🐱 What Everyone Gets Wrong About Manhood and Masculinity

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The poet Robert Bly — who died on Nov. 21, at the age of 94 — was best-known for his controversial work of archetypal psychology, Iron John: A Book About Men.

In the 1990s, Americans weren’t nearly as polarized on gender as we are now; Bly’s work had broad crossover appeal. It spent 62 weeks on the bestseller list. I can still remember my father passing a worn hardcover edition to my older brother. The book became a cultural phenomenon, launching a “mythopoetic men’s movement.”

Bly and his colleagues were advocating for a men’s movement that would complement, not oppose, second wave feminism. Nonetheless, he was widely criticized by folks who recognized the movement’s latent misogyny. They were correct. A good argument can be made that Bly’s work laid the foundation for incels, the manosphere, and Jordan Peterson’s 12 Rules for Life.

According to the New York Times obituary, Bly’s work “drew on myths, legends, poetry and science of a sort to make the case that American men had grown soft and feminized and needed to rediscover their primitive virtues of ferocity and audacity and thus regain the self-confidence to be nurturing fathers and mentors.” Hence, nobody who is well acquainted with Iron John should’ve been surprised last month when Sen. Josh Hawley complained at about “the deconstruction of American men” and called for “a revival of strong and healthy manhood” at the National Conservatism Conference in Orlando. This perspective is part of long tradition: men whining about how emasculated they feel while living a culture that’s progressing — at an appallingly sluggish pace — toward gender parity.

Nobody who is well acquainted with IRON JOHN should’ve been surprised last month when Sen. Josh Hawley complained at about “the deconstruction of American men.”
Hawley doubled-down on his politically-divisive iteration of Bly’s original message in a follow-up interview with Axios on HBO. He complained that “the Left” devalues masculinity and drives young men to withdraw “into the enclave of idleness and porn and video games.” Folks on Twitter were outraged. Writers on Substack went ballistic. But I suspect most people’s consternation had more to do with residual ire about Hawley’s January 6 fist pump than his actual comments. After all, while his take on manhood is undoubtedly misguided, it’s not uniquely contemporary, or even partisan.

When it comes to stereotypical rhetoric about men and women, progressives and conservatives are more alike than dissimilar. Folks on both sides of political spectrum struggle to think beyond familiar conceptions of gender. When confronted with troublesome trends, like the decline in men’s college enrollment and completion, and a rising suicide rateamong middle age white men, both gravitate toward pop-psychology and pseudoscience for answers. Most pundits conclude that feelings of inferiority have made today’s men more apathetic and rageful than ever before. Liberals blame it on economic disenfranchisement and changing socio-cultural norms. Conservatives blame it on elite liberal academic jargon and fragile millennials.

When it comes to stereotypical rhetoric about men and women, progressives and conservatives are more alike than dissimilar. Folks on both sides of political spectrum struggle to think beyond familiar conceptions of gender.
Either way, the explanations are ineffectual. They’re the equivalent of an over-protective mom assuring her son that the other kids only tease him because they’re jealous. This is the real “coddling” that should worry everyone. Again and again, we frame problematic trends in masculinity as understandable recompense. These are feeble attempts to shield boys and men from discomfort, by validating and reinforcing male entitlement. It doesn’t help. What boys and men really need is not more excuses and scapegoating, but rather honest and meaningful support as they confront the inevitable disruption of the patriarchal status quo.

The truth is most boys and men are just as unprepared for the 2020s as Robert Bly’s contemporaries were for the 1990s. They don’t have the vocabulary, social-emotional acumen, or cognitive tools necessary to adequately confront feminist movement. They don’t know how to imagine themselves without the privileges and entitlements of patriarchy. And as a result, some men have become reactionary. They blame women, mothers, and the “identity politics” of elite liberal college professors like me. They fight political battles against women’s reproductive rights because they unconsciously mistake non-cisgender-male bodies as a threat. Of course, the only real threat is a lack of meaningful symbolic grounding, a dearth of aspirational imagery that has been adequately updated to align with the current cultural ethos.

This becomes clear when you consider what Sen. Hawley gets right. For instance, it’s true that video games are often a place where kids go to find refuge. But it’s not to escape so-called woke ideology. Instead, it’s where they find alternatives to the locker room bullying and status-jockeying that typically characterizes male comradery. Contrary to the mainstream anti-screen time rhetoric, studies have consistently debunked the notion that digital media has an adverse effect on teen mental health; most dependable research indicates the opposite; many teens turn online when looking for supportive outlets for dealing with emotional tension. They not only find like-minded communities on social media and multiplayer games, but also alternative hierarchies that tend to be based more on digital and/or in-game merit than stereotypical identity signifiers. In other words, gamers have their own pecking order that’s not necessarily akin to what Television’s mean-girl and jock-bully teen soap-operas have conditioned us to expect. Still, different is not necessarily better. Video games are often just another arena in which teen boys act out the ritual violence and competition that has long been at the core of ordinary American manhood.

Porn helps boys compensate for the feelings of inferiority which are a well-documented and endemic characteristic of “precarious manhood.”
Sen. Hawley may also be correct that teen boys are watching porn to deal with feelings of insecurity and marginalization. But it’s absurd to say that it’s because they feel like masculinity has been devalued. More likely, the opposite is true. Porn thrives because boys have been socialized — under patriarchy — to equate misogynist sexual domination with status and power. It’s a way to make themselves feel more assertive. They turn to fantasy to act out a more individualistic identity; it’s playing make-believe to fortify a sense of self. Porn helps boys compensate for the feelings of inferiority which are a well-documented and endemic characteristic of “precarious manhood.” That’s the term experts use to describe how men constantly need to prove their masculine status. As Liz Plank writes in her book, For the Love of Men: A New Vision of Mindful Masculinity, “Masculinity is procured through ritualized and often-public social behaviors.” And one defining characteristic of American manhood is that, for individuals, it’s always threatened.

The use of both porn and video games has nothing to do with the proliferation of progressive gender theory or the supposed devaluation of masculinity. Instead, these are well-worn instruments of patriarchal socialization. Just like the old Iron John concern that manhood has lost its mojo, commodified sex and brutal competition are not new. They are products created by and for a culture that values — rather than devalues — patriarchal manhood. These are not the symptoms of masculine decline, but rather indications that American manhood remains entrenched.
 
A good argument can be made that Bly’s work laid the foundation for incels, the manosphere, and Jordan Peterson’s 12 Rules for Life.
Dear Lord no! Not Peterson's book about how to live a good life! What a monster!

According to the New York Times obituary, Bly’s work “drew on myths, legends, poetry and science of a sort to make the case that American men had grown soft and feminized and needed to rediscover their primitive virtues of ferocity and audacity and thus regain the self-confidence to be nurturing fathers and mentors.”
Men neesd to step up and be reliable and responsible for themselves and their communities. Fucking disgusting.
 
My eyes instantly glazed over at the mention of Jordan Peterson.
I assumed this article was written by a woman. Turns out it was written by a man...

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...who may as well be a woman talking about masculinity at all.
 
Another episode of "Men are only struggling because they're racist sexist fascist poopyhead meanies, so we should vilify and emasculate them further".
 
Porn thrives because boys have been socialized — under patriarchy — to equate misogynist sexual domination with status and power. It’s a way to make themselves feel more assertive. They turn to fantasy to act out a more individualistic identity; it’s playing make-believe to fortify a sense of self. Porn helps boys compensate for the feelings of inferiority which are a well-documented and endemic characteristic of “precarious manhood.” That’s the term experts use to describe how men constantly need to prove their masculine status.
These sorts of straw men only prove that the jew who wrote this article projects his own perversions to all men, and is deeply insecure about his own masculinity.
 
I know, I know, but...

(((Shapiro)))

This guy faggot never got a serious schoolyard beating, which is a fucking tragedy. Then again, he probably attended a private school like the rest of these "progressive" bozos.
 
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honest and meaningful support as they confront the inevitable disruption of the patriarchal status quo.
Yes, become the new status quo. The healthy masculinity is passive men who need support groups to reassure themselves that their passivity is virtue. To not do so is weakness.

They don’t have the vocabulary, social-emotional acumen, or cognitive tools necessary to adequately confront feminist movement.
This is 100% true, but not in the way she thinks.

elite liberal college professors like me.
Boom baby there it is!

edit: Lol Jordan Shapiro! THERE it really is.
I totally thought that the author was a she because he talks about his father passing down that book to his brother. Just to armchair Freud this fuck, I'm assuming that dad always showed more affection to the more traditionally masculine first son. When people started talking to him about Jordan Peterson and the problem of single parents he just snapped.
 
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For instance, it’s true that video games are often a place where kids go to find refuge. But it’s not to escape so-called woke ideology. Instead, it’s where they find alternatives to the locker room bullying and status-jockeying that typically characterizes male comradery.
This person has literally never played an online game. Even in raid groups, outside of groups specifically to teach and help, there’s bullying and status-jockeying. Competitive games are literally status/jockeying. Hence the scoreboard.

alternative hierarchies that tend to be based more on digital and/or in-game merit than stereotypical identity signifiers. In other words, gamers have their own pecking order that’s not necessarily akin to what Television’s mean-girl and jock-bully teen soap-operas have conditioned us to expect.
That’s because it’s already a self-selecting group that allows one to express their identity only by the signifiers that matter to the game, and there’s usually not sex involved. If everyone played multiplayer games, similar heirarchies to the real world would quickly develop. They’d just be more weighted to people who had skills. Kind of like a job.
 
This person has literally never played an online game. Even in raid groups, outside of groups specifically to teach and help, there’s bullying and status-jockeying. Competitive games are literally status/jockeying. Hence the scoreboard.

Bullying, hazing, and status-jockeying go back as far as recorded history goes. Bronze-age militias in Greece did the same thing. It builds camaraderie and unit cohesion, and enables large groups of men to accomplish common tasks.
 
Bullying, hazing, and status-jockeying go back as far as recorded history goes. Bronze-age militias in Greece did the same thing. It builds camaraderie and unit cohesion, and enables large groups of men to accomplish common tasks.
Which is why we're bound to get our bums deflowered if/when we go to war with China or Russia. The Brass is too busy trying to solve climate change and thr Mystery of White Rage.
 
When it comes to stereotypical rhetoric about men and women, progressives and conservatives are more alike than dissimilar. Folks on both sides of political spectrum struggle to think beyond familiar conceptions of gender.
Doesn't take a Sherlock to notice that,
 
His "partner" looks like the A. Wyatt Mann cartoon of the female jew:
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Here's a cringe piece where he pretends to interview her about gender roles like they're total strangers.
In raising my 8-year-old daughter, I encounter firsthand these social norms, and how they shape her ideas about what she’s able to achieve. She’s a Barbie-loving, skirt-twirling girl. And I worry about the power social influence has on what’s deemed “normal” for her to feel and think.
Ruh roh...
 
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