself at the moment. Hoard costs money after all
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I'm sure he got grilled for that.
I don't think I follow.
Are you saying "Chris should be given a limited allowance, rather than he just be given access to his full check"? Or are you actually saying that Barb is doing the exploitation?
LoveYouLongTime
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I do think Chris will be able to pay the mortgage ONLY BECAUSE he gets his monthly tugboat on the first and mortgage is due on the first of the month. At least for a while until something he wants takes priority. Chris knows how to pay bills, it's if he considers them important over his toys that is key. Now say, if electricity is due on the 15th he might end up not being able to pay because Chris doesn't have any foresight to make sure he doesn't blow his entire monthly within the first few days. I also wonder if Chris' monthly is enough for all his bills: mortgage, internet/cable, cell phone, electricity, trash, water/sewer(if they're not on well). Not to mention food and gas. He probably has subs like Hulu and Netflix.
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I think if he ever had to do without electricity or his toys for a few days he'd learn never to fuck up that particular bill again, but I could see him putting off property taxes or other shit until he gets in over his head. Or shit like the water or garbage bill and then the house slowly fills with hoard as he graduates into being full Barb.
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Yeah, I don't think Chris would fail to pay electricity, internet and rent (or mortgage). Chris is definitely pretty talented at bullshitting himself, but even he knows he can't magic electricity/a residence out of his butt.
Chris is probably pretty solid at paying monthly bills. Annual or semi-annual bills would probably test the limits of his ability to remember though.
LoveYouLongTime
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I imagine garbage bill will be the first to stop getting paid. Bob used to burn trash (paper) but knowing Chris he'd be stupid enough to burn things you shouldn't. Actually, Chris is such a shit he would start tossing his garbage in other people's bins then act indignant when he gets told not to.
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He already uses restaurant dumpsters sometimes.
Pinkamena Diane Pie
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Isn't that illegal? I mean, Chris isn't exactly skilled enough to conceal even something small like a figurine to steal. Wouldn't think he could dump trash into a private dumpster without getting caught.