Containment What will happen when Barb dies?

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Barb will never die but instead will achieve perfection when she is assimilated by the Hoard.

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Chris will then consult with the Hoard during future crises.
 
Crikey said:
He might be able to call an auction firm and they will come in and take the things worth selling, depends on what the hoard looks like. If it's just a pile they're probably not too happy digging through it. Or, if he doesn't care about the money, he could call some thrift store that comes and take basically everything but straight up trash. He might end up with just some garbage bags worth of trash that he need to clean up himself.
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What.....we're not letting the Fire Department have first crack at it?
 
timtommy said:
Fair enough point about his other siblings. But in my opinion, one or more of the three is obliged to do something.
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No. Just ... no. People aren't obligated to help out friends and family; they do it because of their close relationship and because they care about the other person.

And, even though they may have blood in common, Chris's siblings sure haven't demonstrated any sort of closeness or caring for him. Instead, all three of them seem to have made an effort to distance themselves from Bob, Barb, CWC, and all of the goings-on at 14 BLC. Cole hated Bob, has no contact with Barb, and has publicly asked people not to talk to him about CWC. We know very little about Carol, and CWC wasn't even aware that David had a daughter until she was eight years old.

What part of this shows the signs of a strong enough relationship that would encourage any of them to help CWC out of kindness, to say nothing of an obligation to do so?
 
Konstantinos said:
With or without Barb, Chris' finances are already fucked. He's taken out loans he can't repay, he's up to his neck in credit card debt and he keeps blowing all his money on shit he doesn't need. I don't know if the money he gets from panhandling over the internet will sustain him. I don't doubt his capacity to live on his own without :snorlax: bringing him down, but he still has some serious fiscal issues to own up to.
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Hmm? When Chris spends money, it's after he's met his obligations. He pays his minimums. He's fine. The only things I'm worried about, considering Chris' finances, are the loans Barb took out in his name.
Muscle Bra said:
No. Just ... no. People aren't obligated to help out friends and family; they do it because of their close relationship and because they care about the other person.
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Yeah, in times of hardship, I think a lot of people would say you have an obvious obligation to your family.
 
Won't matter, Chris will be in prison forever in a couple days.... probably be put on deathrow and then some type of televised execution.
 
Marvin said:
Hmm? When Chris spends money, it's after he's met his obligations. He pays his minimums. He's fine. The only things I'm worried about, considering Chris' finances, are the loans Barb took out in his name..
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Any idea of the scale of his debts right now? CWCwiki has his credit card debt sitting at around $7500 back in 2014. Assuming that number was accurate, then I doubt it's shrunk much. That's going to be upwards of $200 per month on minimum payments, and then there's the car loan. Any details please on these loans that Barb took out in his name? Also any idea how much per month he's spending on servicing the debt he has? I'm just amazed he's still afloat. It's like watching a man dancing on a broken leg.
 
PantsOfDesire said:
Any idea of the scale of his debts right now? CWCwiki has his credit card debt sitting at around $7500 back in 2014. Assuming that number was accurate, then I doubt it's shrunk much. That's going to be upwards of $200 per month on minimum payments, and then there's the car loan. Any details please on these loans that Barb took out in his name? Also any idea how much per month he's spending on servicing the debt he has? I'm just amazed he's still afloat. It's like watching a man dancing on a broken leg.
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I don't have any specifics to talk about. The big picture ideas are: Chris and Barb live very comfortably, money-wise. Anything they want, they get. Barb especially. If they start to have trouble, Barb will push her financial discomfort down onto Chris, who will then complain about it online. We'll hear about it. (Like with Barb's rotting craw.)

Barb has a low tolerance for discomfort, so when Chris bitches about needing money, he genuinely thinks they're desperately poor largely because Barb tells him they're poor and starving.

There's another possibility that I'm thinking about, and that Charb's situation is actually super bad, and Barb's just disguising / not bothering to level with Chris about it. Because she'll be dead and doesn't give a shit.

I don't think that's very likely, but it's at least something to consider.

As far as loans in Chris' name, the big one I can think of is the financing for that car. I don't think Barb's actively trying to ruin Chris, it's just that she needs money and, well, shit, Chris ain't going anywhere. So why not?

A big help in favor of their situation is that I don't think Barb is actively hoarding that much anymore. I think she sticks to the house and babysits the dogs. Chris' spending has been decent recently, mostly because he's just tipping drag queens instead of pissing his money away on legos. Well, and plus he's been profiting slightly off of amiibos.
 
Scenario 1: He'll have enough money to survive. He'll be alone. The dogs will die, the cat will die, he'll lust for things he cannot have (the past), he'll hope for things he won't get, he'll withdraw deeper into his delusions as both troll and observer alike get caught up in their own lives, and he'll just be another solitary hick living just above poverty level.

Scenario 2: With Barb gone, he is forced to grow up. Perhaps he will go out more frequently, make a few misfit friends, maybe have sex more frequently (with hired help.) He'll be unhappy because it will never be what he dreamed of, but he won't be as miserable as he is now.

Scenario 3: Autistic Apocalypse Now. Unrestrained, he goes on a crime spree which finally lands him in prison, a mental home, or dead.
 
General Juicer said:
Oh? I know that what we Internet people see is different from what folks on the ground see, but I can't think of any particular reason why a random family member not aware of his Internet reputation would choose to stay estranged from Chris other than 'he's autistic and far away from everyone'.
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He's obviously looking for handouts/a caretaker whenever he comes sniffing around, at least from their perspective. We had a few like that in my extended family too, we avoided them like the plague.
 
Marvin said:
I don't have any specifics to talk about. The big picture ideas are: Chris and Barb live very comfortably, money-wise. Anything they want, they get. Barb especially. If they start to have trouble, Barb will push her financial discomfort down onto Chris, who will then complain about it online. We'll hear about it. (Like with Barb's rotting craw.)

Barb has a low tolerance for discomfort, so when Chris bitches about needing money, he genuinely thinks they're desperately poor largely because Barb tells him they're poor and starving.

There's another possibility that I'm thinking about, and that Charb's situation is actually super bad, and Barb's just disguising / not bothering to level with Chris about it. Because she'll be dead and doesn't give a shit.
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Unless it's secured debt or they've been skipping the mortgage or refinanced the house somehow, I think there's probably enough equity in it, perhaps subject to the homestead exemption, that even after liquidating the estate and selling the house (if that is even necessary), Chris would get enough to move somewhere else.

Assuming the matter is handled reasonably well, which might take a bankruptcy lawyer and/or an estate lawyer. I doubt the estate is that complicated, and if Barb has to take out loans in Chris's name, there's no way that debt is anything other than unsecured consumer debt.

So basically, the likely scenario is the estate is liquidated, legal fees taken out, Chris gets some chunk of money to move somewhere else (or gets to stay in the house), the consumer debt gets discharged in bankruptcy and those guys take a bath (after collecting shit-tons of interest from the poor guy for literally years), and the tugboat goes merrily on for the rest of Chris's life.
 
timtommy said:
When Barb dies, Cole becomes Chris' closest living relative. And Chris is a guy with significant issues who has never taken care of himself. I think that gives Cole some degree of responsibility to make sure Chris is ok.
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I disagree with this. Blood alone shouldn't chain Chris to Cole. He got out of there about the same time Chris was born and willingly abandoned the whole family. Cole made his intentions clear three decades ago, it's not his fault no one actually responsible took steps to protect Chris's future. It's been over a decade since I left the shitty side of my family, I won't be accepting if someone comes along and says "hey alec, your abusive aunt marvine who you meet half a dozen times ever needs your help because she treated her children terribly and they all turned their backs on her and none of us planned ahead, please put your life on hold for the next year and take care of her needs".
 
The Knife's Husbando said:
That depends. What kind of coin did your brother give you? Personally, I tend to pay people the same way they pay me.
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Ah but that's the rub!

What do you owe to your fellow man just because they are your fellow man?

Shits been talked about since Old Testament times; Cain vs Able.

Don't know if anyone got a real answer yet...
 
Is this a person a good-hearted person that helps and cares for others? Okay, good. I'll help him.
Is this person a selfish dick that's just in it for himself? Okay, fuck him.

It isn't that complicated.
 
General Juicer said:
Oh? I know that what we Internet people see is different from what folks on the ground see, but I can't think of any particular reason why a random family member not aware of his Internet reputation would choose to stay estranged from Chris other than 'he's autistic and far away from everyone'.
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People who are the aggrieved party when someone becomes estranged from a greater family structure tend to remind everyone "we don't talk to Barb or her family and this is why."
 
I assume they'll both go down at the same time when the hoard inevitably catches fire again.

Realistically? Chris shits his pants, does nothing, the house falls into further disrepair, Chris misses tax and utility payments enough that services are disconnected, he begs for money online, he spends any money he receives on Lego, the house is repossessed by the government or bank, razed because of the hoard and filth that has festered, and Chris becomes another mentally ill homeless person.

Reality isn't kind.
 
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