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After Barb dies, Chris will trade the house for some gypsy love charms made from Miller High Life bottle caps.
Containment What will happen when Barb dies?
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Like you note, getting someone declared legally incompetent requires a trial. Another thing to keep in mind is that these proceedings don't usually start up on their own.
Someone would need to pester the state to look into it and push it along. That someone is usually a concerned friend or family member. Chris doesn't have that. He doesn't even have a neighborhood busybody. (Or I don't know, maybe the snake charmer guy might see an opportunity to get Chris put away for good?) In the end, it'll depend on what Rocky (or whatever therapists Chris is still in contact with) does.
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I would say that the most likely thing to spark off those sorts of proceedings, if they're ever to start at all, is Chris getting himself in trouble again. The actual arrest-and-jail kind of trouble. If we take his account of what happened when they put him in a cell over the Michael Snyder assault incident as true, he freaked out pretty badly... he had Barb to explain and vouch for him then and handle things, she could basically speak some sort of sense to the cops when he couldn't. Without someone there to explain why he was acting like that, Chris would definitely come off as a lot less functional than he is, and could easily wind up in a psych ward... which would probably further traumatize him and either make his behavior worse or cause him to just shut down.
Chris in his normal state can fairly easily get by... he acts like a complete kook but people in public service see that every day. Chris in a (I hesitate to use the word but it's kind of accurate) triggered state comes off as legitimately insane. His bouts of that probably don't normally last very long because he's able to return to all his little creature comforts and calm himself down, but deprived of that? Yeah I can see them deciding he's nonfunctional, especially once they start putting together the pieces (filthy house, family all dead, bad health, history of legal problems).
He gets a good public defender who's invested in his welfare, he could possibly get some in-home help, which would probably be the best thing for him. (Basically someone funded by the city willing to do a little cleaning and laundry, and to check on him to make sure he's remembering to eat and change clothes occasionally.) He gets somebody just desperate to shuffle the latest file off their desk and get it gone, he gets convinced to plead "no contest" or something and winds up in some sort of home, or worse, institution.
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At least for when there's actually a legal issue sufficient to justify intervening against the person's will.
In this case, I wouldn't be surprised if weens have annoyed them already.
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I'm most worried about his finances. Even at the best of times he has a nonexistent understanding of money and the impulse control of a hungry dachshund. The multitude of stresses involved in losing his mother and being left alone in the house could easily lead to a full meltdown either through him ignoring his obligations or trying to fill the void by buying games and crap. People from his church or whatever could look in and see to it he could handle the bare everyday necessities but they couldn't help with the money situation unless he would ask for help, which would most likely be around the time the bank took the car.
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Chris isn't that bad with money. Lurk moar, and realise the CWCki is primarily entertainment, with facts a distant second.
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I disagree to an extent. While it's true that opinions are very frequently strewn into the articles on the CWCki, for the most part I don't think that things presented as facts on there are made up. Most of the actual information on there is pretty accurate and you can even fact check most things yourself by simply watching or reading Chris's various videos and posts.
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I agree that it isn't hard for most people to sift facts from fluff. On the other hand, there are certain things that have been debunked over and over again by people close to the original trolling (Tomgirl is an elaborate act to creep on women, Chris is a window-licking sped who can't handle basic tasks, Chris deliberately hit Snyder with the car at speed) which members of each new wave of users take up and repeat ad nauseum. If they're not getting this from a misreading of the CWCki, then where is it coming from?
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Fair point. There is no denying that the CWCki is the place where most new people get their information on Chris. However, I'm still not entirely convinced that it's the sole source of confusion. The main problem, in my opinion, is that people like to assume a ton about Chris from the information they do read without fully grasping what they're being told. A good example is the assumption that because Chris has demonstrated time and time again that he would prefer everything is handed to him on a silver platter, he is entirely helpless and could never live on his own. In reality, that's not wholly true. He's capable of such a task, but he simply doesn't have any interest in doing so as long as there's a lazier option.
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I realize Chris is a tard, but surely he isn't as fucking stupid as some make him out to be. Paying bills isn't exactly rocket science. I mean, you can have it set up to where the money automatically comes out of your account. It's not like he would actually have to physically go and give people money.
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When Barb dies, future weens will start to joke about digging up Barbie.
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I understand that handling his basic finances day to day isn't beyond Chris's intellectual capabilities. But as I've understood it, he has trouble with long term planning (e.g. the setup of his payments for the car) and prioritizing (e.g. Legos vs. dental care). And emotionally, he doesn't handle stress well and tries to make himself feel better by buying more toys. When Barb dies, I can see the emotional impact leading to a scenario where those two things lead to him overspending in the mediun-to-long term and ignoring the situation for too long.
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Given Chris's reactions to death have been vastly mixed, I can only speculate as to what his reaction would really be. However, I'm pretty certain that if Nintendo is still pumping out Amiibos by then, He'll continue to modify them, until the entire house is full of used Amiibo boxes and Pikachu Amiibos with no ears and tails.
At the base level, Chris is competent. He won't wither away and die. He'll probably just get immensely fat.
At the base level, Chris is competent. He won't wither away and die. He'll probably just get immensely fat.
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Long term? Aren't car payments monthly?
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When Barb dies Chris will be devastated. He's gonna panic and call 911. He's gonna cry for help towards every direction he can until an adult comes and helps him. He's not gonna just deal with this on his own.
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Chris is established to have impulse control problems. Day to day, yeah, he probably knows he can't spend all the money he's got on a new game console because he understands he has to pay for lunch and dinner, and probably the stuff that needs paying for tomorrow, even in the coming week. But a payment that comes once a month? It's a lot easier for people who aren't good at thinking outside themselves to say "Oh, well, that's a few weeks away, I'll manage to get the money back in the bank by then, but I need these DVDs right now." The payment later that month becomes a problem for later that month. (Or later the next month, if they get into the "Psh, they won't do anything if I'm just a month behind" mindset.)
Now, if Barb has managed to badger Chris into taking care of making payments on their utilities, then he might have learned better. Time will tell.
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No, Chris knows he has to have his tugboat last the month. He makes purchases with that in mind. He pays his bills. And this is something he does now. That's not a hypothetical.
When people say Chris is better at finances than the cwcki portrays him as, they're not making it up.
Edit: Well, and to clarify: people will say "Chris is irresponsible, he'll blow his money in five minutes". And when people respond "he's not as bad with money as the cwcki portrays him," it's implied that that's followed up with "so he's not going to lose his tugboat in five minutes"
But on top of that, I want to emphasize that he doesn't even blow his tugboat in five minutes now. It doesn't require Barb to pester him either. Each month, Chris budgets with his money informally. He's been dealing with the tugboat for like 8 years now. Chris knows that the tugboat isn't infinite, and Chris knows how long a month lasts.
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OK, you are the noted authority on this so as a newb I'd really appreciate if you could clarify to me, have I just been completely duped about how much he spends on games and toys and stuff?
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I think what is going to fuck him is when he has a expense he hasn't planned for, maybe the car has serious problems, the house has a massive water leak etc, day to day he is fine and will probably better off in planning once Barbs not helping herself as you have indicated in the past, but it's the great big fat expense he hasn't ever planned for that's going to cock him up.
He spends far to much on toys and games and given the chance he would spend more for the fleeting satisfaction he'd get from it, but at the moment he's the main source of income in the house and pay's the majority of the essential bill's, but he seem's to budget it better than most people give him credit for, he knows that he can't buy that $500 lego set because he can't afford to but he also won't save for it either.
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Pretty much. Chris's only big expense is that he likes to splurge on expensive lego sets and other toys. It's certainly not wise spending, he probably has more toys than a wealthy family with 3 kids aged 4-10. Which is certainly embarrassing for a 33 year old man, but whatever.
Other than that Chris is quite remarkably thrifty. He understands how to be poor, buy the cheapest product that is functional, every time. He's not buying nice clothes, hes not buying expensive organic food, he's not drinking craft beer, he doesn't have expensive hobbies. Other than the toys his lifestyle is pretty shoestring budget.
No he does waste a lot of money on that stuff. The thing is he doesn't spend any on clothes or any other lifestyle needs. He doesn't eat a nice restaurants, he doesn't shop at whole foods, he doesn't spend money on anything other than those toys.
Is that still bad budgeting when you could either save that money or spend it more wisely to improve your lifestyle? Up to you, but Chris makes things work so he can waste his money on toys.